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Re: Trilian with X3 2014/02/24 15:49:10 (permalink)
Will Trillian make my Alembic sound better?
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Re: Trilian with X3 2014/02/24 16:00:38 (permalink)
 
 
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Thanks for the hint! I already use Groove3 tutorials... how could I forget about that source

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Re: Trilian with X3 2014/02/24 16:13:24 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby bapu 2014/02/24 16:13:09
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since I don't really have bass player hands. 




OK, that is about the funniest thing I've ever read about bass.
 
Have you ever seen the size of Jack Bruce's hands? His fingers must be .75" long. Seriously he has hands half the size of mine. But I'm less than half the player he is.
 




I'm glad to hear you're amused : ) ...but it's true, I tried long scale and a short scale basses. Short scale agreed with my fingers instantly. It's just very hard to find really good ones for a reasonable price.

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Re: Trilian with X3 2014/02/24 17:01:44 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby bapu 2014/02/24 17:25:30
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Will Trillian make my Alembic sound better?




Can't say I've ever heard one. I'm guessing it probably would though.  After all, if they were any good everyone would have one, no ?
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Re: Trilian with X3 2014/02/24 17:21:49 (permalink)
It is, NN. It's standard fare nowadays.
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Re: Trilian with X3 2014/02/24 23:39:46 (permalink)
I am remiss in not mentioning Greg at Orange Tree Samples... He has several beautiful bass sample libraries...is a one man shop and a joy to know/correspond with.  If it is just Bass you're looking for, check out Greg's site....http://www.orangetreesamp...ct=viewCat&catId=1
 
Much more of a solo genius like Kirk Hunter, Greg gives a lot for your money.  Just had a big sale but if you mention one of the loyal sonar forum members turned you on to him, he will more than likely give you a deal... He's done this for me...
 
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Re: Trilian with X3 2014/02/25 00:21:47 (permalink)
I have a few bass libraries.
 
All the NI Scarbee Fender/Musicman, OTS Rick.
 
TBH what I use them for is when I'm doing a cover, I sometimes get a MIDI of the cover and use the bass MIDI to drive my limited libraries to see which bass I'll use when I retrack my live bass. Since I have the Variax Line 6 bass that cover just about everything in my libraries plus a few I don't have.
 
If using the libraries doesn't lead me in the right direction then I start playing around with my basses.
 
Mind you, I don't generally like to cover my bass part with the exact replica of the song being covered. I like to tray and give it a more "modern" sound and flavor without straying too far afield.
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Re: Trilian with X3 2014/02/25 00:58:48 (permalink)
Noisy Neighbor - I have Trillian and like all my VSTi which have large libraries, installed on a separate disc - get a big, quick disc.
One thing, install the new disc BEFORE installation of any Spectrasonics program as it can be an issue to move them afterwards.
I had Trilogy before Trillian - I thought Trilogy was good - Trillian Brilliant.
 
Bapu - I see you have a Variax Bass - is this any good? I have a selection of Bass Guitars which I feel give me a good choice - My  main Basses are a Vigier Active, Musicmaster Stingray, an Epiphone Allen Woody, a Burns Nu Sonic from the 60's,  an old Acoustic Bass and an old Vox from the 1980's which I love, although it weighs about the same as my car!
I use a Variax Acoustic when writing - to get things to fit and help make a decision on what type of acoustic to use when I record the track properly - it would be great to do the same with a Variax Acoustic if its any good.
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Re: Trilian with X3 2014/02/25 01:28:43 (permalink)
The Rick in the Variax is passable.
 
The Hofner ain't bad. The Gibsons are pretty good. Since I have a P-Bass, I won't use that model but I sometimes use the Jazz. The upright is cool but I've only used it once. Of course the Alembic is not as good as the real thing .
 
If you find one snag it. I got one just before they were discontinued at a steal (and since it was a Christmas gift it really was a steal so to speak).
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Re: Trilian with X3 2014/02/25 07:07:15 (permalink)
I think I could have some fun with that MIDI bass I linked to above. It seems like it could be fun to drive some synth bass stuff with it.
 
I have been enjoying the tiny little Volca Bass analog synth I got last November. It's fun to turn the knobs and warp the tone.
 
I also noticed that the Moog Little Fatty has been on sale lately... I'm on a microphone kick, or I'd have one on order.
 
At some point I decided, that for myself, a regular old bass guitar was the quickest and most effective way to get the sound of a bass guitar down in a song.
 
I can get it done with just about any preamp but I do have some personal favorites. I also have a couple bass amps that make it really, really fun to play bass, but the preamps make it super easy to get a nice recording.
 
