maximumpower
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Re: X3 Producer actually cost me well over $1200 (estimated)
2013/10/06 11:33:32
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I started out with Pro Audio 4 and I have since upgraded/purchased PA5,6,7,8,9,SONAR XL, SONAR 3,4,5,6,7,8,8.5,X1 and X2.
(note, somehow I skipped SONAR 2).
Fortunately, I was really only charged $149 for X3.
Take the cost you paid from Pro Audio 4 to X3 and then divide that amount by the number of years/months you had Sonar software. The calculation will give you the average yearly/monthly cost you paid during those years that you were making music with the software you choose to buy.
You may be surprised by how relatively low the amount actually is.
By my rough calculations, that is about $0.20 per day. I also had Electronics Project for Musicians. I loved that book! BTW I finally got to see Craig in person at Sweetwater this year during Gear Fest. If you have not done that (ie go to Gear Fest and sit in a Craig Anderton class) you are missing out. It was like drinking from a firehouse but man was it fun. I took notes like a madman. I wanted to introduce myself to him afterwards but so did everyone else! lol Maybe next year? I started off with a Fostex 4 track, but it died after a short while. I upgraded to a mutli-speed Fostex 4 track with a built in mixer. I still have it and use the mixer part into my PA (for basement use only). Then I got married and raised (well, still raising) a couple of kids. I started off with Sonar X1. However, now that I have decent recording equipment, and 25 years older, I feel like I need to step up my musicianship. I'm working on it though.
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jscomposer
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Re: X3 Producer actually cost me well over $1200 (estimated)
2013/10/06 13:50:40
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☄ Helpfulby bapu 2013/10/06 13:51:52
bapu
I started out with Pro Audio 4 and I have since upgraded/purchased PA5,6,7,8,9,SONAR XL, SONAR 3,4,5,6,7,8,8.5,X1 and X2.
(note, somehow I skipped SONAR 2).
Fortunately, I was really only charged $149 for X3.
If it makes you feel any better, I've spent about $20,000 on PC's since Cakewalk Pro 3.0, and have about $30,000 in outboard gear that is now redundant. Just pray you never have to purchase Pro Tools 11 HD!
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Fog
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Re: X3 Producer actually cost me well over $1200 (estimated)
2013/10/06 14:00:18
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technically you haven't spend $1200 if you want to be pedantic about it. you spent more!!
e.g. I bought a computer in 1983.... in todays money that is / was *4 that amount... due to how much people earned / cost of labour etc.
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musicroom
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Re: X3 Producer actually cost me well over $1200 (estimated)
2013/10/06 14:08:10
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I spent a lot on coffee... :)
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bapu
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Re: X3 Producer actually cost me well over $1200 (estimated)
2013/10/06 14:11:47
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musicroom
Bapu spends a lot of time in the coffee house... :)
Check your keyboard. You seem to have some faulty keys.
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Re: X3 Producer actually cost me well over $1200 (estimated)
2013/10/06 14:22:12
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☼ Best Answerby bapu 2013/10/06 14:30:19
bapu
I started out with Pro Audio 4 and I have since upgraded/purchased PA5,6,7,8,9,SONAR XL, SONAR 3,4,5,6,7,8,8.5,X1 and X2.
(note, somehow I skipped SONAR 2).
Fortunately, I was really only charged $149 for X3.
hey Bapu: I've been buying Kellogg's corn flakes since the 60's; So by your analogy my bowl this morning cost me $23,599 (as far as I can figure)
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markyzno
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Re: X3 Producer actually cost me well over $1200 (estimated)
2013/10/06 14:37:50
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beltrom
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My first sequencer was Micro-rhythm on the Commodore 64 :D I think I paid £1.99 for it back in the day.
Hehe, nostalgic trip this thread. That reminded me that I actually built a CV/gate interface from instructions in a magazine (Radio electronics and for Sinclair spectrum if my memory isn't messed up). I had to adapt the design to my Spectravideo 328 and code the program myself, but managed to run my Monopoly on it.
