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Anyone Have a Vocoder Plug-In Recommendation for Sonar?

A long time ago the FXpansion one worked well...so did the Orange Vocoder from Prosoniq, but then they stopped updating it for newer operating systems (however, there is hope now that zynaptiq has bought Prosoniq's intellectual property). Meanwhile...any suggestions?

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    Re: Anyone Have a Vocoder Plug-In Recommendation for Sonar? 2014/04/12 14:52:10 (permalink)
    MeldaProduction MVocoder
    May even go on sale this month, they are offering a plug-in a day at 50% off.
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    Re: Anyone Have a Vocoder Plug-In Recommendation for Sonar? 2014/04/12 14:54:40 (permalink)
    Thank you! Looks good. Any other suggestions?

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    Re: Anyone Have a Vocoder Plug-In Recommendation for Sonar? 2014/04/12 14:58:44 (permalink)
    I have used Synthmaster and TAL-Vocoder (and Pentagon I of course) before getting the MVocoder
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    Re: Anyone Have a Vocoder Plug-In Recommendation for Sonar? 2014/04/12 15:00:08 (permalink)
    You can also use the Pentagon synth:
     
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWdYrxXo0xA
     
    Best part is that it's included in SONAR.
     
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    Re: Anyone Have a Vocoder Plug-In Recommendation for Sonar? 2014/04/12 18:13:34 (permalink)
    +1 to that, Pentagon is what I use.

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    Re: Anyone Have a Vocoder Plug-In Recommendation for Sonar? 2014/04/12 18:24:14 (permalink)
    +1, to Pentagon. I try not to "recreate the wheel" unless I have to. SONAR Producer is a pretty complete musical creation package.

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    Re: Anyone Have a Vocoder Plug-In Recommendation for Sonar? 2014/04/12 18:29:31 (permalink)
    TAL-Vocoder II works great as a freebie - you may be after something more(?)
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    Re: Anyone Have a Vocoder Plug-In Recommendation for Sonar? 2014/04/12 18:36:22 (permalink)
    Razor has a great vocoder built into it's effects.

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    Re: Anyone Have a Vocoder Plug-In Recommendation for Sonar? 2014/04/12 18:38:55 (permalink)
    never not had pentagon completely fail on me. worthless synth. 

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    Re: Anyone Have a Vocoder Plug-In Recommendation for Sonar? 2014/04/12 19:02:02 (permalink)
    I've done some research but can't seem to find the answer...I have a feeling the answer is no but could a vocoder be used on something like this without sounding too synthy http://www.soundiron.com/instruments/choirs/requiem-light-player-edition/
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    Re: Anyone Have a Vocoder Plug-In Recommendation for Sonar? 2014/04/12 19:02:35 (permalink)
    Thanks everyone. I've used Pentagon a lot for "cross-synthesis" effects like "drumcoding," but am looking for something with more resolution so the voice is very intelligible. Guess it's demo download time...and thanks for reminding me about Razor!

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    Re: Anyone Have a Vocoder Plug-In Recommendation for Sonar? 2014/04/12 21:51:00 (permalink)
    I ran across some Audacity videos a couple of month ago but cannot seem to find the best one now. There are quite a few for giving a "robotic" sound to voice to varying levels that leave the audio intelligible.

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    Re: Anyone Have a Vocoder Plug-In Recommendation for Sonar? 2014/04/13 05:22:30 (permalink)
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    never not had pentagon completely fail on me. worthless synth. 


    You need to specifically install Pentagon 'As Administrator'

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    Re: Anyone Have a Vocoder Plug-In Recommendation for Sonar? 2014/04/13 06:13:42 (permalink)
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    never not had pentagon completely fail on me. worthless synth. 

    Not to derail the thread, but I've really enjoyed the Pentagon synth. Never failed on me. Try the above suggestion.
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    Re: Anyone Have a Vocoder Plug-In Recommendation for Sonar? 2014/04/13 07:22:58 (permalink)
    Funny that Vocoder Plug-ins are not more popular. There doesn't seem to b that many, and nothing new. Penatgon manages to have a form, I wonder why other softsynths manufactures haven't done the same. Hip-Hop and Rnb seem to be keen on the sound, disco, house and funk too. The auto-tune sound dubbed as 'the vocoder sound' which is clearly not, I would have thought would have made Vocoders more sort after. Maybe that sound is close enough, satisfies, or maybe many don't realise the potential of 'The Vocoder Sound'.
     
    It's a shame Melodyne doesn't export Pitch data in midi translation, not only would it be great for making synths and samples have more movement, but combined with a great sounding vocoder, could add another dimension to the synth voice.  

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    Re: Anyone Have a Vocoder Plug-In Recommendation for Sonar? 2014/04/13 08:27:40 (permalink)
    Not sure what you mean by "Melodyne doesn't export Pitch data in midi translation".  You can export notes as MIDI from Melodyne, but I'm not sure that's what you mean.

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    Re: Anyone Have a Vocoder Plug-In Recommendation for Sonar? 2014/04/13 09:05:54 (permalink)
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    Not sure what you mean by "Melodyne doesn't export Pitch data in midi translation".  You can export notes as MIDI from Melodyne, but I'm not sure that's what you mean.


    Melodyne also shows the pitch modulation for vibrato and, slurs etc, but as yet this isn't transmitted in a Midi translation. Just Midi note, Duration and Velocity.

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    Re: Anyone Have a Vocoder Plug-In Recommendation for Sonar? 2014/04/13 12:23:19 (permalink)
    Waldorf's Lector. Nice piece of sw.

