Dim Pro Multisample Not Found

I've just bought a new computer - a 64-bit i7 running Win 7 - downloaded the software and programs again and installed them all to the default directories as specified by the installers. The problem I'm having is that, when I try and load any sounds from the Dimension Pro>Expansion Pack 2>Grooves directory within the Dim Pro program, I get the error 'Multisample Not Found'.
 
I have found similar discussions here (http://forum.cakewalk.com...ot-found-m1670416.aspx) and here (http://forum.cakewalk.com...oundquot-m2661925.aspx) which have raised similar issues, but any solutions found by the authors of those discussions are unclear to me. I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling the expansion packs to no avail. I have never had any other instances of Sonar installed on this machine - it's brand new, and I have not moved any files or folders from their default install locations. I also had the same problem with the Dim Pro Expansion Pack 2 on my previous computer, and had issues with the Digital Sound Factory packs as well, just like Steve Strummer mentions in the discussion cited above, although I have not tried installing the DSF packs on my new computer yet. I find it unreasonable that I should have to muck around with the registry from a clean install. Please help. 

If you have installed things to the correct place, I think you have to hit F5 to rebuild the presets.
 
Bob Bone

Any other suggestions? Please...

Thanks Bob.
In regedit:

Multisamples Folder = C:\Program Files\Cakewalk\Dimension Pro
 
 
I did a Windows search for hh_bonusbeats and got the following results:

File Folders = C:\Program Files\Cakewalk\Dimension Pro\70 - Drum Loops

SFZ Files = C:\Program Files\Cakewalk\Dimension Pro\Multisamples

PROG Files = C:\Program FIles\Cakewalk\Dimension Pro\Programs\Expansion Pack 2\Grooves

Also, PROG Files = C:\ProgramData\Cakewalk\Dimension Pro\Programs
 
 
Do I need to move the SFZ files up from the Multisamples folder to the Dimension Pro folder?

Hi Bob, thanks again. I might have just figured something out. I don't have multisamples for any of the sounds which show up within Dim Pro in Sonar (in the Expansion Pack 2>Grooves directory), and the only Expansion Pack 2 multisamples that I do have in the C:\Program Files\Cakewalk\Dimension Pro folder of my computer, are ones that don't show up within Dim Pro in Sonar.
 
For example, in my C:\Program Files\Cakewalk\Dimension Pro folder, I only have hh_bonusbeats_90_01, 06, 12 and 21, whereas in Dim Pro, I see 03, 04, 05, 07, 08, 10, 11, 13, etc. So, there's also some missing from both. I only seem to have the PROG files for the latter ones - the ones which show up in Dim Pro - but not the SFZ files. And, these PROG files are only found in my ProgramData folder: C:\ProgramData\Cakewalk\Dimension Pro\Programs.
 
Could you confirm whether you have the entire sequence of hh_bonusbeats_90 files in your Dim Pro program, and that they play okay for you?

Hi Bob,
 
I'd just finished making a list of all my program locations before I came to the realisation of my previous post. I may have rushed into posting, thinking I'd found the problem. The following is the list I made before I wrote my previous post:
 
Both my Contents Folder and Multisamples Folder in the Registry Editor are set to C:\Program Files\Cakewalk\Dimension Pro, the same as yours.

In that folder, I see the following:

C:\Program Files\Cakewalk\Dimension Pro\Multisamples\01 - Grand Piano
C:\Program Files\Cakewalk\Dimension Pro\Multisamples\02 - Drums
C:\Program Files\Cakewalk\Dimension Pro\Multisamples\03 - Organs

etc., the same as you.

In the folder C:\Program Files\Cakewalk\Dimension Pro\70 - Drum Loops, which, I believe, contains the Expansion Pack 2 files that won't play on my computer, I see the following files:
 
[ loop slices ] folder
dl_80_k01_lp02.sfz to dl_100_k07_lp04.sfz
hh_bonusbeats_80_07.sfz to hh_bonusbeats_110_15.sfz
hh_kit01_80_atmos.sfz to hhkit10_90_loop04.sfz
jw_100's
pc_80_fxmix2.sfz to pc_110_fingercymbals.sfz
 
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As I said in the OP, I haven't moved any files around, and I installed everything to the default location. I think I'm just going to try and re-install Dim Pro and the Expansion Packs and see what happens. Can you confirm that all the files from your 70 - Drum Loops folder appear in the Dim Pro program and that they all play okay? I appreciate your help with this, Bob.