 I used to love building beats through the C64 synth chip and MicroRhythm, it even had a John Bonham setting! That was mega cool!...Jesus I was about 9 or 10 at the time but it blew my mind.... I still have my C64 here, should maybe wire it into my studio somehow and show Sonar how Step sequencing is really done! 
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markyzno
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Re: X3 Producer actually cost me well over $1200 (estimated)
2013/10/06 14:39:02
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I reckon all the X2 haters should spend a week with me on a C64 in a darkened room. 
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Re: X3 Producer actually cost me well over $1200 (estimated)
2013/10/06 14:39:26
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tom1
hey Bapu:
I've been buying Kellogg's corn flakes since the 60's;
So by your analogy my bowl this morning cost me $23,599 (as far as I can figure)
That's the beauty of estimates. Accuracy not required.
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Re: X3 Producer actually cost me well over $1200 (estimated)
2013/10/06 15:10:50
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I first used Cakewalk to mix down tracks recorded on a Master-Slave pair of XT20 ADATs. I still have the Owner's Manual (640 pages) from Sonar 3 with some of my notes on importing digital audio. Compared to those costs (maintenance and cleaning on the ADATs, tape, etc.), Sonar has saved me money at every step along the way...I used the A/D converters on those ADATs until I upgraded to Producer 8.0 (stopping at Sonar 4 and 6 along the way). At 8.5 I bought an M-Audio audiophile box (which was crappy and crash-inducing), then upgraded to a Saffire PRO 40 (still use 8 channels of Alesis ADAT for occasions) at X1. I bought X2, but haven't installed yet, and the comping feature has me salivating for X3. Again, though (since someone above asked what is the point), Cakewalk has saved me so much time and money (not the least of which is using PCs instead of MACs) in recording that I'm certain it pays for itself. Even if I pay myself $5/hour for studio time (because I'm not gigging or doing instrument repair or whatever when I'm tracking) I'm certain that the comping feature alone will pay for the X3 upgrade in short order.
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jbow
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Re: X3 Producer actually cost me well over $1200 (estimated)
2013/10/06 15:59:11
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I started with S2PE and skipped S8. The most frustrating piece of gear I ever bought was a Yamaha QY-70 sequencer... I found that I was an analog man. It's only money... it is no good if you don't spend it. J
post edited by jbow - 2013/10/06 16:05:25
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piangio
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Re: X3 Producer actually cost me well over $1200 (estimated)
2013/10/06 16:53:26
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I think that a good job must be payed. Cakewalk people do a very good job, imho. I'm cakewalk user starting from cakewalk 6 and I want to believe that the money spent helps cakewalk not to stop their work. Thank you cakewalk team!!!
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Re: X3 Producer actually cost me well over $1200 (estimated)
2013/10/06 16:57:08
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I think that a good job must be payed. Cakewalk people do a very good job, imho. I'm cakewalk user starting from cakewalk 6 and I want to believe that the money spent helps cakewalk not to stop their work. Thank you cakewalk team!!!
I agree. Looking into my account I see the first time I used the CW Strore was to buy Sonar7 producer pack in time for Christmas 2007- which included Sonar, DP, Rapture and P5v2. That cost $649 (marked down from $999 becuase I had already bought P5v1 from a store). I bet if Bapu totalled up all his purchases it would be much more than $1200!
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Re: X3 Producer actually cost me well over $1200 (estimated)
2013/10/06 17:19:27
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jbow
I started with S2PE and skipped S8. The most frustrating piece of gear I ever bought was a Yamaha QY-70 sequencer... I found that I was an analog man. It's only money... it is no good if you don't spend it. J
I used to have a QY100, I loved that thing cause it was so portable! QY70 was pretty decent too except too big for me. And a very small memory IIRC.
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Re: X3 Producer actually cost me well over $1200 (estimated)
2013/10/06 18:25:03
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I reckon all the X2 haters should spend a week with me on a C64 in a darkened room.
x2 ? it's all about x3 now. err and things have moved on... http://www.8bitventures.com/mssiah/.
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Jtbass
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Re: X3 Producer actually cost me well over $1200 (estimated)
2013/10/06 19:24:06
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I just looked at my store account.....I didn't realize that I had bought PA 9 back in January of 1900. Must have using my time machine that day.
Jt
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