I also have the "must have" DOD FX 25B envelope filter pedal and a Electro Harmonix Micro Synth pedal that augment the bass guitar and make it sound synthy. 
 
best regards,
mike
 
 
 
 
post edited by mike_mccue - 2014/02/25 11:19:19


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Re: Trilian with X3 2014/02/25 10:35:03 (permalink)
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I think I could have some fun with that MIDI bass I linked to above. It seems like it could be fun to drive some synth bass stuff with it.
 
I have been enjoying the tiny little Volca Bass analog synth I got last November. It's fun to turn the knobs and warp the tone.
 
I also noticed that the Moog Little Fatty has been on sale lately... I'm on a microphone kick, or I'd have one on order.
 
At some point I decided, that for myself, a regular old bass guitar was the quickest and most effective way to get the sound of a bass guitar down in a song.
 
I can get it done with just about any preamp but I do have some personal favorites. I also have a couple bass amps that make it really, really fun to play bass, but the preamps make it super easy to get a nice recording.
 
I also have the "must have" DOD FX 25B enevelope filter pedal and a Electro Harmonix Micro Synth pedal that augement the bass guitar and make it sound synthy. 
 
best regards,
mike
 
 
 
 


I have two synth bass patches in my Variax bass. You can borrow them any time you want McQ.
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Re: Trilian with X3 2014/02/25 11:19:26 (permalink)
You are a good pal bapu.
 
Thank you!!!


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Re: Trilian with X3 2014/02/25 12:13:36 (permalink)
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You are a good pal bapu.
 
Thank you!!!


Did you want them in pure digital form or just on paper?
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Re: Trilian with X3 2014/02/25 12:27:25 (permalink)
Paper's good.


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Re: Trilian with X3 2014/02/25 12:38:14 (permalink)
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Paper's good.


I got rolls and rolls of it.
(went to Costco last week)
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Re: Trilian with X3 2014/02/25 13:23:51 (permalink)
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I am remiss in not mentioning Greg at Orange Tree Samples... He has several beautiful bass sample libraries...is a one man shop and a joy to know/correspond with.  If it is just Bass you're looking for, check out Greg's site....http://www.orangetreesamp...ct=viewCat&catId=1
 
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Orange Tree Samples would be an alternative. Unfortunately I only have the Kontaktplayer which I only use for the Scarbee Pbass. I can't spend the money for the full version at the moment.  

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Re: Trilian with X3 2014/02/25 13:29:20 (permalink)
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Paper's good.


I got rolls and rolls of it.
(went to Costco last week)




I should probably sign up for a roll a day. How about a subscription?


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Re: Trilian with X3 2014/02/25 13:44:24 (permalink)
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Noisy Neighbor - I have Trillian and like all my VSTi which have large libraries, installed on a separate disc - get a big, quick disc.
One thing, install the new disc BEFORE installation of any Spectrasonics program as it can be an issue to move them afterwards.
I had Trilogy before Trillian - I thought Trilogy was good - Trillian Brilliant.
 
Bapu - I see you have a Variax Bass - is this any good? I have a selection of Bass Guitars which I feel give me a good choice - My  main Basses are a Vigier Active, Musicmaster Stingray, an Epiphone Allen Woody, a Burns Nu Sonic from the 60's,  an old Acoustic Bass and an old Vox from the 1980's which I love, although it weighs about the same as my car!
I use a Variax Acoustic when writing - to get things to fit and help make a decision on what type of acoustic to use when I record the track properly - it would be great to do the same with a Variax Acoustic if its any good.
Cheers
Nigel
 


Nigel, thanks for your advise concerning the disc. I was assuming that would be the proper way to do it. I'm already thinking about my other libaries like Superior Drummer and so on... would I need to uninstall and reinstall all of those...? Got to find some info somewhere how to proceed with all my existing VSTi...

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Re: Trilian with X3 2014/02/25 13:51:23 (permalink)
The samplers that use large libraries usually let you install the app on the C:\ drive and let you install the library content on other discs.
 
If you move the library content to a new disc you may have to (usually have to) point the app to the new library location when you open old projects.
 
It usually works very well.
 
best regards,
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Re: Trilian with X3 2014/02/25 14:16:49 (permalink)
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The samplers that use large libraries usually let you install the app on the C:\ drive and let you install the library content on other discs.
 
If you move the library content to a new disc you may have to (usually have to) point the app to the new library location when you open old projects.
 
It usually works very well.
 
best regards,
mike


...so, I would just have to find the folder of an already installed sampler with the library in it, move it to the new drive and than point the app to it ...? that would be rather easy and a great relief... (sorry for asking computer dummy questions here, but I'm really not to handy in this kind of stuff...) I'm well aware of the procedure with a new install, though I've never done it due to a non existing 2'nd drive. 
Great help, Mike! Thanks!

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Re: Trilian with X3 2014/02/25 15:03:55 (permalink)
Yes, I imagine each sampler will be a little different but that's the general idea. You can get a good idea where the libraries are hiding by following the directory navigation when you go to load a different sample (or midi loop) set.
 
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