New Sonar installation: what is new, what is old? *Requires Professional or Platinum?

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New Sonar installation: what is new, what is old? *Requires Professional or Platinum?

I know many of you do not have it- this is a joy of being early adopter- not everybody knows what I am talking about- if you do, please, help me figure this out.
 
There is stuff that sounds like we already had it but then I am not sure. Sonar X3 installer came in 3 parts so it is hard to tell what was in what part. New Sonar has individual elements that can be installed on demand, but I dont know if I already have it or not. It looks familiar, but I am not sure- can you tell if it is new or updated or old? Thank you.
 
"The Classic Creative Suite is made up of powerful and easy to use Cakewalk effects including Multivoice Chorus/Flanger, Classic Phaser, Tempo Delay, Compressor/Gate, Para-Q, HF Exciter, Alias Factor, and Modfilter. *Requires SONAR"
 
"Channel Tools, LP-64 Multiband, and LP-64 EQ are all included in this download. *Requires SONAR Professional or Platinum"
 
"The full Nomad Factory Blue Tubes bundle includes 6 EQs, 6 dynamic plugins, 6 effects, and 1 reverb giving you all the necessary tools to enhance your projects with that vintage tone and color. *Requires SONAR Professional or Platinum
 
The Boutique Suite contains SONAR's most advanced collection of plugins including TH2 Producer, Breverb SONAR, Bifilter2, VX-64 Vocal Strip and PX-64 Percussion Strip *Requires SONAR Platinum
 
A collection of FX Chain presets authored by Craig Anderton. *Requires SONAR and all included plugins.
 
XLN Audio Addictive Drums 2 Producer Includes Addictive Drums 2 engine.  The perfect way to get into AD2 and 3 ADpaks.
I already have AD2 installed, do I need to change serial number to get my extra packs?
 
Why is there no instructions from Cakewalk and we have to figure everything out on our own?
 

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    Royal Yaksman
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    Re: New Sonar installation: what is new, what is old? *Requires Professional or Platinum? 2015/01/18 01:20:32 (permalink)
    I was coming from X1 Production Suite, X2 Producer and X3 Producer, prior to installing Sonar Platinum. All I had to install was Sonar Platinum (just the core program) and Anderton's FX Chains. The rest you would already have if you are coming from X3 Producer. So if you already have all the stuff from X3? When you click on Sonar Platinum and it opens its contents. Just click on 'Sonar Platinum' and select "Install." Then select Anderton's FX Chains and select "Install," once more. Bam! Good to go!
     
    The "Install All" option, will re-install everything that you may already have? ie. The Classic Creative Suite, Channel Tools, LP-64 Multiband, and LP-64 EQ, The full Nomad Factory Blue Tubes bundle, The Boutique Suite, etc.
     
    If you have Addictive Drums 2 already? No need to run the install on the AD Producer Bundle. Just register the serial number in your account at XLN, then it will let you select your products (3 kits, 3 midi packs and 3 kit pieces.) Once that's done, all that is left to do is run the XLN licensing centre to download and install the new kits and pieces. The midi packs don't need to be downloaded, as they just unlock in AD2 and are ready to use!

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    Re: New Sonar installation: what is new, what is old? *Requires Professional or Platinum? 2015/01/18 01:55:33 (permalink)
    Thank you for clear reply. I am wondering why some features say, "Required Sonar" and others say, *Requires SONAR Professional or Platinum". I am wondering if there was some updated elements. This is why I was not sure. Why would they say *Requires SONAR Professional or Platinum" on some if it did not change- they should of say, "Required Sonar". Comments? Thank you.

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    Re: New Sonar installation: what is new, what is old? *Requires Professional or Platinum? 2015/01/18 02:13:32 (permalink)
    I think that means that they are only available to use in the Professional or Platinum versions of Sonar?

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    Re: New Sonar installation: what is new, what is old? *Requires Professional or Platinum? 2015/01/18 12:59:37 (permalink)
    If you want the offline help, also choose the "Help & Tutorials" option in the CC.
     

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    Re: New Sonar installation: what is new, what is old? *Requires Professional or Platinum? 2015/01/18 13:15:45 (permalink)
    I made a list of all the new stuff with links to the promo vids as well as the Cake descriptions and my own descriptions. This is however old now and there is a lot more information on each item but I'm not going to spend all day updating it. Still that is almost ALL the new stuff and it tells you which version everything comes with.
     
    http://forum.cakewalk.com...one-post-m3145468.aspx
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    Re: New Sonar installation: what is new, what is old? *Requires Professional or Platinum? 2015/01/18 20:10:23 (permalink)
    Beepster, looks like tremendous work on your part, thank you. I don't need to know what new stuff I have (lol). I do not know about half of hidden functions of it, so I would not know difference. I just need to know if I need to install anything else other than New Sonar itself. Some features listed in my initial post say, " *Requires SONAR Professional or Platinum". This makes me think that I need to install it because it is new.  