Just got back from fixing several computers - WAY too tired - I will look at all of this first thing in the morning.  Thanks for the posted details - hang in there.
 
Bob Bone
 

OK - couple of things.
 
1.  What version of Dimension Pro are you working with?
 
2.  Is it possible you had antivirus software running during your download of the Dim Pro files?  Sometimes downloads get corrupted this way.
 
3.  Review this thread: http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/2949550
     In the above thread, compare the download file sizes against what you have on your system.  I would like you to list the file sizes YOU downloaded.
 
3.  When you did your 'F5' refresh, did you first make sure the Browser was open?  If not, fire up Dim Pro again, open the patch browser, and then hit 'F5' to refresh it.
 
Bob Bone
 
 

Thanks for your perseverance, Bob.

I also have 65 files in my C:\Program Files\Cakewalk\Dimension Pro\Multisamples\70 - Drum Loops\[ loop slices ] folder, each containing a number of flac files of about 10-50kb each.

I'm using Dim Pro version 1.5.

I did have AV software running during my download, and I think this seems the most likely culprit of the problem.

My Multisamples folder in C:\Program Files\Cakewalk\Dimension Pro is currently at 3.35GB. The original Dim Pro Setup file that I installed from is 3.067GB. The Expansion Pack Zip file is 201.623MB.

The browser was open when I pressed F5.

I guess I'll have to try and download it again without the AV software running.


Paul P,

Sonar isn't crashing for me. Some of the multisamples cannot be found.


Thanks guys. I'll let you know how it works out.

I've got:
04_Dimension_Pro_1_5_Setup = 3.067 GB
Dimension Pro Free Expansion Packs 1-3 = 201.623 MB

OK I would go ahead and download the Dim Pro 1.5 setup and Expansion Packs 1-3 files again, with your antivirus temporarily suspended.
 
Once you are done with the downloads, turn your antivirus back on, then check the MD5 Hash Values of what you just downloaded against what Cakewalk has published for the MD5 Hash Values for those files.
 
The Cakewalk published MD5 Has Values for X3 are on this page:
 
http://www.cakewalk.com/Support/Knowledge-Base/2007013359/SONAR-X3-Download-Installation-Instructions
 
For the above, click on the link at the bottom for X3 Producer to expand the download files, which will also show the MD5 Hash Values for each of the download files.
 
You can use the following site to generate MD5 Hash Values for each of the zip files you download:
 
http://onlinemd5.com/
 
Please do the above and post back.
 
Bob Bone
 

I thought I just said that?  :)
 
I wish I would have skipped all of the earlier dialog and just went to the downloads - we took the long way around to get there.
 
Bob Bone
 

Luke73

Paul P,

Sonar isn't crashing for me. Some of the multisamples cannot be found.

I appreciate that.  I only mention it since one of the files you listed was "pc_110_fingercymbals.sfz" and that is one of the few I've tried that crash Sonar for me and at least one other person.  It won't crash DimPro standalone, only within Sonar.
 
Just in case you get things located, only to have Sonar then crash on you...
 

Here is some documentation from the Dim Pro 1.5 help file:
 
Groove Programs (Dimension Pro Retail Edition Only)

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The Dimension programs in the Musical Grooves or Drum Grooves folders contain MIDI patterns that trigger audio patterns in each of these programs and can be dragged into your host project. For example, using Project5, you can drag the MIDI patterns into the Arrange pane, and open them in the Editor if you want to change the cycle of sample triggering in the pattern.
Dimension will alert you with a pop-up balloon when you first load a program that contains a MIDI pattern. In addition, a MIDI pattern icon appears in the top right corner of the multisample window when there's a MIDI pattern ready to drag and drop.

To Drag a MIDI Pattern from Dimension into the host's Track viewOpen a program from the Musical Grooves folder or the Drum Grooves folder.Drag the MIDI pattern icon to your Dimension track in your host application.Double-click or open the pattern in your host to view it in a MIDI editor.Rearrange the notes in the pattern, if you want to trigger the program samples in a different order or rhythm.You can trigger the whole groove with the MIDI note C3, and you can trigger each slice of the groove with the notes C4 going up chromatically. Using the Mod Wheel causes the groove or slice to play backwards (try automating this on a per/slice basis). Also, the notes between C2 and C3 will trigger the groove in different keys. Try using the MIDI pattern from one groove to trigger another groove. 
 
Perhaps the above helps?
 
I cannot figure out how to get Dim Pro to use anything but ASIO for a driver mode, so I still cannot test things out.
 
Bob Bone