Bub


No sir. That's exactly what my Properties screen looks like.

I was just yankin yer chain.


However, how can your total rountrip samples be more than double mine but have less rountrip msec? That just does not make mathematical sense, unless I'm not understanding the relationship between the two.

Jonbouy

Bub


No sir. That's exactly what my Properties screen looks like.

Bub you will need to do an actual physical round trip latency check to get the real figures because it looks like some figures are not being reported to Sonar from the driver there.
 
Here's a simple way to get a fairly accurate figure. 
 
http://centrance.com/downloads/ltu/
 
Once you get the real figure you can add the extra to Sonar's ASIO reported latency and you'll get improved timing between different types of input into your DAW.
 
 

bapu

Bub


No sir. That's exactly what my Properties screen looks like.

I was just yankin yer chain.


However, how can your total rountrip samples be more than double mine but have less rountrip msec? That just does not make mathematical sense, unless I'm not understanding the relationship between the two.

Aha, now I see Jonbouy has a logical explanation.

Bub

By the way ...... I just noticed something ........ Apparently my middle Dim Solo setting is measured in DE's, whatever the heck that is. LOL!

Screen resolution? Zoom?

Danny Danzi

 
I can actually get down to 32 with that box, but there is no need as I notice no difference using 64 samples.


-Danny

This is the key factor for most of us, that getting down to that 'it makes no difference' low level is low enough. 
 
The big issue then becomes one of scalability once the round trip latency is low enough not to interfere with any tracking you might want to undertake through the app.
 
Scalability in this instance meaning how complex a project you can run without having to increase the buffer size so that you don't end up having to switch between settings when you are performing different tasks.
 
It's one thing getting world beating low latency scores for competitions sake but it's far more convenient if you can find a spot that allows for trouble free through the app. monitoring AND glitch free arranging and mixing capabilities at a single setting.
 
As ever Danny cuts to the meat of the issue.

Well ... the trick is ... you have to set your Project Sample Rate to 384,000. Then click Apply. Then set it back to 44100. Then click on something else, like ... oh, I dunno, one of the Dim Solo Gain settings, that way the 44100 isn't highlighted blue. ;)

 
Ya scoundrel!!!...
 
Post that figure upstairs by tomorrow you just know you'll have someone swearing he's beat you for real, because he's betterer at tweaking computers than anyone else...

LOL Bub, you got me with that! I'm looking and thinking...wait a minute, he's beating me too at 128?! How is that possible?! Hahahaha!

I got this other box of mine down pretty low, but like Jon said...there's really no need. I have an 18 track project up and as you can see, the cpu isn't too bad. If I pressed play, it would spike up just a little more than that. Quite a few plugs and drum modules in that project....so I don't think I could do much more before it would drop out or click and sputter, but it plays all the way through without a hiccup. It's nice to know, if I need low latency that I can do it on a card that was released in the 90's. :)

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/4909348/Sonar%26AsioDAWSettings32.JPG

-Danny

mgh, you can't get any lower on yours? I just got a new Audiofire 12 for the other studio and we were down to 64 without a problem.

Hmm, I wasn't aware of the safety buffers. That's interesting and quite cool to know, thanks!

bitflipper


5ms latency is just way too long for me. That's why I insist that the band stack all their amps in one big pile behind the drummer and we all stand in a tight circle, no more than 2 feet away from the bass drum. It gets pretty cozy when the horn section arrives. But we're thinking about getting a trio of cute girls to sing backup and having them sit on our laps.

 
(Not sure about that arrangement though, maybe the bass and drummer should have their own space while you stay in another with the girls?  I head that bass players have more latency too...)

spacey

Well I told my wife I'd just get three girl backup singers to sit on my lap and just move the
speakers closer.

She said, "with your luck they'll probably steal your speakers and it sounds like the only thing you have that works!".

I give up.

Every year or so, I ask my wife for some money to upgrade to the new version of Sonar. She always says, (kidding around of course) "Uh!, you wasting your money on that cake stuff that never works right? When are you going to learn?", and she walks away shaking her head at me and smiling.

Even my own wife picks on me because of Sonar.

Why do I keep putting up with this punishment?