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Re:Why not Sonar? 2013/03/26 20:50:16 (permalink)
the bass player for Megadeth isn't exactly the first person I'd think of if I were looking for advice on a DAW

No, you'd go straight to the oracle: Alan Parsons.


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Re:Why not Sonar? 2013/03/26 20:59:31 (permalink)
If I were to do that, I'd be much likely to consider the opinion of someone who's also got solid technical knowledge, like Charlie Clouser, formerly of NIN. 

That guy obviously knows his stuff, seems to have similar requirements as I have AND I enjoy his work.

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Re:Why not Sonar? 2013/03/27 03:38:30 (permalink)
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the bass player for Megadeth isn't exactly the first person I'd think of if I were looking for advice on a DAW

No, you'd go straight to the oracle: Alan Parsons.

I don't even know what that means but found it really funny for some reason. 


I guess oracle is hell or something. Lol. 


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It's very subjective cause to me Depeche Mode I think mechanical, grid vsti boring. 

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Re:Why not Sonar? 2013/03/27 04:28:25 (permalink)

In regards to Alan Parson - that was in reference to a giveaway where the winner would receive $5000 to spend on stuff for their home studio, and that prize was presented by Parson, who would assist the winner picking up gear that would improve his home studio.  

At one point, Parson mentioned that RAM was everything, and it didn't really look as if he knew what he was actually talking about.

In regards to Depeche Mode, I was referring to the fact that, considering their knowledge of synths, samplers and sequencers, they're likely to know more about DAW software and computers than a guy playing bass in a metal band. 
 
I could be wrong of course, maybe Elefson is a total computer geek and has messed w/ sequencers for 20 years. But, let's just say that, it's not as likely for him to be well-versed into that stuff as a bunch guys who made a career using electronic instruments.

Regardless of the music.

post edited by Rain - 2013/03/27 04:34:51

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Re:Why not Sonar? 2013/03/27 06:05:45 (permalink)
Imo this is an image question :

No  DAW - Sequencer is bug-free.
The user  and community  orientated update "politic"  
of Cakewalk  ,which involve the user.community
much more then every other of these Daw builder´s in
the development of sonar and this in public ( forum aso....) 
is strong conjunction building .
Afaik this is the history of Sonar,it is very user based development
and so most versions need some updates, to work stable.

This in public conducted  discussion is in this very
competitive DAW market a flaw cause it can be used by other companies.

Often I heard the sentence ,after asked the question which DAW I use and 
replied Sonar :
Sonar? Sonar is very buggy!  

So, here in Germany it´s very hard to have a  recording studio and  
not using PT or Q-base, cause musicians are still sceptical .

Pragi
One think I forget to mention:
Sonar is the best DAW  for me!





post edited by Pragi - 2013/03/28 07:30:51
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Re:Why not Sonar? 2013/03/27 08:33:50 (permalink)
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I'm really really bummed because I was using Cakewalk by twelve tone 20 years ago at university and now, getting back into the music side of things and the software architecture of both vsts and adaptive modules for reactor and kontakt I've had to abandon sonar as a testing environment completely.  it has a lot of potential but what I am building right now simply will not work unless they nail the midi problems down. 

Howdy - swamptooh - can you please elaborate on your midi woes as a new thread?  I'd like an opportunity to see if there is anything there that could be resolved.


Thanks, 


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Re:Why not Sonar? 2013/03/27 08:42:58 (permalink)
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swamptooth


I'm really really bummed because I was using Cakewalk by twelve tone 20 years ago at university and now, getting back into the music side of things and the software architecture of both vsts and adaptive modules for reactor and kontakt I've had to abandon sonar as a testing environment completely.  it has a lot of potential but what I am building right now simply will not work unless they nail the midi problems down. 

Howdy - swamptooh - can you please elaborate on your midi woes as a new thread?  I'd like an opportunity to see if there is anything there that could be resolved.


Thanks, 


Bob Bone
here is a link to his post http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=2807089

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Re:Why not Sonar? 2013/03/27 09:13:13 (permalink)
Thanks - I posted a response on that thread

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Re:Why not Sonar? 2013/03/27 12:55:43 (permalink)
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In regards to Alan Parson - that was in reference to a giveaway where the winner would receive $5000 to spend on stuff for their home studio, and that prize was presented by Parson, who would assist the winner picking up gear that would improve his home studio.  

At one point, Parson mentioned that RAM was everything, and it didn't really look as if he knew what he was actually talking about.

In regards to Depeche Mode, I was referring to the fact that, considering their knowledge of synths, samplers and sequencers, they're likely to know more about DAW software and computers than a guy playing bass in a metal band. 

I could be wrong of course, maybe Elefson is a total computer geek and has messed w/ sequencers for 20 years. But, let's just say that, it's not as likely for him to be well-versed into that stuff as a bunch guys who made a career using electronic instruments.