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    Re: New Sonar installation: what is new, what is old? *Requires Professional or Platinum? 2015/01/18 20:50:24 (permalink)
    Are you saying that "requires Professional or Platinum" is in the description of the feature or in the documentation?
     
    In either of those instances, it means that the feature is only included in the Professional or Platinum versions and is not a part of the purchase price of the less complete versions.
     
    If you are saying this is some type of error message from the program, I do not know, but I would expect it means the same thing.
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    Re: New Sonar installation: what is new, what is old? *Requires Professional or Platinum? 2015/01/18 22:25:41 (permalink)
    Alartabartfast, are you reading the thread from last post to first? It explains it in the first post. The descriptions that listed in first post come from installation in Control Center. When you click on something you considering to install, it has description. Some of them (see first post) say, "Requires Sonar". Some say, "*Requires SONAR Professional or Platinum". Royal Yaksman (see few posts up) said- all we need to install is New Sonar program only. I am wondering if he may be incorrect because then why would it say, "*Requires SONAR Professional or Platinum" on installation option? To me- it means- it is exclusive to Sonar Pro or Platinum, which means- we should install it.

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    Re: New Sonar installation: what is new, what is old? *Requires Professional or Platinum? 2015/01/19 10:29:49 (permalink)
    so if i have X3 Pro, but update to Sonar Professional, would i lose my ability to use my plugins that came with X3 Pro?

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    Re: New Sonar installation: what is new, what is old? *Requires Professional or Platinum? 2015/01/19 12:28:19 (permalink)
    I don't know about any plugins from X3 that not included with Platinum. Also nothing would disapear if you dont uninstall X3.
     However, I am trying to figure out if we need to install anything else other than the program itself- there are like 7 other elements (see initial post for description). I would home that Cakewalk reps would reply to this. I should not be asking this for days...

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    Re: New Sonar installation: what is new, what is old? *Requires Professional or Platinum? 2015/01/19 12:38:46 (permalink)
    The reason I posted the list is so you could cross reference it. Install the main program using Custom Install and it will show you all the stuff that comes with it. You should see which plugins from my list are included in the main installer. It should be everything. The extra content packages are usually for the synths that you probably already have and the loops and stuff.
     
    Also by doing a custom install you can untick things in the main program installer you already have or don't want.
     
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    Re: New Sonar installation: what is new, what is old? *Requires Professional or Platinum? 2015/01/19 13:42:38 (permalink)
    Your list contains features of the program, not installation options. Did you install New Sonar already? If you install it, you will see what I am talking about. The descriptions in my first post are taken from Command Center. As I say- Sonar used to come as 4 parts installer. Now it comes as many parts. This, for example:
    "Channel Tools, LP-64 Multiband, and LP-64 EQ are all included in this download. *Requires SONAR Professional or Platinum"
     
    I do not use Channel tools, so I have no memory of what I used to have. I dont know. Is it part of X# or is it new for New Sonar only? If it was part of X3, why then they would say, "*Requires SONAR Professional or Platinum"? This statement, to me, implies that it is NEW feature, otherwise, it would say, "Requires Sonar".
     
    "The full Nomad Factory Blue Tubes bundle includes 6 EQs, 6 dynamic plugins, 6 effects, and 1 reverb giving you all the necessary tools to enhance your projects with that vintage tone and color. *Requires SONAR Professional or Platinum"
     
    I know there used to be something Blue: Blue reverb I remember. I do not know if there were 6 EQs or 5 EQs and how many dynamic plugins there used to be. So are ant of these new? Again- it says, *Requires SONAR Professional or Platinum.
     
    This one: The Boutique Suite contains SONAR's most advanced collection of plugins including TH2 Producer, Breverb SONAR, Bifilter2, VX-64 Vocal Strip and PX-64 Percussion Strip *Requires SONAR Platinum. This sounds like something we already have, so why in a world it says, "Require Sonar Platinum?"
     
    I think Cakewalk needs to explain it. They want to make it sound attractive for the new customers, and if we had no Sonar installs, it makes sense- everything is new. For old users (yeah, us old boring demanding users with expectations of software to work), it makes no sense. This needs to be explained better. These are individual custom installations.

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    Re: New Sonar installation: what is new, what is old? *Requires Professional or Platinum? 2015/01/19 14:00:48 (permalink)
    WARNING: I do not know if this is correct because I do not own the new Sonar and I am not a Baker.
     
    Okay I think I see what they did (and no I do not own the new Sonar so I have not installed it). Your last post is making things more clear.
     
    I think what they have done is separate all the elements so that once you get the core program as they release stuff on a monthly basis people can go into their accounts and just download the new stuff instead of downloading everything each time.
     
