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Re: eBay hacked - change your password ASAP 2014/05/23 20:45:42 (permalink)
I guess this is yet another benefit of being flat broke without any credit, ya?  No one can take what you don't have... 

 
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Re: eBay hacked - change your password ASAP 2014/05/24 04:56:14 (permalink)
No but they can take your identity, create a bunch of new accounts, rack them up and all the bills come to you.
 
That's why the "real" me has no online identity. The best defense is a good offence, right? My entire online existence is made up using aliases, false impersonations, dead relatives, and stol...
 
never mind.
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Re: eBay hacked - change your password ASAP 2014/05/24 13:55:59 (permalink)
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No but they can take your identity, create a bunch of new accounts, rack them up and all the bills come to you.
 
That's why the "real" me has no online identity. The best defense is a good offence, right? My entire online existence is made up using aliases, false impersonations, dead relatives, and stol...
 
never mind.




And that is exactly why I always use YOUR identity Craig! 

 
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Re: eBay hacked - change your password ASAP 2014/05/24 14:36:45 (permalink)
Hi,
 
At this point I DO NOT recommend changing the password.
 
If there are bots tracking the connections (which would have happened!), your changing of the information will get tracked and busted yet again. Specially now, when it's obvious.
 
I find it strange. They tell you they got hacked and then tell you to login again ... and we must think that hackers are stupid!
 
Unbelievable! 

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Re: eBay hacked - change your password ASAP 2014/05/24 14:51:31 (permalink)
Moshkiae
Hi,
 
At this point I DO NOT recommend changing the password.
 
If there are bots tracking the connections (which would have happened!), your changing of the information will get tracked and busted yet again. Specially now, when it's obvious.
 
I find it strange. They tell you they got hacked and then tell you to login again ... and we must think that hackers are stupid!
 
Unbelievable! 


 
If a company tells you your password has been compromised and you don't change it, you have only yourself to blame.

 
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Re: eBay hacked - change your password ASAP 2014/05/24 15:06:07 (permalink)
I changed it to the same one it used to be just to mess them up.

 
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Re: eBay hacked - change your password ASAP 2014/05/24 15:06:53 (permalink)
Moshkiae
Hi,
 
At this point I DO NOT recommend changing the password.
 
If there are bots tracking the connections (which would have happened!), your changing of the information will get tracked and busted yet again. Specially now, when it's obvious.
 
I find it strange. They tell you they got hacked and then tell you to login again ... and we must think that hackers are stupid!
 
Unbelievable! 




Um, if you have bots on your computer, it has nothing to do with ebay getting hacked and you shouldn't be doing anything on your computer - except getting rid of the bots.
 
 
And "bots", whatever you think that means, cannot monitor everything that happens inside a network without being noticed, if they can at all.  
 
Unless you're living inside a movie that is, because those are typically written by people who have no clue how things really work.

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Re: eBay hacked - change your password ASAP 2014/05/24 15:06:59 (permalink)
I changed it to the same one it used to be just to mess them up.

 
I know you did. I just changed it back for you.

 
Jyemz
 
 
 



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Re: eBay hacked - change your password ASAP 2014/05/25 06:58:40 (permalink)
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No but they can take your identity, create a bunch of new accounts, rack them up and all the bills come to you.
 
That's why the "real" me has no online identity. The best defense is a good offence, right? My entire online existence is made up using aliases, false impersonations, dead relatives, and stol...
 
never mind.



And that is exactly why I always use YOUR identity Craig! 





I'd be very careful with that. You have know idea who you're dealing with....
 
No, really. Today I may be CraigB. But who knows, tomorrow maybe CraigA or CraigC or CraigD or CraigE or...
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Re: eBay hacked - change your password ASAP 2014/05/25 10:37:45 (permalink)
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If a company tells you your password has been compromised and you don't change it, you have only yourself to blame.




NOPE. Freeze that account forever. And that company will likely not get my business again!
 
One online vendor processed a sale 3 months later after the account was closed. BofA (Amazon) caught it and called, and I reported the transaction being closed.
 
The problem is that these companies won't go after the folks that charged an account fraudulently, and the only option left is to freexe the credit card, which has Amazon upset with me. Why? ... I told them! Until those folks get punished for their lack of control or insatiable need to rob people, I won't renew the Amazon card.
 
It's their loss and business. And I think that Amazon needs to make public the companies that are robbing people out in the open. That should stop them cold, because they would lose business left and right!
 
