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Re: MOTU Ultralite AVB 2015/11/21 16:11:02 (permalink)
For me the hardware that made the biggest difference in usable low latency was dumping the Nvidia GT630 for an AMD Radeon R7 240.  Even after all the basic tuning (BIOS, no Windows 10 tunes) I would get an occasional click even running just a single instance of Ivory with EZDrummer and Trillian. Looking at LatencyMon I would constantly see the Nvidiakrnl (something or other Nvidia) as the culprit with the highest DPC routine and it would spike even though the overall DPC was very low and the programs graphs never went into, or anywhere near the "red. It was enough to give a highly intermittant soft click once in a while. I had none of the Nvidia garbage installed. Just the graphics driver and it was basically the same under Windows 8.x even with my Delta card.
 
Swapping the Nvidia with the AMD and bingo no more clicks at all. I've never been an ATI/AMD fan but in this case it was definitely a better choice for my set up with the x58a board.
 
Some days I wonder if I should just buy a Mac and be done with all this tinkering?
 
 
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Re: MOTU Ultralite AVB 2015/11/22 06:43:45 (permalink)
I'm using the internal Intel graphics (HD4000), as I thought that being integrated would require less work from drivers. I don't think 9but who knows for sure) that's causing any problems here.
 
Some days I wonder if I should just buy a Mac and be done with all this tinkering?

That's a good point - but Macs have their own issues (ie El Capitan compatability etc).
the tinkering can get boring - that's why I'm keen to just pick a setting that works,and get on with things.
Then I can always tinker every once in a while when I get the urge...
 

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- Intel i7 3770K 3.5GHz
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- Asus P8z77-V mobo - using the integrated Intel graphic card (HD4000)
- MOTU Ultralite AVB audio interface
I usually use ASIO set at 64 or 128 samples
er - that's it I think...
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Re: MOTU Ultralite AVB 2015/11/22 11:35:27 (permalink)
Yea, the Mac users are really struggling with El Capitan. I haven't followed it closely but the update really seems to have caused some serious problems for them with incompatibilities. Contrary to urban legend, Apple updates to major versions are not without their problems. The thing is, once the dust settles the Mac tends to work very well with a minimum of fuss.
I'm a tinkerer from way back but I tend to tinker when I'm pondering a new purchase and then after I work the bugs out, I leave it alone as I prefer to work on my music.
With regard to latency and oddities like DPC and clicks, pops etc it does seem that the Mac camp has a lot less problems than us Windows users. There are people running all kinds of resource intense plugins using MacMini or iMacs which on paper, spec wise, are blown away by even the most average Windows box. 
 
That's something that puzzles me to this day.
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Re: MOTU Ultralite AVB 2015/11/22 12:02:40 (permalink)
It's probably because they control what runs on a Mac - where we have all kinds of (some good, some bad) drivers etc... ;-)

John Braner
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- Intel i7 3770K 3.5GHz
- Windows 10 Pro - 64 bit
- Cakewalk by BandLab x64
- Reaper x64
- 16GB RAM
- Asus P8z77-V mobo - using the integrated Intel graphic card (HD4000)
- MOTU Ultralite AVB audio interface
I usually use ASIO set at 64 or 128 samples
er - that's it I think...
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Re: MOTU Ultralite AVB 2015/11/23 14:16:21 (permalink)
jbraner
It's probably because they control what runs on a Mac - where we have all kinds of (some good, some bad) drivers etc... ;-)


Absolutely!  The walled garden that Apple forces the end users into does have some advantages in that they pretty much control everything so chances are things will just work. Operating system upgrades not withstanding. 
So as long as the user doesn't mind doing things the "Apple way", it pretty much works.
Windows offers more choice and thus the potential for more conflicts and problems.
And Linux offers the most choice but unless it's for a server or a highly specific application, all of that choice leads to confusion and nothing working very well at all.
That's Linux's problem.
 
 
 
 
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