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Re: Microsoft Securtiy Essentials 2013/12/11 22:54:52 (permalink)
Malwarebytes is pretty aggressive and certainly good at clearing out minor things like tracking cookies as well as other more serious Malware. I have never run it on my DAW where I only connect to sites directly related to installed software and leave it to Windows Defender, but do run it on a couple of other computers in the house. The one my wife and I use stays reasonably clean. There is another the grandkids are allowd to use and that gets hundreds of hits when you run a scan.

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Re: Microsoft Securtiy Essentials 2013/12/11 23:20:56 (permalink)
I've always just used MSE. Because of this thread I just downloaded Malwarebytes and did a scan with it. Found zero instances of anything shady. I wonder how people get so much malware on their machines? I'm not exactly the most cautious surfer. 

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Re: Microsoft Securtiy Essentials 2013/12/12 03:33:01 (permalink)
I don't know where these came from either sharke.
 
I certainly haven't changed my browsing habits during the time that I noticed the system degradation and I've not had a fully fledged virus for years.
 
But the difference now is absolutely staggering! The affected pc is running like it was when I first built it.
 
 

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Re: Microsoft Securtiy Essentials 2013/12/12 03:35:37 (permalink)
Yup I think I've always used the same porn site.

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@48/24 & 128 buffers latency is 367 with offset of 38.

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Re: Microsoft Securtiy Essentials 2013/12/12 03:43:39 (permalink)
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Yup I think I've always used the same porn site.




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Re: Microsoft Securtiy Essentials 2013/12/12 07:01:16 (permalink)
+1... also you want backup drives not connected to the machine unless backing things up... that one supposedly will encrypt any connected device it can get to.

Yes - including mapped network drives.  Supposedly not UNC drives over the network, just mapped ones, but for companies or multi-pc networks of any sort, it's a huge problem when your data isn't protected.

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Re: Microsoft Securtiy Essentials 2013/12/12 07:20:14 (permalink)
Acronis sale has been extended till the end of the year, worth the (very little)  money for true image. Cheers

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@48/24 & 128 buffers latency is 367 with offset of 38.

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Re: Microsoft Securtiy Essentials 2013/12/12 07:36:11 (permalink)
My audio PC only goes online to receive Windows and driver updates. I use MSE and IO Bit ASC 7 Professional. Good combo IMHO but again I do not surf the web. 

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Re: Microsoft Securtiy Essentials 2013/12/12 08:29:15 (permalink)
Windows 8 has the default Windows Defender.  It replaces MSE as it does both Anti virus and malware.   I have not had any problems in over a year with Win8, now 8.1.

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Re: Microsoft Securtiy Essentials 2013/12/12 11:28:47 (permalink)
How ironic, guess what happened  to me today!!!

http://www.native-instruments.com/forum/showthread.php?212494-Not-good-enough!!
 
They will probably try to tell me it's a false positive...

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@48/24 & 128 buffers latency is 367 with offset of 38.

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Re: Microsoft Securtiy Essentials 2013/12/12 12:46:55 (permalink)
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How ironic, guess what happened  to me today!!!

http://www.native-instruments.com/forum/showthread.php?212494-Not-good-enough!!
 
They will probably try to tell me it's a false positive...


A virus that thinks it's a support tool.
 
Nice one NI

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Re: Microsoft Securtiy Essentials 2013/12/12 12:57:28 (permalink)
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Windows 8 has the default Windows Defender.  It replaces MSE as it does both Anti virus and malware.   I have not had any problems in over a year with Win8, now 8.1.


Have to correct this - Defender is NOT the replacement for MSE. It only protects against spyware and is no protection against viruses. MSE is a more complete package which protects against spyware AND viruses.

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/s...-windows-defender.aspx

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Re: Microsoft Securtiy Essentials 2013/12/12 13:02:59 (permalink)
It's kind of ironic that this thread came up.  As I was reading this yesterday...my PC was doing a Windows Update.  One of the updates was....."Malware Software Removal Tool."
 
I had just returned home from going to help a friend try to remove some malware from his computer.  Then got on the forum and read this thread.  Then....see the above update showing in the update window during the update process of my PC.  :)

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Re: Microsoft Securtiy Essentials 2013/12/12 13:46:41 (permalink)
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Windows 8 has the default Windows Defender.  It replaces MSE as it does both Anti virus and malware.   I have not had any problems in over a year with Win8, now 8.1.


Have to correct this - Defender is NOT the replacement for MSE. It only protects against spyware and is no protection against viruses. MSE is a more complete package which protects against spyware AND viruses.

