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Re: alternative to percussion strip? 2013/09/17 18:09:22 (permalink)
I pretty much stick to parallel compression hard-core. I try hard not to kill transients when I can, especially with a limiter. I only use a limiter to catch overs. Using the Transient-shaper, I will use the TS-64 on a buss channel and route the snare or kick to it from a Send. I will use the TS-64 to really get the exact "pop" or punch out of the kick or snare and then really, just mix it in to the Master.
 
In my case, I even use Pre-Delay on Convolution reverbs to allow a slight bit more pop from transients. Kramer Tape is pretty good, but I think it softens some transients, while it can also take out harshness in cymbals, meanwhile brightening the mix (using Flux sparingly). Otherwise, I only like that plug in electric guitars played through tube amps.
 
So, in my opinion, use the Transient shapers (Waves CLA-Drums is pretty good, too), but use them in parallel. That's my thought.

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Re: alternative to percussion strip? 2013/09/17 18:55:44 (permalink)
I still don't get the "geared toward hip-hop" presumption. LoudMax is popular with that crowd, but I use it and I'm about as far removed from hip-hop as you can get. I can't imagine any tool that's restricted to a single genre. OK, stutter-edit's pretty specific. But we're talking bread 'n butter effects here: dynamics and EQ. There is no such thing as a "hip-hop equalizer" or a "hip-hop compressor", is there?


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Re: alternative to percussion strip? 2013/09/17 19:31:12 (permalink)
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There is no such thing as a "hip-hop equalizer" or a "hip-hop compressor", is there?

The day there is I'm all over them like butter on bread (no pun in ten did, or wuzzit?).
 
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Re: alternative to percussion strip? 2013/09/17 19:43:08 (permalink)
Nope it does not work - sheesh how many times!!!
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Re: alternative to percussion strip? 2013/09/17 21:00:28 (permalink)
Well I can take every fx out of PC except the EQ. Then put back what I want and arrange them in the order I want. I just did it. Grab the bar with the on/off button for the fx and put it where you want. I have the EQ all the way at the bottom out of sight. With Breverb first then FX Chains. and I can switch Breverb and FX chains in any order. 
 
Not sure what you mean "Nope it does not work - sheesh how many times!!!"
Sheeesh yes it does!! : )

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Re: alternative to percussion strip? 2013/09/17 21:11:57 (permalink)
Okay now try it with just ONE ...which is the point of this exercise as I want to remove all the clutter to see just one module.
 
For example, remove all the modules (apart from the EQ which cannot be removed) and then just load one, say the CA2A compressor - it goes to the bottom of the strip just above the collapsed EQ..now try to slide it up to all that empty space that is sitting above...
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Re: alternative to percussion strip? 2013/09/17 21:26:56 (permalink)
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..now try to slide it up to all that empty space that is sitting above...



 Well no that ain't gonna work! It sees nothing to slide up!!
 
mt space ain't that bad!!

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Re: alternative to percussion strip? 2013/09/17 21:32:11 (permalink)

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Re: alternative to percussion strip? 2013/09/17 21:37:50 (permalink)
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..now try to slide it up to all that empty space that is sitting above...



Well no that ain't gonna work! It sees nothing to slide up!!
 
mt space ain't that bad!!


Yeah I guess so just another of those little annoying things in an otherwise great program. No biggie. At least you discovered what I meant LOL!!
 
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Re: alternative to percussion strip? 2013/09/17 21:38:59 (permalink)
BTW do you know, or have you ever found out why the EQ cannot be removed?
 
Just curious
 
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Re: alternative to percussion strip? 2013/09/17 22:22:24 (permalink)
I'm not sure what you are talking about. I just deleted all the modules from PC and loaded the CA-2A where it went below the quad EQ but all I did was grab the module and place on top of the EQ. Now if you are complaining that there is empty space above the module because there is only 2 modules I can't see a point in that complaint. 
 
The idea is being able to route signals through modules in an order of one's choosing. If you only need one module loaded beyond the EQ worrying about empty space is ridiculous. If you are concerned about clutter as you put it hit I on your keyboard. 

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Re: alternative to percussion strip? 2013/09/17 22:39:06 (permalink)
   Good grief!
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Re: alternative to percussion strip? 2013/09/17 22:43:03 (permalink)
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   Good grief!


What is that suppose to mean?

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Re: alternative to percussion strip? 2013/09/18 03:44:32 (permalink)
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BTW do you know, or have you ever found out why the EQ cannot be removed?
 
Just curious
 




Yeah I think the EQ is hard wired into each channel strip. That was done way back IIRC. At first it was offered as an option to have the eq on each channel of the CV and a lot of people complained that it should just be hard wired in to eliminate the step of having to turn each one on when bringing in a project with lots of trks from an older/previous version.
 
And that was the beginning of what we now call PC! IIRC : )

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Re: alternative to percussion strip? 2013/09/18 13:17:18 (permalink)
Cool, thx Grem - now you have explained it,  it does makes sense as I s'pose EQ would probs be the first thing folks reach for. 
 
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Re: alternative to percussion strip? 2013/09/19 03:30:52 (permalink)
In X1, the original Sonitus EQ was hard wired into each channel but was superseded by the Quad Curve EQ.
 
Users had to make a conscious choice to switch off the Sonitus in order to use the Quad in the Pro Channel

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