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SuperG

overkiller
Have you tried turning it up to eleven?  On a Mac?

On a Mac, I'd turn it up to 240.    Volts.     In the US. 

Going for the 'vile reek of brimstone' there SuperG/Violator?

I'll settle for garden variety sulphur, I can skip the theatrical type.  That, or boiling cabbage. 

Ah yes, quite right sorry...  music is about being serious all the time. Sorry about that...
nb I didn't see any sarcasm, but who cares anyway, the OP joined in quite brilliantly I thought but who cares when this thread should be about you ;).
 
p.s. Have you ever met a musician or seen Spinal Tap?
And where is your advice/answer to the OP's question?

whitejs
Most of the replies here are the very reason (self-fulfilling) that one gets those very sorts of replies: the learned, wise, kind and mature, self-secure users of this software have long-since abandoned this forum. 
 
It is amazing to me that the conveyers of such sarcasm and child-like (insecure children, mind you) responses are not clear within themselves that 1) it ruins the forum, and 2) that it makes them look like people with such limited lives that twitting on others on a software forum is meaningful and significant.
 
You sarcastic, ill-humored would-be musicians/technicians need to check yourselves.  If the world were full of your types, it would be a true and severe mess.

I think the reason answers of this sort were given were because the question is beyond the scope of this forum. We can't answer questions about style or creativity. We answer questions about how to use Sonar. Its not a music forum but rather a software forum. 
 
 You may disparage it if you like but I think the people that did respond did so in a light hearted way instead of reminding OP that the question was inappropriate and somewhat self aggrandizing. No one wishes to feed another's ego. It ain't our job.  
 
I'm editing this because it was address to the wrong person. (Thank you Alex). None the less I think its a proper post.

DumbKidFromHell

CakeAlexS
 
 
p.s. Have you ever met a musician or seen Spinal Tap?
 

NO!

I have, well these are the REAL druids anyway backstage Wembley Arena...
 

Now, this is the kind of thread I can sink my teeth into. Allow me to de-scabbard-ize (de-scabbard-ate?) my rapier and take a stab at this...

jkoseattleAnd yes, I already looked in the help for a "Make Music Sound Better" button.

There was one, but it was removed after version 6. Too many people were making amazing music and the record companies couldn't keep up. Perhaps you noticed the sharp decline in music quality around 2006?
 

jkoseattleI also thought there might be a slider where you can set how good you want your music to sound. Strangely, no luck.

I direct your attention to the comment above.
 

jkoseattleAlso, where is the "Make more commercial" option?

McCartney owns exclusive rights to this feature, it's derivatives, and off-shoots. Whenever someone writes a new algorithm, his company buys it before it's released. In other words, just forget about it. Ain't gonna happen.
 

jkoseattleThe piece is in D major. I have 6 Gb RAM.

Ah-ha! There's your problem!

Just remember the immortal words of Theodore Roosevelt (or one of his speechwriters): Do what you can with what you have where you are. Can't go wrong with that!

whitejs
You sarcastic, ill-humored would-be musicians/technicians need to check yourselves.  If the world were full of your types, it would be a true and severe mess.

And what a lovely mess it would be.
 
Oh, and you forgot to set your keyboard to sarcasm before typing your reply. A few people on here misunderstood.

@mettelus, 
 
I would never ever blow off what appeared to be a legitimate post - not in a million years - - quite the opposite, I have gone so far as to work with folks from half way around the planet, at crazy times in the middle of the night over the phone, to try to get their issues resolved.
 
Please go back and read that original post again - I thought it was quite a humorous post, and that is why I responded as I did, and I am quite sure the others thought the same as I did.
 
In his post, as just one example, he wants to make certain sections sound better, while deliberately leaving others sounding "bad".  And in another, rather than record a 4-MEASURE piano solo over again, he would like to use a "Make piano solo better" button.
 
Please do go back and read the post again.
 
Bob Bone
 

jkoseattle
I've been working on a project for a while now, it it's just not coming out the way I'd hoped. So I started poring through the online help to figure out what I need to do to improve it. Can anyone offer any tips on how to make this piece sound better?

And yes, I already looked in the help for a "Make Music Sound Better" button. I also thought there might be a slider where you can set how good you want your music to sound. Strangely, no luck.

1. when you ask to have this piece sound better !

A: do you mean how it is composed / played ?
B: or are you talking about the mix / Insrument's and sound quality itself ?

jkoseattle
For example, the bridge for this song doesn't have the same balance of optimism and disillusionment as the verse, perhaps it has a slightly more resigned feeling. Also, at the piano solo in the break it sounds like I'm phoning it in a little, or perhaps am embarrassed by the preponderance of 9th chords. And sure, I could go in and re-record a whole new piano solo, but it's 4 bars long, and so it would just be easier to click on an option somewhere called "Make piano solo better", or again, a "Piano solo quality" slider would be great.

