Great electric guitar (fuzz tone plugin)

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2014/03/31 22:43:32 (permalink)

Great electric guitar (fuzz tone plugin)

Anyone know a good one - that sounds real ! ! ! 
I have been using some roland/yamaha samples that I am not happy with it - it still sounds like a synthesizer with keys, as opposed to an electric guitar with a great fuzz tone.
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    Lynn
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    Re: Great electric guitar (fuzz tone plugin) 2014/04/01 12:27:22 (permalink)
    Which version of Sonar are you using?  TH2 that comes with X2 and X3 is pretty good.

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    Re: Great electric guitar (fuzz tone plugin) 2014/04/01 12:37:44 (permalink)
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    Re: Great electric guitar (fuzz tone plugin) 2014/04/01 12:40:23 (permalink)
    I assume what you want is guitar tones from midi notes? Real Guitar or Strum through any amp sim should do it!





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    Re: Great electric guitar (fuzz tone plugin) 2014/04/01 13:11:02 (permalink)
    Mokafix metal clone.  I needed a good fuzz/distortion effect once for bass and this worked great

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    Re: Great electric guitar (fuzz tone plugin) 2014/04/01 14:02:14 (permalink)
    Yes - I am looking for great distortion guitar samples, amp sims, etc. - from MIDI notes!
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    Re: Great electric guitar (fuzz tone plugin) 2014/04/01 14:30:17 (permalink)
    deswind
    Yes - I am looking for great distortion guitar samples, amp sims, etc. - from MIDI notes!




    Yes, samples of distorted guitar won't work since in the real world, the distortion happens after the strings have harmonized. You need a softsynth like RealStrat or RealLPC (maybe AAS Strum that comes with SONAR X3 will work? I dunno, never tried it) that emulates the way a guitar is played and then output the audio into an Amp Sim like Guitar Rig, Amplitube, Scuffham S-Gear (my favorite) or whathaveyou.





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    Re: Great electric guitar (fuzz tone plugin) 2014/04/01 14:58:30 (permalink)
    Check out some of the offerings on amplesound.net.  I think their various electric (and acoustic) guitar synths have become the best available.

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    Re: Great electric guitar (fuzz tone plugin) 2014/04/01 15:16:39 (permalink)
    A lot of it is in the playing technique. If you play the way a guitarist might actually play the part, a relatively mediocre sample through a decent ampsim can suffice, whereas even the best sampled guitar will sound like a keyboard if you simple hammer the line in like you might on a keyboard.
     
    It's worth spending some time learning guitar specific phrasings and articulations. Some plugins do help with this by offering short lines or automatic hammer-ons or bends and so on.
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    Re: Great electric guitar (fuzz tone plugin) 2014/04/01 18:16:27 (permalink)
    Sanderxpander
    A lot of it is in the playing technique. If you play the way a guitarist might actually play the part, a relatively mediocre sample through a decent ampsim can suffice, whereas even the best sampled guitar will sound like a keyboard if you simple hammer the line in like you might on a keyboard.
     
    It's worth spending some time learning guitar specific phrasings and articulations. Some plugins do help with this by offering short lines or automatic hammer-ons or bends and so on.




    +1 from me.
     
    Learn how a guitarist plays, and put it through a guitar amp/amp sim.
     
    Jan Hammer did some incredible playing using A Moog or a Fender Rhodes.  Listen to his album "Black Sheep" from the late seventies.  It is as much how /what you play as anything else.
     
    Someone (I think it was the "Times" newspaper) once asked Jeff Beck who his favourite guitar player was, and he answered "Jan Hammer".

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    Re: Great electric guitar (fuzz tone plugin) 2014/04/01 20:42:42 (permalink)
    +1 to all of the above.   Apparently a simple saw wave & a free ampsim might not be that horrible (this randomly appeared on my youtube page today): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gioyIzQVCqs
     
     
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    Re: Great electric guitar (fuzz tone plugin) 2014/04/02 05:23:11 (permalink)
    Even the clean guitar fro TTS 1 fed through an amp sim like TH1, Amplitube or Guitar Rig will sound more convincing than most fuzz and distorted guitar patches.
     
    There is a related thread here http://forum.cakewalk.com/Strum-Acoustic-vs-RealGuitar-m3017030.aspx
     
    The MusicLab Realstrat and Real LPC, Guitars from Ample Sound and Kontakt based products from the likes of Orange Tree Samples and Indiginus are all very good guitar VSTs. The add different articulations, strumming engines, chord detection techniques etc. to help you play like a guitarist.
     
    The "lead guitar" on the track in my signature is Realstrat through Amplitube.
     
     

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    Re: Great electric guitar (fuzz tone plugin) 2014/04/02 11:22:09 (permalink)
    I've got a DSF Guitars Soundpack for Sound Center. I was just playing around with Nylon Chords and Telecaster as a base.
     
    TH2 - THe Crunch, THe Lead, TH Recto, Knife 
     
    Lepoulin's Amps - esp LE456-A
     
    I just did a search on Google too and found Auraplug's Freetortion Plugins including specific 'fuzz tone' FX.
    (perhaps not as good as above (?)).
     
    But all sound OK to me. Agree with the technique stuff though.
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