CJaysMusic
Ill ask him when i see him

Considering Op is looking for a MIDI based solution I'm not sure if Mr Harris could help much... aside from perhaps creating his own custom patch/plug that is.
 
Which would be pretty darned awesome actually.
 
I met him briefly once outside a club with Nicko years ago. Unfortunately my drunken bandmate acted like drooling fan fool and made them kind of roll their eyes at us.
 
*sigh*

Beepster

Atsuko
Who purchased Sonar X1 Producer before the suite was made available, had to buy all the prochannels, Z3TA+2 upgrades, etc. to make it turn into Sonar X1 expanded with all the features of the suite.

Ouch. That's pretty brutal. I'd imagine that probably added at least a couple hundred bucks to your Cake tab. :-/

Kinda takes some of the sting out of that first buy.


 
The X1 Production Suite was a bundle containing X1 Producer Expanded, Z3TA+2 and PC4K Expander/Gate. There was a "First Class Upgrade" promo that offered the bundle as an upgrade. That was what got me to buy into the X series.

Bristol_Jonesey
 
 There does seem to some sort of round robin going on with the program becasue I programmed a very simple riff and ramped the velocity up from 1 to 127 and there were some interesting tonal variations going on which other synths wouldn't do - it just gets louder.

I'm not familiar with the term Round Robin in regards to MIDI/synths (although have seen it used on occasion here). The Zeta is really kind of nuts though and I'm tempted to buy some of the tuts to learn how to really mess with it. Although a lot of the patches are just way too out in left field for me when I've tried some of the tamer patches and screwed with the parameters some really cool stuff happened. I find it kind of freaky/cool that somehow it makes all those noises, some of which are very realistic like that bass patch, completely based on raw noise. At least I think that's what it does. AFAIK it doesn't use samples at all like Dim Pro. Whoever programs that stuff is way nerdier than I could hope to be. :-/
 

Bristol_Jonesey
 
 Nice patch, I might use that as a placeholder until I get a round to playing my 5 string over it. 
I do this with virtually of our songs..
 

This is exactly how I use it most of the time. If I'm just roughing out some parts or programming a backing track to practice improv over it's pretty sweet. A lot easier than having to whip out the bass, practice the part I want and then track it/tweak it AND it's a lot simpler to loop or adjust in the PRV and if I'm playing the part on my controller as opposed to programming it with input quantize I can just pull basslines out of my butt and have them tight to the meter.
 
I still need to scour the other synths to see what other bass sounds I can find (like SI and Dim Pro) but finding this one solved a lot of problems for me. Total fluke I found it and it's kind of tucked away in a weird place. Like as you browse through those Zeta bass patches you get all sots of insane stuff then out of nowhere this simple, straight ahead electric bass. It was a little surprising. lol

Beepster
 The Zeta is really kind of nuts though and I'm tempted to buy some of the tuts to learn how to really mess with it.

Start with the free ones
http://blog.cakewalk.com/...digital-sound-factory/

scook

Beepster
 The Zeta is really kind of nuts though and I'm tempted to buy some of the tuts to learn how to really mess with it.

Start with the free ones
http://blog.cakewalk.com/...digital-sound-factory/

Well geez... I had totally forgot about that one. Hadn't watched it yet. Thanks.
 
I seem to have totally jacked this thread too.
 
Sorry about that. Lots of ideas here to play with for the OP though... if they're still around. lol

For fret rattle, I like the tube saturation PC Plug In... you know... the big nob.
 
I split the track so that the higher sounds go to a bus and put the tube saturation on the bus.
 
Like the whole use two copies of a multi band and solo the low bands on one bus and the high bands on the other bus. Then put the tube saturation on the higher bus.
 
If you turn it up, you can get a nice crunch from the fret noise.

WOW!! thank you all for these suggestions!
 
I haven't had a chance to read all of them yet, but what i've seen so far are a lot of awesome suggestions to bring out attack transients etc. What I originally meant was I was wondering if there was a library that had that particular effect in it. I also forgot to mention that I have the Scsrbee Jazz bass. Its just that, like most libraries, it wasn't played/recorded that aggressively.
 
I had hoped that someone knew of a library that was sampled with that particular aggressive technique.
 
Anyway its gonna take a couple days to work through all of these suggestions. Thank you all for the detailed informative responses.

HI Bruckner2 Steve Harris comes to Malta for Holiday very often,what a nice person  he is,if you like next time I see him, I`ll ask him if he can come and play it for you.Dont be surprised he say yes,but I`m only joking ,I`m too shy to ask him that.
The best thing is to get a bass player and record it,he dont have to be Steve Harris.
I think it`s qiucker.
Peace.

Leadfoot

KPerry
You only seem to get this effect with Fender basses

Any bass will give you that sound. It just depends on your technique and the aggressiveness with which you play. Just ask my basses.

OK, in my experience, you only get this with Fender basses (and I've had bassists try to replicate with other makes) :-)  I don't know what it is...it could even be down to subtlies in how the fingers end up because of the bass shape, but it's definitely a difference.

KPerry
I think his Rickenbacker days were his best sound-wise.  I love that piano-like Ricky sound, but how it can also growl so much, especially when you play it like Lemmy!

I agree. Listening to the bass line of Red Barchetta in my head right now. To me, Moving Pictures was Geddy's peak.

thanks again.  lol the NASA analogy.
 
sorta off topic but I'd like to recommend to anyone who doesn't know about it yet:  this integration of Melodyne into X3 is stunningly cool. especially if you spring for the editor upgrade. record an audio file, say a bassline , then Without even needing to load Melodyne, drag the audio file to a MIDI track and presto audio to midi conversion!! yes the midi track might need some clean up, but how long have we been waiting for audio to midi that works this well and this simply?!
 
in fact if you take the extra time to load the audio file into melodyne before audio/midi conversion and clean up the timing and length and especially pitch correct the notes (polyphonically in Editor upgrade) you get a near perfect midi file WITH the feel that you played the original. it doesn't just convert to notes it also translates the velocity of the notes
 
so even if i play kinda bad ( which is the case when playing fast) i can get a perfectly timed audio file without time stretching artifacts etc
 
anyway...not trying to do a commercial here. just thought i would mention it in case you kind and generous NASA folks didn't know about it