@Mudgel - thanks.  
 
Regarding #5 I had posted earlier, and you had commented on - I agree, it was not typically something I would normally do, but my request was truly a personal one, concerning a thread I had initiated, that had nothing to do with any capacity of this new Forum Host role.  
 
Normally, if a thread has sort of run its course, I have once in a while jumped in and poked fun at something or whatever.  In this particular thread, there were still folks actively adding to the thread's original purpose, and I did not want to derail that.  
 
Even then, I only politely asked if the thread could be left for its original topic.  I hadn't gone after anyone - I actually wished them the best in the next sentence, and just asked that they take off-topic dialog to a new thread.
 
All I can do is reiterate that regardless of some number of folks accepting roles as forum hosts, the details of what that role is and how it will be implemented are still being worked out.  
 
Whenever the Cakewalk staff complete their preparations, it is my understanding that some sort of announcement will take place, and will spell out the details at that time.  I do not know when that will be.
 
The forum host role is intended to assist both the forums and the Cakewalk staff - if it were not, then I wouldn't have accepted the role.
 
My entire purpose for being present in this forum is to assist where I can, and for me to receive assistance and education along the way.  Nothing whatsoever will change that.  I have a deep appreciation for both Cakewalk/Sonar and for the community of folks in these forums, and nothing will change that.  :)
 
Bob Bone
 
 
 

I for one love X3 and I encourage all that have put off upgrading to do so now. I think Bob has done a great job on this thread dealing with sarcastic remarks that if thought through would not have been made. 
 
One thing that has always been the case on these forums is an OP has every right to ask people to stay on topic. There is no law that requires it, however good manners would dictate that we do our best to keep things on topic.   
 
If one does have a question that is not relevant to the OP there is nothing wrong with starting a new thread. Every member has that ability and that right.

Shouldn't you all have started a new thread to discuss this ?

Anderton

royarn
Its still the same price on the store that its always been £119 here in the uk for producer.

Actually on this page, it shows £59 for upgrade from X2 Producer to X3 Producer, £79 from any version of Producer, and £239 from any version of Studio. 

Sorry but I've been trying to reply to this since you left it, but server errors have stopped me posting anything, but if this works then thanks for the link, why they cant change price on the store I don't know, but I've been checking there often hoping for a buy now get X4 for free when its out.


Roy

Thanks Robert.

emeraldsoul
If I upgrade to X3e for $99, I'll gain that sidechaining but I'll have to figure out new comping with the take channels or whatever they are called . . .

 
Just follow the example on how to do "speed comping" in the documentation. You'll never look back...
 

I already own licensed versions of Melodyne and AD2 - if I upgrade, and X3 automatically installs the Sonar versions of Melodyne and AD2, do my existing licenses get screwed up?

I don't have a definitive answer, but I have Editor installed and wanted to downgrade temporarily to Essential to see if a technique I wanted to write about could be done in Essential. I couldn't find a way to do it. Then I thought aha! I also have Studio One Pro installed, and it came with Essential so I'll just try that. However, when I called up Melodyne it showed up as the Editor version, even in SOP that didn't come with it.
 
So based on this, it would seem that if Celemony sees that something has already been installed, it skips over making any changes. But this is not a definitive answer.

emeraldsoul
I run X1d Producer, love it sort of. Very much a serious weekend hobbyist.
 
I would stay with X1d, except it apparently doesn't and won't sidechain with third party apps. If I upgrade to X3e for $99, I'll gain that sidechaining but I'll have to figure out new comping with the take channels or whatever they are called . . .
 
 . . . I already own licensed versions of Melodyne and AD2 - if I upgrade, and X3 automatically installs the Sonar versions of Melodyne and AD2, do my existing licenses get screwed up?
 
I'm on the fence - - - 
 
thanks,
-Tom
 
Win7/quad core i7 3.4/32 gb ram

I had an existing installation of Meoldyne Essential (came with Studio One) and that installation wasn't screwed up by installing X3. As for Addictive drums, just don't nstall it as it needs to be done via their website in any case. hope that helps you. By the way, both products are the full commercial versions and not some cut down version. They are not locks to Sonar in anyway.

emeraldsoul
So I might upgrade - but the "undo" problem scares me. I like to make a lot of impulsive mix decisions (i.e. "mistakes") - - - if your control-z and it leaves your last turd standing, but undoes a move three moves back, how do you handle this?

That's not the issue; ctrl-Z/undo works exactly as expected. The bug is that that the listing in the Edit History can be out of sync with the undo moves you've done. I haven't looked into it that deeply because when I have used the Edit History to go back lots of steps, it's always worked...but it's not something i use very much. Usually I just need to do a bunch of ctrl-Zs to get where I want to go. If I need to really go back far, I just load a previous version (I "save as" often).

Thanks for the post.
 
I had run across that $19.99 price for the basic X3 in some other retail web pages.  It is the same price that is offered on the Cakewalk site for coming to the basic X3 version.
 
Pretty good deals - X3 is great - I use Producer Edition, but X3 in any flavor is still quite stable and a good version to have.
 
Bob Bone