Seems to me that you talk about the composing of the piece here right ?
I guess there will be no sliders or other that can just fix it like that, in sonar
there is a step sequencer in sonar, that u can use on most of
VSTi (virtual instrument ) to help out making beat or melody lines :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQpRpiWocCY 

jkoseattle
I would also like to be able to select a portion of music, say a clip or a region across several tracks, and then apply the "Make it sound better" option to only the selected events, for those times I want some of the piece to remain bad.
 
I'm wondering why these options are apparently buried so deeply into Sonar. Isn't making good music the whole point of the application? You'd think the tools for making it sound better would be front and center.

Also, where is the "Make more commercial" option?

I'm using Sonar X3 on Windows 7. The piece is in D major. I have 6 Gb RAM.

It is hard to give any advice, unless we can understand what you use and
if you work with midi only / audio only or both midi and audio.

If you can export the music piece, so we could have a listen to it
that would probably help us understand a bit better your problem too.

Export audio : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRbRr-0wwjQ 

Making music requires some knowledge of the music software we use, also how to play a
midi instrument and set up VSTi's etc, or and how to play a instrument if recording audio.

Then there's the mixing stage, with insert's / sends of EQ / compressor / reverbs / delays
and so on to ,enhance the overall sound.

Jan

timidi
Sonar has all the tools you need.
The 'sound better button' is disguised as the 'mute button'.
 
See if that helps.
 

And all this time I thought it was the Concrete Limiter.

bapu
REALLY??!!?? You really thought it was a serious OP?

Language is a funny thing...
 
 
See post # 39 above for a play-by-play breakdown of the some of the individual points in the OP
http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/2992395
 

Maybe I read his post wrong, but the OP seemed a little tongue and cheek to me.  Forgive me if I think someone looking for a "make more commercial button" and other similar phrases was just having a little fun.  It's not like anyone attacked him for his question.  We are musicians/hobbyists/etc..not mind readers.  Besides, "putting a little stank on it" like Ike said is offbeat but sound advice!  Ike may have been a total a-hole but he was a phenomenal judge of talent  who had a hand in launching more than Tina's career.  I would not listen to Ike on dating advice, but definitely would pay full attention when it came to music,

This is the X Serious forum.

After the fall of the Tower of  [forum posting] Babble.....
 
God invented the smiley. Use 'em.
 

Hi all,
 
Gosh, I'm both impressed and a bit confused, now that I read and am smiling at the humor here and now that I see that I'm not so sure the OP was serious in the first place!  My bet is that he was, but that the latter part of his post humorously lofted some sarcasm at us in a pretty warm way.
 
I would just ask folks to accept me saying "Never mind!" to my post, but I think there is still a grain of something that exists in this whole thing that is worth stating, and I do so with no intention of validating my original post, but rather in complete honesty regarding my impressions.
 
That is, my corrective slant was not based simply on this particular post, but on my years of reading this forum looking for technical guidance on Sonar issues.  I've seen more clique-like team-ups against posters on this forum than on any other I've viewed, and it has concerned me.  Sure, humor and wit have their place and there are no posts on this thread that aren't fun and clever, but quite often I've seen groups of friends on this site team-up and literally debase and deride new and, sure, naive posters to the point that it looks like a cheap fraternity of ten half-men trying to add up to one man by ganging against a poster for what seems to be the insecure goal of looking clever and being some kind of "gatekeeper" on the forum.  (Could a brickwall limiter or gate have kept that sentence from being so long?)
 
It's been shameful.  The Coffee House or whatever is probably more the place for showing one's colors and having beer brawls and nit-pik sessions.
 
Sure, this poster asked a question about composition qualities, and surely many would not resist the gate-keeper response of "That is not a question that should be asked in this section", but even that is something that should be said kindly and with the idea of each and every poster here being a potential "e-family" member.  Sounds corny, maybe, but in practice it would be a dream.
 
I am a firearms nut, and collect and converse on such on several forums.  You would be quite impressed and possibly not surprised to note that these forums are without question the places where the LEAST responsive abuse and disrespect are found, and I'm sure everyone here can figure that out.  The all know that in real life, or should I say "face to face", no one would be talking any trash or being cute or terse with anyone of like "holdings".  Well, we should all possibly be that way.  We don't know each other, but we should know that this world won't work well at all if we aren't that way.  From small involvements like this forum to how we treat our next-door neighbor, to how our country treats other countries.  Spite, disdain, smart-assness (my new word!) and alienation don't work.  It ends up on our porches in the long run, and sometimes in the short run.
 
In short, I've seen a whole lot of that here over the last four years, and I reacted to this post with that luggage pushing my words.  I can now see how many folks might have thought the original post was ENTIRELY tongue-and-cheek.  Crazy.
 
Best wishes to you ALL.  Intelligence and wit are abundant here, and I'm in the middle of trying to figure out why X3 gobbles up 4X more processor than Samplitude Pro X and Pro Tools 11, so I have to be honest and apologize for the bitter tone of my first post.  I stand by the content, as I've said here, but I fell into a bit of a harsh mode.
 
Jon