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July 09, 14 3:54 PM (permalink)

How to "compress" MIDI dynamic range? (solved...thanks guys!)

Howdy,
I have a MIDI piano track that I used the velocity slider on to reduce the velocity to a softer timbre...the higher velocity notes are just right but the lower velocities are almost inaudible.
I really don't want to go through the whole piece and make the adjustments note by note.
IIRC there's a way to set the highest and lowest velocity but I can't find it in the reference guide...can someone refresh my memory please?
Thanks very much,
Randy
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Re: How to "compress" MIDI dynamic range? July 09, 14 4:03 PM (permalink)
This may be oversimplified, but would using a compressor on the audio output work? I will only "edit MIDI so far" before I do the rest of the mixing in the audio side of things (my patience with PRV is very limited).

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Re: How to "compress" MIDI dynamic range? July 09, 14 4:07 PM (permalink)
The Velocity MFX can set a velocity range with the Limit slider. There are CAL scripts written before the Velocity MFX was developed which do the same thing.
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Re: How to "compress" MIDI dynamic range? July 09, 14 4:14 PM (permalink)
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Re: How to "compress" MIDI dynamic range? July 09, 14 4:24 PM (permalink)
mettelus- I thought of that but judging by the few notes I did adjust I want the difference in timbre also (not just volume).
 
scook- It must have been a cal script I used years ago (that I was able to set the lowest and highest velocity) but I can't recall what it was called.
Anyway, I'm guessing you mean something other than the slider in the TV (just below vol and pan) that I already tried.
I got no results searching the guide for velocity mfx,  velocity midi effets, etc.
Can you elaborate please?
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Re: How to "compress" MIDI dynamic range? July 09, 14 4:26 PM (permalink)
Ahhh Scotty me friend...I'll try that now...thanks!
 

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Re: How to "compress" MIDI dynamic range? July 09, 14 4:30 PM (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby mettelus July 09, 14 5:16 PM
It is an MFX plug-in (illustration from http://www.cakewalk.com/Documentation?product=SONAR%20X3&language=3&help=Plug-ins.3.html )

The fourth slider Limit can be set to a high and low value.
 
Insert into the MIDI FX bin. F1 over the UI will bring up the help. Sometimes the help screen opens behind SONAR.
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Re: How to "compress" MIDI dynamic range? July 09, 14 4:36 PM (permalink)
Oh my!
Thanks scook, I'll have to check out all of the MFX (I guess it didn't show up in the manual because I was putting velocity in front of everything).
Than you very much sir,
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Re: How to "compress" MIDI dynamic range? July 09, 14 6:19 PM (permalink)
Hey Scott,
Sorry man but I'm confused...following the instructions you supplied I enter a minimum and maximum in the velocity boxes (54 to 108) and click ok. The dialogue then disappears and immediately pops up again with 0 and 127 as min and max respectively with everything under "special events" at the bottom right checked and greyed out.
I enter the values again in the velocity boxes and hit ok again but nothing changes.
What the heck am I missing?
Thanks very much,
Randy
 
BTW scook, it seems the velocity mfx doesn't deal with minimum, only maximum ...unless I'm just not understanding it either.
 

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Re: How to "compress" MIDI dynamic range? July 09, 14 6:25 PM (permalink)
 The Limit slider sets a ceiling and a floor. Try grabbing the bottom of the slider and dragging up to set the bottom limit?
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Re: How to "compress" MIDI dynamic range? July 09, 14 6:37 PM (permalink)
Yay scook!!!!
Sorry, I didn't even see the bottom slider...works great!
Thanks bud,
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Re: How to "compress" MIDI dynamic range? July 09, 14 7:13 PM (permalink)
I think the second window in the interpolate process is the action. The first is the selection. I think there's also a way to do this directly from the event panel in the control bar. 

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Re: How to "compress" MIDI dynamic range? July 09, 14 9:11 PM (permalink)
Yep, the first window selects the range of velocities you want to affect, in this case, the entire 1 to 127 range, so you would leave those alone. Then in the second window set the Min and Max to your chosen range.
 
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