    So... YOU need to figure out what you already own then compare it to the list of available downloads in the Command center. If you see something you don't have download it otherwise leave it alone.
     
    Now this actually makes my list even MORE useful to you because the things on that list will be the things you want to look for in the download section of your store account. If you do not see those things in your download account then it means they are included in the main program so you do not have to worry about it. Just look for them inside the program to make sure they are there to be sure. If not then I don't know... ask again or contact Cake.
     
    As far as "Requires Professional/Platinum"... well which version did you buy? If you bought Platinum then you do not need to worry about this AT ALL. You can download everything.
     
    If you only bought Professional then you cannot download the things that say "Requires Platinum". However that doesn't mean if you already OWN that particular thing from X3 (like TH2 Producer) that it won't work. Your old copy should show up in your plug-in browser if you still have X3 installed.
     
    Those warnings are only for new users who do not already own that stuff. If you own it you can use it.
     
    The ONLY things that would be a problem I think are if you bought Sonar Artist and wanted to use your old ProChannel effects. Artist does NOT have ProChannel so you can not use your old ProChannel plug ins.
     
    Now I am only basing this on your post and what I have read about transferring plugins to the new Sonar.
     
    I DO NOT KNOW FOR SURE IF THIS IS ALL TRUE!!! But I'm pretty sure that all those warnings are saying is you have to have the correct version to download and use those particular plugins (because you do not own them yet). If you already own them then you can just import them from your old installation.
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    Re: New Sonar installation: what is new, what is old? *Requires Professional or Platinum? 2015/01/19 14:07:30 (permalink)
    Okay... you know what would be easier?
     
    Which version of X3 do you own? Studio or Producer?
     
    What version of the new Sonar did you buy? Artist, Professional or Platinum?
     
    If you owned X3 Producer and bought Sonar Platinum then all you need to download and install is:
     
    The main program.
     
    Then look at my list of new stuff in Sonar Platinum. If anything is missing from what you just installed look at your store account page downloads to see if it is there. If so download and install it.
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    Re: New Sonar installation: what is new, what is old? *Requires Professional or Platinum? 2015/01/19 16:16:53 (permalink)
    I did not see the same fine-grained plugin selection options in the install for Platinum, compared with older releases.
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    Re: New Sonar installation: what is new, what is old? *Requires Professional or Platinum? 2015/01/19 16:24:16 (permalink)
    Beepster, there is no other hidden options I can look at. What I posted in the first post is all descriptions they offer. I have to make decision to download or not based on what I posted. I have Sonar X3 Producer. I upgraded to Platinum.
     
    If you know that Artist does NOT have ProChannel, you know waaaay much more than I do. I never heard of any of these options because I was busy with school and not in a mixing stage. I have like 20 songs waiting to be mixed and mastered- I was only doing production/recording occasionally. Now I am back. So....
     
    I think it is Cakewalk's job to stop playing games and write clearly: "Download if you do not have Sonar Producer" or "Do not download if you have Sonar Producer". I know what they about to say, "We are not playing games- we did not know users don't know what they have". I do not have any idea what I have. If you can be so kind, would you please, look at a list in fist thread and let me know if these features sound familiar and included in Sonar X3P or if they sound to you as exclusive to New Sonar and needed to be downloaded. That would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
     
     

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    Re: New Sonar installation: what is new, what is old? *Requires Professional or Platinum? 2015/01/19 16:42:03 (permalink)
    Okay, the only thing in your first post that is NOT in X3 Producer would be:
     
    A collection of FX Chain presets authored by Craig Anderton. *Requires SONAR and all included plugins.
     
    and MAYBE the Addictive Drums.
     
    BUT I only say Addictive Drums because you SAY you have AD2 but unless you bought that from XLN Audio separately from Sonar then you may not have the really nice version being offered.
     
    THe Addictive Drums thing is confusing though. I think if you already have an XLN account that if you just apply the new serial number and reg codes Sonar gives you then you may be able to download everything you need directly from your XLN account instead of downloading from Sonar. If you see those numbers in your Cake account then you should be able to use them without downloading. If not you may have to download the AD2 files to get them.
     
    Honestly when I installed X3 the Addictive Drums installation was the most annoying part of it. XLN customer support is really good though so if you run into trouble email them.
     
    So... EVERYTHING else you posted in your first post was included in X3 Producer except for the Craig Anderton FX Chains.
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    Re: New Sonar installation: what is new, what is old? *Requires Professional or Platinum? 2015/01/19 17:02:38 (permalink)
    Ok, thank you. This is what I was asking- for somebody who knows to take a look and make sure we install everything we need. I appreciate it. Yeah, I had AD 1 and I bought upgrade to 2. I already registered the new serial and got producer pack. Thanks again for clarification.  

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