The solution lies in your hands. But you DO NOT KNOW how good hackers are, and why the federal government eventually hires many of these people. It's because they know code inside out and you don't. They know things about the internet and connectivity that most admins have no idea about.
 
And we keep thinking these folks are stupid?

As a wise Guy once stated from his holy chapala ... none of the hits, none of the time ... prevents you from becoming just another turkey in the middle of all the other turkeys! 
  
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Re: eBay hacked - change your password ASAP 2014/05/25 12:55:55 (permalink)
MoshkiaeBut you DO NOT KNOW how good hackers are, and why the federal government eventually hires many of these people. It's because they know code inside out and you don't. They know things about the internet and connectivity that most admins have no idea about.
 



Oh you're an admin now?
 
The reality is that in most cases hackers don't break in, they trick someone into letting them in. Which is much easier, because people are conditioned to click on stuff without regard to security issues and SW companies and legitimate web sites unfortunately play a major role in this conditioning. And often, once hackers are inside, security is more lax because the systems are designed to be protected from "external" threats, not "internal" ones. 
 
And most of the actual "hacking" break ins involves simply a lot of extremely tedious work to search for holes in existing things that are well understood, not magic spells based on some kind of secret knowledge. In the past, this meant hackers were talented misfits with emotional issues, and spy agencies, but now there is organized crime with a profit motive.
 
The trickiest part is probably doing something nefarious without being detected, but many places simply aren't looking for security breaches except for maybe at a few key points.
 
But the bottom line is ebay, Target and many other high profile breakins could have been prevented - or at least caught much earlier - with better implementation and enforcement of very basic security principles.

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Re: eBay hacked - change your password ASAP 2014/05/27 15:04:37 (permalink)
And almost a week later, I've finally received an e-mail from eBay... 

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Re: eBay hacked - change your password ASAP 2014/05/29 12:09:50 (permalink)
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 If a company tells you your password has been compromised and you don't change it, you have only yourself to blame.




Bull! You CANCEL the account immediately to prevent any re-checks and tracking. It is also likely that your own computer has a tracking cookie that is helping.
 
What makes you think that your piddly little computer, or mine for that matter, has better security than a large company with so many credit cards?
 
The best protection is for this company, and any others, to lose a million customers over night and then they will take their security more seriously, than they have previously. But us thinking that our OWN connection is safe, and will not be tracked ... c'mon ... as a hacker the first thing you do is track the connections! How else are you going to get "there"?
 
And NO, I'm not an admin, but live with one that makes 130K per year! And he is about security! Just being around him, even makes me paranoid to not fool around with Linked and Facebook and other gunk out there, which I have not gotten into as yet. While I do not hear from him, about a lot of these things, I know his systems at the places we have worked together, have never been compromised and one attack, ended up in a prosecution by the FBI.
 
His personal machine for playing around in the Facebook or Linked folks is a Mac, as far as I know.
 
Take your choice. Be smart!
 
Go ahead and change your password! Good luck!
post edited by Moshkiae - 2014/05/29 12:11:51

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Re: eBay hacked - change your password ASAP 2014/05/29 12:13:25 (permalink)
This news has been out there, but why did I just receive an email from Ebay that I needed to change my password?  Seems like it would be too late, since precautionary measures are now being taken to circumvent the issue.  Very slow response time in my opinion.  I just made a purchase and had no idea at the time.  My account could have already been violated by the time I received word from Ebay.
 
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Re: eBay hacked - change your password ASAP 2014/05/29 12:19:24 (permalink)
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But the bottom line is ebay, Target and many other high profile breakins could have been prevented - or at least caught much earlier - with better implementation and enforcement of very basic security principles.
...



If not "basic" at least much better defined and employed. But I can't say I'm seeing the security systems get better, but these won't get any better until these large companies start punishing these hackers and other companies abusing your credit card without your knowledge. These names need to be made public so others will be less likely/wanting to lose customers that fast!

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Re: eBay hacked - change your password ASAP 2014/05/29 12:21:10 (permalink)
Pretty sure my ebay was compromised. I made a purchase the day before I heard the news.
Lately I've been getting lots of spam. (which is very unusual).
 
 

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Re: eBay hacked - change your password ASAP 2014/05/29 12:22:00 (permalink)
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This news has been out there, but why did I just receive an email from Ebay that I needed to change my password?  Seems like it would be too late, since precautionary measures are now being taken to circumvent the issue.  Very slow response time in my opinion.  I just made a purchase and had no idea at the time.  My account could have already been violated by the time I received word from Ebay.
 
