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I think that the quest that I have been on as spanned several years now. I came to the realization that I will probably never play again in a situation where I will require anything near 50w of tube power. Lord knows, cranking it in a Church Worship service situation is not going to fly. I have been on a quest to down size and still have the tone I am used to.
Maybe 5-15w is really what I am after.....but 5w can still be VERY loud in power tube territory. 5w and the Webber, maybe what is needed. 😀
Kenny, it was several years back that I messed around some with a Marshall Class 5 and I liked it. They have discontinued them since. I have never really messed with a Champ much, but maybe I need to spend a little time with one. Are there any recommended Champs more than another model Champ? I know there are quite a few. The EC Champ is out of my budget, I'm sure.
When I played guitar with Andrae Crouch for about 2 years all I ever used was my Fender Super Champ ….
I never even had to go up past volume 3 or 4 , sometimes the sound man would give me a direct box and run my line out into the board ….The Super Champ ( original SC ) does have a line out and the tone is to die for ….
Andrae's Church was a very nice size…. Large ….lol
I mention that because I was playing in a " genre / musical envirionment " that corresponds with the type of work you are doing ….
In the 80's I worked at Manny's Music in the guitar dept , at the time we carried the whole Mesa Boogie line , Fender , Marshall , Peavy, Trace E…. G…K… , Roland , I'm probably forgetting some brands …
anyway I played out of everything the years that I worked there and the absolute favorite amp I wanted to buy was the Mesa MK II ….I couldn't afford it ….my other favorite was the Fender Super Champ
every day I would play out of the Super Champ in the store and then compare it to the Mesa …
the difference in price was a grand and for the life of me I could not hear a thousand dollar difference
I wound up getting my Super Champ about 31 years ago …it is the only piece of gear that I own that to this day every time I have plugged my guitar into it the people I was playing for or working for went wow …..
this has happened every time ….
anyway lets see if we can get you up to speed on whats out there …
If you ever see a Rivera Super Champ try to play out of it….
Champs are some of the coolest amps out there
The Fender Vibro Champ is a genuine sleeper , and it has a clean tone to die for ….
http://vibrochamp.org I've seen them in the 400 dollar range every so often ….
here's a champ wiki , good if you feel like reading up on what been out there …
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fender_Champ I hope to get one of these some day ..it is the Super Champ w out the push pull dirt channel ….
as a mater of fact I use my SC as if it was this amp ..set clean w an OD pedal for boost / dirt
http://wgs4.com/fender-champ-ii-one-rare-bird I have giged with the Marshall Class 5 and it is a loud 5 watts , it was very easy to play over the drums …
it is built sturdy like a good Marshall should be ..it has a nice heavy duty cabinet and the speaker it comes with works well …a lot of people tried out all kinds of speakers and wound up going back to the stock speaker ….
the combo has a switch that cuts the power for low volume dirt ….at home I preferred to leave it on high power and throw a vintage SD1 from the 80's in front of it …it effing growled even at low volume using that approach …
I bought mine new a GC for a 4 th of July sale 3 or 4 years ago for mid 3's …..every so often I see them go for 250 to 400 used they are out there ….it's a great amp …it breaks up to soon if your used to fender style cleans ….
probably the least impressive amp I own is the Champ 600 …
I say least impressive because every well know amp builder I have ever talked with has snubbed it
I love the amp and I wound up playing out of it for years as a home amp , also it makes a great amp to bring out to play and jam with other musicians as long as you don't have to play with a drummer that has to play loud or has no self control …
there are a lot of people that love it ( guitar players ) I'm in that camp because of one reason alone
the tone is there ….build quality or origin of build aside …I will say it again the tone is there ….
other than a Tube change I have left mine bone stock and I am very happy with it …..
I don't do E Bay anymore and when people start quoting me E bay prices I laugh in their face and I set them straight
cash talks and bull$hit walks …go ahead and try to sell it on E bay …that's an easy way to give E Bay and Pay Pal an easy hundred bucks or more
if they have something I want to buy I will show them the money …
then I will go old school Desert style on their a$$ and make like I just crossed the Desert on a two humped Camel when it comes time to negotiate the price
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there is a lot of cool amps out there , you never know , if you are patient , you may run across somebody that took real good care of their amp , maybe they need a little cash for an unexpected car repair or they may want to free up some space for other gear .
Kenny
post edited by kennywtelejazz - 2014/12/16 01:04:47