Regardless of the music.
I know what your saying Rain. And agree. But at the ame time I think there's a lot of people who would think "Megadeath uses Sonar. Sweet! I'm gonna use Sonar." and don't really care about the technology side of things. 



Like for me it would be the Who bassist. 

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Re:Why not Sonar? 2013/03/27 13:05:01 (permalink)
Yes,The Who...wow
Specially John Entwistle was a beast on bass,
but he died in 2002. 
Dont know which sonar version was relevant that time,


too long ago, or?




post edited by Pragi - 2013/03/28 07:28:59
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Re:Why not Sonar? 2013/03/27 13:15:02 (permalink)
I seen The Who in an outdoor stadium... One of the best concerts I've ever heard as far as sound quality goes.


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Re:Why not Sonar? 2013/03/27 13:24:08 (permalink)
Speaking of dissin' Cakewalk...
Has anyone seen the versions of Presonus' Studio One available?
Apparently "Pro" is better than "Producer"...
  • Entry level = Studio One Free
  • Level One = Studio One Artist
  • Level Two = Studio One Producer
  • Level Three = Studio One Professional
Gotta' love that marketing.


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Re:Why not Sonar? 2013/03/27 16:19:31 (permalink)
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Rain


In regards to Alan Parson - that was in reference to a giveaway where the winner would receive $5000 to spend on stuff for their home studio, and that prize was presented by Parson, who would assist the winner picking up gear that would improve his home studio.  

At one point, Parson mentioned that RAM was everything, and it didn't really look as if he knew what he was actually talking about.

In regards to Depeche Mode, I was referring to the fact that, considering their knowledge of synths, samplers and sequencers, they're likely to know more about DAW software and computers than a guy playing bass in a metal band. 

I could be wrong of course, maybe Elefson is a total computer geek and has messed w/ sequencers for 20 years. But, let's just say that, it's not as likely for him to be well-versed into that stuff as a bunch guys who made a career using electronic instruments.

Regardless of the music.
I know what your saying Rain. And agree. But at the ame time I think there's a lot of people who would think "Megadeath uses Sonar. Sweet! I'm gonna use Sonar." and don't really care about the technology side of things. 



Like for me it would be the Who bassist. 

You know, you're quite probably right. :) 

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Re:Why not Sonar? 2013/03/27 16:35:00 (permalink)
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swamptooth


I'm really really bummed because I was using Cakewalk by twelve tone 20 years ago at university and now, getting back into the music side of things and the software architecture of both vsts and adaptive modules for reactor and kontakt I've had to abandon sonar as a testing environment completely.  it has a lot of potential but what I am building right now simply will not work unless they nail the midi problems down. 

Howdy - swamptooh - can you please elaborate on your midi woes as a new thread?  I'd like an opportunity to see if there is anything there that could be resolved.


Thanks, 


Bob Bone
here is a link to his post http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=2807089
why thanks, raebach!  seems like this issue may be gaining momentum again after i guess everyone gave up a couple of years ago...


 
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Re:Why not Sonar? 2013/03/27 16:39:36 (permalink)
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Speaking of dissin' Cakewalk...
Has anyone seen the versions of Presonus' Studio One available?
Apparently "Pro" is better than "Producer"...
  • Entry level = Studio One Free
  • Level One = Studio One Artist
  • Level Two = Studio One Producer
  • Level Three = Studio One Professional
Gotta' love that marketing.
It's kinda funny because I've been using studio one as well, and this one was hilarious:


in sonar, via the media browser, navigate to the dimension pro multisamples folder
from there go to 21 - vocals
then open the jacyn riffs folder
then click on any riffs1-005.flac
wait...
wait some more...
wait even more...


now, follow the same steps in studio one (or cubase) and see what happens...



 
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Re:Why not Sonar? 2013/03/27 17:38:29 (permalink)
I guess converting them to WAV would work, though a pain.  

I did take a look at those first few vocal flac files and the only thing that MAYBE (and I am grasping here) is partial access to standard users, while admins have full access.  Is your user account an admin?  (again, grasping here).
Have you contacted Cakewalk tech support on this?  I saw your other thread from back in October on this, if I have the date right in my head.

Perhaps they have a solution for you?

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Re:Why not Sonar? 2013/03/27 20:59:55 (permalink)
(My X2a is now hung with a whiteout screen, thanks to swamptooth :-)

My guess is that the media browser can't read flac files.

So why'd they change some parts to flac anyway ? Save space ?

I causes all sorts of headaches.



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Re:Why not Sonar? 2013/03/27 21:08:53 (permalink)
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(My X2a is now hung with a whiteout screen, thanks to swamptooth :-)

My guess is that the media browser can't read flac files.

So why'd they change some parts to flac anyway ? Save space ?

I causes all sorts of headaches.

i just got a great e-mail from bub about this.  classic.  all the flac files i've tried (made by sonar) in studio one and cubase work perfectly well.  and in sonar... white screens and crashes and track icons that play sounds if you click them enough times.  


sorry paul - thanks for taking a look at it though. ;)

 
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