Soft synths to audio conversion.HELP!!!!!

Hey, Freeze the synth.

YEah clone the wav clips to a new track because when you unfreeze it erases its track data.

As above. I usually freeze, copy, paste to a new audio track and then archive the midi track. If you unfreeze the synth track you get your midi back.

I will usually bring up a new instance of the synth if I want to add another track with it. That way I don't overwrite my old data accidently.

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I'm a little confused... if all you want is to convert it to an audio track isn't freezing already achieving that?  do what ever fxs you want then freeze... if you need to change something later on... unfreeze.... am i missing something hear?   are you trying to duplicate for panning or something other than just freeing up cpu?  you just have to unfreeze all the tracks before mix down when you've got every thing just right.  i converted all my midi to permanent audio once and i do believe it thinned out the mix and made it yik quite a bit.  it didn't sound as good as the actual live midi.  unless i actually recorded it in real time to a separate audio channel.  came to the conclusion it was just a lot easier to freeze and unfreeze(if necessary until mix down.  if i want a duplicate of that midi track i simply copy the midi information to a new track and when i get the new track where i need it.... freeze that sucker.  just seems to sound better to me that way... plus you have the advantage of changing the other copied midi tracks sound just slightly to really make it a new track rather than just a copy.

Bob Oister


The simplest way, at least for me, is instead of muting all the other tracks, solo both the midi track and the audio track containing the softsynth, select both tracks, then do a "bounce to track".  Voila, you've got a new audio track containing your softsynth!

Hope this helps!
Bob

No need to solo or mute, just select the midi track and the softsynth and bounce using "Tracks" not entire mix, . Guess there are a few different ways

UnderTow

Jeff Evans


Richard is correct. Any soft synth parts need to be frozen first.

You do not need to Freeze first but you do need to select both the VST's Audio track and it's MIDI track.

It would be more intuitive if Sonar figured out it had to play the MIDI on the associated MIDI track when bouncing a VST audio track but it isn't a big deal to have to manually select it.

UnderTow

It does that already. Right-click on the vst audio track and select freeze. NO need to select the MIDI track and the audio track. Freeze and bounce are the same thing, really.

I've always used the Freeze, UnFreeze method.

Susan G

If you select the midi track, Sonar selects the softsynth automatically-I do that all day everyday>

Ditto. Unless you insert the synth via a "non-traditional" method. For example, if you have a MIDI track pointed to one output and then change it to a different synth later I think you have to select both tracks, since the automatic connection is broken. I can't swear to that, and I can't check right now, but I'm pretty sure that's true.

-Susan

If you change the softsynth a MIDI track points to you still have to go to the MIDI track and point it to the new softsynth to get the MIDI track to play the new softsynth anyway, so the automatic connection is re-established. So there's no problem with freezing the new situation - you can do the freeze by either selecting the MIDI track or the softsynth track; you don't have to select both. I do this a whole lot, so I know it works (Sonar Producer 8.3.1).

Hi Jack-

If you change the softsynth a MIDI track points to you still have to go to the MIDI track and point it to the new softsynth to get the MIDI track to play the new softsynth anyway, so the automatic connection is re-established.

Excellent! I can't test this right now, but I believe you, of course!

-Susan

iceaddiction
Hi guys,

I'm trying to convert a soft synth event to an audio track.
I mute all tracks except the one to bounce, select the
track and marking a range on the ruler but I can't bounce
it because it says that there's no audio selection...
Anyone can help on this please?????

You missed 1 step.
Select the audio in the track you want to bounce.

There was something odd related to freezing, I just don't remember what... Freezing is NOT like bouncing...

Was it so that if you freeze a synth, then edit the audio, and then unfreeze, you loose all your edits?? This means, that if you want to record one triplet more you lose all the edits you've done.

I'm not in the position to try now, but there was something in freezing that clearly makes it different from bouncing.

When bouncing a soft synth I have been getting a +3db raise in volume from the original synth track to the mono audio converted version.

Are synths by nature all basically stereo?

I've ensured the synth isn't routed anywhere odd and have tried setting the synth to both mono and stereo on the track strip.

padwacker73


i MUTE all tracks except the one i wanna bounce, then edit>select>NONE, then edit> bounce to tracks. when the bounce to tracks box opens, select TRACKS under SOURCE CATEGORY and then chouse your channel format then click ok. you will get a audio track and you can delete your synth midi track

Or you could just click the track so all the clips get highlited. As far as the sourse goes. Select the one that you want. If i just want the synth wothout bus effects, then tracks is what you want. If you want bus effects, including master bus effetcs, then select bus's or even main outs.
Cj

That last post (#26) is three and a half years old......I think the OP has figured it out :o)