     
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    Re: Anyone Have a Vocoder Plug-In Recommendation for Sonar? 2014/04/13 12:32:27 (permalink)
    I've been using Waves Morphoder but it's pretty dated by now and its included synth is very limited. Would love some better options, like some others I'm completely puzzled why these aren't among the most popular plugs.
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    Re: Anyone Have a Vocoder Plug-In Recommendation for Sonar? 2014/04/13 12:44:49 (permalink)
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    Waldorf's Lector. Nice piece of sw.

    That looks tasty, I stumbled on this http://www.tubeohm.com/TubeOhm/VOCODER-II.html , but the demos vids are a bit angry. There is a demo version, that could be worth checking out.
     
     
     

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    Re: Anyone Have a Vocoder Plug-In Recommendation for Sonar? 2014/04/13 14:41:31 (permalink)
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    Waldorf's Lector. Nice piece of sw.

    That looks tasty, I stumbled on this http://www.tubeohm.com/TubeOhm/VOCODER-II.html , but the demos vids are a bit angry. There is a demo version, that could be worth checking out.
     
     
     


    nice.  kinda like a tricked out version of reason's bv512.

     
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    Re: Anyone Have a Vocoder Plug-In Recommendation for Sonar? 2014/04/13 14:58:43 (permalink)
    Craig, don't forget about the Reaktor stuff (I'm assuming you own Reaktor). They have a "classic vocoder" effect in their library and I think a few others in either the built in library or the user library.
     
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    Re: Anyone Have a Vocoder Plug-In Recommendation for Sonar? 2014/04/14 11:43:23 (permalink)
    I was going to do a project last year that was to heavily use Vocoders and I picked up Vocodex
    http://www.image-line.com/plugins/Effects/Vocodex/ 
     
    I was looking for something that had high intelligibility, came in both 32 & 64 bit and either free or reasonably priced.
    Vocodex seamed to fit the bill (and was also 50% off at the time).
     
    The project ended up getting shelved so I never ended up putting it (Vocodex) through it's paces.
     
    At some point project may get restarted so I am interested in seeing what you finally end up choosing.
     
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    Re: Anyone Have a Vocoder Plug-In Recommendation for Sonar? 2014/04/14 11:56:59 (permalink)
    I have the original version of SONiVOX's Vocalizer and it did a really good job on any audio source you fed into it. They now have version 1.1 and advertise it with:
     
    "Vocalizer Pro 1.1 is a totally unique MIDI controlled effect processor that can transform any audio track, any audio source, or the output from any VI in your DAW host into an unbelievably lush, musical, performance instrument. It’s unlike anything you’ve ever heard.
    Part instrument, part processor, Vocalizer Pro 1.1 is the ultimate instrument expansion tool. Offering endless sound-sculpting possibilities, Vocalizer Pro 1.1 is ready to harmonize, modify, fortify, enhance, and re-synthesize any instrument—or any sound—in ways you never thought possible. Two rows of MIDI-mappable pads provide unbelievable performance control."
     
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    Re: Anyone Have a Vocoder Plug-In Recommendation for Sonar? 2014/04/14 18:37:55 (permalink)
    +1 on Melda's vocoder. For best results, though, it's best to use it with a high number of slices, which implies high resource usage. So "freeze" is your friend.
     
    I too have Sonivox's vocalizer, and I did get some great sounds out of it. Unfortunately, even though Sonivox are still selling the original version, they won't provide 64-bit compatibility for it, and instead try to force people to upgrade to "Pro". Not an issue in Sonar, I know.
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    Re: Anyone Have a Vocoder Plug-In Recommendation for Sonar? 2014/04/14 19:37:50 (permalink)
    Melda and tal were 2 I was gonna mention.. you can do some nice stuff using alchemy by camel IRC. depends if you strictly want a vocoder.
     
    also Waldorf Lector but you use a dongle probably.. as I use largo.
     
    http://www.pluginboutique.com/categories/43-Vocoder
     
    may have a few more.. I do use things to "mangle" sounds etc. but not strictly vocoders.. and some have really bad interfaces, but thats good as it keeps others away :D
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    Re: Anyone Have a Vocoder Plug-In Recommendation for Sonar? 2014/04/15 01:53:38 (permalink)
    There seems quite a lot of demos with the Vocodex, due to FL. I don't understand why more manufactures don't make more of Youtube. Was trying to find out yestrerday what was next on the horizon for AAS, if they were going to release a new string studio (which does need an overhaul) or model a new range, but they seem inept at social media, and the facebook page is hardly worth having.
     
    B&H seem to have a the best price on the Vocodex
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    Re: Anyone Have a Vocoder Plug-In Recommendation for Sonar? 2014/04/15 02:00:31 (permalink)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gru_8U0yltI
     
    Melda's tutorial is excellent.
     

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    Re: Anyone Have a Vocoder Plug-In Recommendation for Sonar? 2014/04/15 05:21:55 (permalink)
    Wow, that MeldaProduction MVocoder plug in is very impressive!
     
    I didn't think there was a vocoder that could match or surpass the Orange Vocoder, but MVocoder does!
     
    I'm gonna have to get it! I've been looking for a plug in package that would be comprehensive for composing, mixing and mastering and truely high quality, as well. Actually, after reading on MeldaProduction's  site in recent days past and watching those tutorials on MVocoder, today, I am hypnotically impressed by MeldaProduction! I think I may, eventually, go ahead and buy their MTotalBundle.


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