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/s...-windows-defender.aspx

Sharke, in Windows 8 it IS the whole package, AV and Spyware/malware. In W7 one had to choose between either Defender or MSE, the system would not allow both. But in W8 they re-added defender bundled with MSE
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Re: Microsoft Securtiy Essentials 2013/12/12 13:50:03 (permalink)
The thing to add to your system really imo, is the app I mentioned earlier "DoNotTrackMe" it is free and works 100% to block tracking and cookie placement. Add to this another free app called Sandboxie (which "sandboxes" any app connecting with the internet - even browsers) couple these with MSE and you get pretty good protection, as long as you also adopt safe and cautious internet surfing habits
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Re: Microsoft Securtiy Essentials 2013/12/12 18:17:00 (permalink)
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It's kind of ironic that this thread came up.  As I was reading this yesterday...my PC was doing a Windows Update.  One of the updates was....."Malware Software Removal Tool."
 
I had just returned home from going to help a friend try to remove some malware from his computer.  Then got on the forum and read this thread.  Then....see the above update showing in the update window during the update process of my PC.  :)




You mean malicious software removal tool?
Microsoft releases one of those once a month on Windows update, installation is definitely recommended.
Cheers...

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Re: Microsoft Securtiy Essentials 2013/12/12 18:43:43 (permalink)
It is a good tool Alex, but even MS cannot save people from themselves!
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Re: Microsoft Securtiy Essentials 2013/12/12 18:44:56 (permalink)
I've used most of the free, paid, consumer and enterprise versions of the anti-virus programs mentioned here and others as well. 3 years ago I took a job in IT at a school district who used Kaspersky. I spent MOST of my time the first year fighting viruses that Kaspersky did not prevent. Once I convinced the Systems Administrator to switch to MSE, the frequency of virus related issues has easily dropped by 75% or more, and consistently so over the past 2 years.
 
Depending on who is doing the evaluation, and many other factors, you'll see all sorts of anti-virus software comparisons with different results touted on the web. My personal experience tells me that MSE is at least "good enough," it's free, and not too obtrusive. Besides, you own personal computing habits and common sense are far more effective than any protection software. I do recommend Malwarebytes (also free) for its ability to detect and clean a PC if you do have a virus, although as bitflipper pointed out, much of what it finds isn't always deadly -- still a good effective tool that gets frequent updates.
 
On the rare occasion a nasty virus gets through MSE that isn't so easily removed, there's a point in time of fighting a virus that just isn't worth it anymore and the best option is to re-image the OS drive. I can't stress enough how important is to keep a full system image on another drive along with frequent backups of your user data. Windows 7/8 included backup and restore tools are capable, with more feature rich options available from Acronis, Paragon, and others.
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Re: Microsoft Securtiy Essentials 2013/12/12 18:53:18 (permalink)
AV TEST runs regular independent tests on 26 AV programs. Tests are for protection,  performance  and usability. Click on  a test number for more analysis.

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Re: Microsoft Securtiy Essentials 2013/12/13 01:50:13 (permalink)
^cool site but none of these tests seem to include things like:
 
1) how to stop uncle Joe from clicking on the nipple on crackhoskanks.com that has a hidden trojan installer
2) teenage son from clicking "yes i would like to download the mega xbox cheat code pack" tha talso has a trojan
3) mom from installing that wonderful casino app that is also a trojan
etc..
 
I realize there is no protection from stupid, but I would like to see which of these holds up best to pure idiocy.  I equate these tests to self defense workshops where you know the guy is coming at you with the knife and the awesome defensive move works so well.
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Re: Microsoft Securtiy Essentials 2013/12/13 03:35:17 (permalink)
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^cool site but none of these tests seem to include things like:
 
1) how to stop uncle Joe from clicking on the nipple on crackhoskanks.com that has a hidden trojan installer
2) teenage son from clicking "yes i would like to download the mega xbox cheat code pack" tha talso has a trojan
3) mom from installing that wonderful casino app that is also a trojan
etc..
 
I realize there is no protection from stupid, but I would like to see which of these holds up best to pure idiocy.  I equate these tests to self defense workshops where you know the guy is coming at you with the knife and the awesome defensive move works so well.




It kind of does: http://www.av-test.org/en/test-procedures/test-modules/protection/
 
If access to the website or e-mail is blocked or the protection program displays a message, this is documented. The point at which access is blocked or the technique used to do so does not play a role in this stage of the procedure:
  1. Access to the URL is blocked.
  2. The exploit on the website is identified and blocked.
  3. Download of malicious components is blocked.
  4. Use of malicious components is blocked.

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