Moving VST plug-ins around manually usually works however; it can fail when a plug-in was installed using an installer program. Sometimes installers write information into the registry such as path information which will be broken when moving the files by hand.
 
The Cakewalk plug-in manager scans all the subdirectories in the scan path. Adding additional subdirectories to the directory tree is OK.

The plug-ins are being moved from their install location. It does not matter if they still reside in the same directory tree, it is still a move. As indicated earlier, most plug-ins can be relocated without issue. If the plug-ins have registry entries with locations written in them, the registry may need to be updated.

got it
i ran into a thought driving home last night that somewhat messes up my idea?
i can't really have a single folder for reverb because i have both 32 and 64 bit
so then i'll need a "reverb" and "reverb64" or something like that which semi-defeats the purpose
i hope cakewalk manager allows me to group however I want and that will be my solution :)
 
 
 
OK here we go!
 
i downloaded izotope vinyl last night and upon hitting the .exe it asked me where i wanted to put "it"
they suggested c>program files>izotope>vinyl
 
so i freaked out and hit cancel  =()
 
 
will this ask me later where to put the vst as e-mu proteus did?
or will it just put the .dll file under that path and then i'm screwed?
 
how do i answer the question the installer is asking me??
thanks as always guys truly appreciate your insight!
 
 

The general concencus is split your x32 and x64 base directories:
e.g.
<DRIVE:\>DAW_Plugins_32
- Rapture
--- rapture.dll
<DRIVE:\>DAW_Plugins_64
- Rapture
--- rapture.dll
 
Sounds like you wish to add a layer for Reverb, EQ, Compressors, etc
e.g.:
<DRIVE:\>DAW_Plugins_32
- Synths
-- Rapture
--- rapture.dll
- EQ
- Reverb
...
<DRIVE:\>DAW_Plugins_64
- Synths
-- Rapture
--- rapture.dll
- EQ
- Reverb
...
 
Mine are actually all under the one to 'top'
e.g.:
<DRIVE:\>DAW_Plugins
- Rapture32
--- rapture.dll
- Rapture64
--- rapture.dll
(Note: But because e.g. Rapture install only asks for the base directory and deploys 'Rapture' beneath, I had to employ the 'hack' to split it out to 32 and 64).
 
Regardless, I'd just put the x32 VST path in the x64 Sonar VST Scan Path as well as the in-built BitBridge feature will allow most of the x32 plugs to work in Sonar x64 mode. This is easiest seen in Browser>Plugins>Instruments - where x32 plugs are 'green' and x64 plugs are 'blue'. If it finds a double up x64 will take precedence.
 
x32 mode Sonar does not play x64 plugs - so just leave the x32 Sonar VST Scan Path pointing to x32 plugs. But it'll just ignore the x64 plugs if they are in the same path.
 
I think you know, but Scan Path denotes the 'top' of the tree. Any .dll beneath will be scanned and added if possible. If not, then in most cases it'll handle it, ignore and move on.
 
Re Q5: The line denoted whether the plug was a VST or DirectX - these seem to be split by separate sub-menus now ( are you on an older Patch Level? x3e is out :) ).
 
I should be able to post that "Good Tips" link after 3 days (tomorrow) - if you can't wait, Google "VST on Windows XLN" - first hit. (It's getting less exciting now with good tips in this thread).

Use VSTi.  The DXi version has been discontinued.
 
Are you using version 1.1?  There is an update (v1.2) that you can download here:
http://www.cakewalk.com/S...b/reader.aspx/20090428

I believe you are running 8.5. If this is the case, there is a separator in the menu with DX plug-ins above the line and VST plug-ins below it.

seed
...i'm pretty sure i'm updated... i'm going to exclude the DXi in the plugin manager...

If you had installed the 1.2 update the DXi would not be present.  Click on the word RAPTURE near the top right corner of the GUI to display the version number.

well....knowing how my installation went i surely won't be surprised if it somehow managed to stick around after updating
 
i've got the programs on one drive and the multisamples etc. on another
 
as the subject says....completely messed up lol  ;)
 

Kev999
You seem to be implying that later versions of Sonar are different in this respect.  I'm using X2 and the plugin menus here look the same as in earlier versions.

 
either that or perhaps the earlier versions didn't have the line?

yeah gotcha....this dang "you can't make another post so quick" thing is messing me up =P
 

Re Rapture:
I've had a bit of a play and think I can explain your situation (which ain't too bad, if an issue at all) ...
 
The Rapture install only asks for 2 locations:
1. An install location
---- for you E:\Program Files\Cakewalk\Rapture
2. A VST install location
---- under which it'll put \Rapture\rapture.dll
 (I tested on a 32bit Vista box ;) - I seem to recall my 64bit Win8 install asked whether you want to do an x32 or x64 install as an initial radio button check - hence still only asks for one VST location per install).
 
You don't get a choice where the Programs Tree goes (EG, MIDI, Programs, Sample Pool, SG). It goes to C:\ProgramData\Cakewalk\Rapture. (Actually, it probably goes to where the %ProgramData% environment variable is defined - you can check it via Run(Win-R)>cmd ; echo %ProgramData% ; exit ).
 
So your mate has simply chosen to install to your second drive, which is quite a 'normal' thing to do.
Is the speed of the drive noticeable? (I'd have thought 5400 rpm should work OK).
 
If you really wanted to change it you could do a (backup) uninstall/reinstall.
Take a note of your serial number first (click on the Rapture logo (top right)) - it's needed during installation.
Even if you don't have the install file, you should be able to download it from your Cakewalk Store Account (your serial number will be there too). (It's also retrievable from the registry - I can help, as I'm sure others can).
Or:
Issue 200 of Computer Music magazine (~$5 iStore, Google Newstand, Zinio) has the full version of Rapture.
 
RE: VSTs
[It appears I still can't post that link].
 
Yeah - a bit of an issue if things are all over the place.
BUT ... I've read advice NOT to do a full disk VST Scan. (Sonar can get hung/crash at startup).
 
I had my first play with Plugin Manager tonight. It looks like your organization can be handled with a Layout File (.pgl) - (top right). Sonar Studio has a layout similar to the one you've described for effects (X3 Studio Effects - C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Roaming\Cakewalk\SONAR X3 Studio\Plug-in Menu Layouts\X3 Studio Effects.pgl). They are also under C:\ProgramData\Cakewalk\... (search for .pgl).
 

You can import .wav directly into an Audio Track.
 
You'd store it in e.g, an Aethers directory in your Cakewalk Content > Audio Library
 
I see it comes in Kotakt format. Kontact 5 Player is a free download (I haven't tried it) ... obviously to lure you into the full product ;).

Yeah, that's what it looks like ... many sound bites to loop etc to create your own soundscapes. There may be some example compositions.
 
Dunno much about Dropzone. Loaded it to test I had it :).
 
Cakewalk Content will be easily found and likely auto directed to when you right click on an audio track and choose Import Audio. Also in Browser tree. Mine is top level C:\.

No - that's more likely the last place you navigated to / loaded from. Look for directories like Audio Library (and MIDI Library). It's just a common location to hold all your sound bites.