Addictive Drums - Pan Control Of Individual Cymbals?

Yes, go to the edit page of AD, click on the cymbal and there you can change the pan in the overhead and room mics.

Unless you mean the 2 knobs left/right of the cymbal image that are labelled Overhead and Room? I thought those to be volume...
 
  those are volumes, but the slider things above them are the pans for both room and OH.  But since you have both left and right channels of both room and overheads, I just set my overheads panned 30-40 off center respectively within sonar and that will give you a very good stereo spread

The pan control looks weird which is why you probably missed it. The pan looks full from left to right but you can drag on side of it to the other and get a little dot and just move that dot to where you want.

Thanks Guys...

I've got it now... It's the way they maple meant track width with pan that confused my eye...

This allows for he use of stereo samples, but also can make it more difficult to position the individual kit pieces. I narroe the width of the cymbal so that I could move it further left then the stereo sample has it placed... And it relocates, but sounds a bit odd blending back into the kit...

So for the moment, I'm leaving the cymbals the way they have them sample-based locations... I can live with that for now... But at least I understand the plugin better... Now what is grow very dark slider within the frame?

Keni

This is one of my issues with AD...

I'm not comfortable with their system (Gui) handling of cymbals.

Both the panning and the width/location are difficult to set... Though the tools are there

As the samples appear to be stereo samples, but sound as though they are recorded in relative position to the other pieces. Trying to place a cymbal's focus point as desired has been very hard.

I think I would prefer the cymbal's mic'd without relative position (centered stereo), then have them appear with individual faders/width/pan as he drum pieces do.

I understand the realism of recording (sampling) all the cymbal's to a common set of overheads, but as we each find different needs, it makes adjusting personal preferences much harder...

Not a deal breaker, but not what I would optimally prefer...

So a real drawback of AD2 is that you're forced to do your sound design for the cymbals within AD2, as you can't export each cymbal as a separate stem and do it in SONAR.
 
Seems to be trying to force you to do ALL of your work within AD2 and just export the 2-track stereo.
 
Since I haven't yet attempted to adjust the stereo field of XLN's kits and presets, I hadn't noticed this as a workflow issue.
 
Strikes me as a real PITA. Best I can do is offer my sympathy.

jerrydf
Also note the stereo image is from the drummer's perspective (e.g hi-hat on the left, assuming a right handed drummer). You can flip the stereo image by clickkng on the master pan and pulling down, IIRC (I'm not in front of it at the moment), and you may have to simultaneously press control or shift ... something non-intuitive like that.
jdf

You're right. It is non-intuitive. Here's a link to Wookiee's post with the instructions.
 
http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3163246

yorolpal
I always mix my drums in "audience perspective" since that's the way anyone...but the drummer...would ever hear them.  It's probably just me but I really don't understand why "drummer perspective" seems to be the default on so many programs.

This is indeed "backwards".  Maybe it's because of the "Electronic Drums" that are triggered by
the samples...nevertheless...when mixing, it's always "audience" perspective...end of story...

RSMCGUITAR
Lol.
Does perspective really matter? Left handed drummer ,different stage setups etc. All still sound like music no?

I'm sure drummer perspective makes or breaks a hit song.
 
Just like if the hi-hat is 2db too loud.
 
Or there is just a bit too much reverb on the horns.
 
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