-Erin

 
Since you are in "software" (so it seems), I would at the very least look at the headers on the email?
 
Anyone can send an email and say it is from eBay ... heck, you can even learn to spoof from Wiki! It's the oldest trick in the book for cryin'out loud!
 

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Re: eBay hacked - change your password ASAP 2014/05/29 12:24:14 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby SteveStrummerUK 2014/05/29 13:28:53
I've been regularly getting an email from apparently Ebay asking me to change my password.
 
I suppose I should get an Ebay account first, before changing anything huh?  

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Re: eBay hacked - change your password ASAP 2014/05/29 12:35:12 (permalink)
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But the bottom line is ebay, Target and many other high profile breakins could have been prevented - or at least caught much earlier - with better implementation and enforcement of very basic security principles.
...



If not "basic" at least much better defined and employed. But I can't say I'm seeing the security systems get better, but these won't get any better until these large companies start punishing these hackers and other companies abusing your credit card without your knowledge. These names need to be made public so others will be less likely/wanting to lose customers that fast!




Companies don't want you to know that they've been hacked and will generally only acknowledge it if they have to - i.e. because they not only got hacked but customer information got compromised in the process.
 
Security can get better if companies just put a priority on it. I would expect that over time there will be less and less holes in SW for hackers to get through, so the main way in will (continue to) be tricking users into letting them in.
 
But that problem is hard to solve when seemingly every web site (including this one) adds additional scripts to track users, browsers are set up to trust too much by default and make it difficult to surf with things are more restricted. And worst of all, users are constantly trained to click "OK" to install stuff to view content on legitimate web pages.

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Re: eBay hacked - change your password ASAP 2014/05/29 13:14:14 (permalink)
I'm not an admin, but live with one that makes 130K per year!

why is this supposed to impress me?
 
I'll not divulge my annual income so that you aren't embarrassed by this statement.
 
oh wait!  it's embarrassing anyway!

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Re: eBay hacked - change your password ASAP 2014/05/29 13:15:26 (permalink)
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I've been regularly getting an email from apparently Ebay asking me to change my password.
 
I suppose I should get an Ebay account first, before changing anything huh?  


yes, and make sure and tie your new required paypal account to my bank in Nigeria. 

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Re: eBay hacked - change your password ASAP 2014/05/29 13:16:39 (permalink)
I changed my password right away...only problem is I forgot what it was.

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Re: eBay hacked - change your password ASAP 2014/05/29 13:17:59 (permalink)
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I changed my password right away...only problem is I forgot what it was.


I did the EXACT same thing!!! lol!

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Re: eBay hacked - change your password ASAP 2014/05/29 13:23:54 (permalink)
Well they can hold us in Nigeria with a knife to our throats and we won't tell.

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Re: eBay hacked - change your password ASAP 2014/05/29 13:28:15 (permalink)
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Well they can hold us in Nigeria with a knife to our throats and we won't tell.


I wonder if we both used the same password?  hmmm...

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Re: eBay hacked - change your password ASAP 2014/05/29 13:35:38 (permalink)
 
I see that eBay recommend that if you use the same password on other sites, you change those too.
 
Considering they own PayPal, I'm wondering if there's something they're not telling us

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Re: eBay hacked - change your password ASAP 2014/05/29 13:40:04 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Beagle 2014/05/29 14:15:13
Beag- We may never know that one. I would say the chances are slim. Would yours have had something to do with a cooked part of the pig? Hmmm. 
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Re: eBay hacked - change your password ASAP 2014/05/29 13:46:45 (permalink)
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I've been regularly getting an email from apparently Ebay asking me to change my password.
 
I suppose I should get an Ebay account first, before changing anything huh?  


yes, and make sure and tie your new required paypal account to my bank in Nigeria. 


Pfffft.....who needs Paypal.........I should be getting my inheritance check from my Nigerian friend anyday now......(I've already sent my bank info to him).

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Re: eBay hacked - change your password ASAP 2014/05/29 14:14:12 (permalink)
the problem is,
the only experts here,
are the hackers.
 

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Re: eBay hacked - change your password ASAP 2014/05/29 14:45:18 (permalink)
I know an Admin who's unemployed, they're not doing great, just 0K...

 
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