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Re: Adding programs to the SONAR Utilities Menu - a new tool 2015/06/26 11:15:51 (permalink)
In one case will the form be filled out automatically. The program fills out the form for the Tool itself and then only:
  1. when the "Update registry" option is enabled and
  2. the entry for the tool does not already exist and
  3. the "Add this Tool to SONAR" button is clicked.
 
The Name field and the Menu Text are required but are normally blank.The name field is the name of the registry entry. The menu text is what appears in the SONAR menu. I am guessing you overwrote the Tool Editor Exe Path with the Audacity Exe Path.
 
Also the default for the program is not to change the registry directly but create .reg files.
 
You may want to start over.
Make sure "Update Registry" is set to Yes
Delete the Tool Editor entry
Create a new entry for Audacity
Create a new Tool Editor entry (if you want one).
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Re: Adding programs to the SONAR Utilities Menu - a new tool 2015/06/26 11:27:22 (permalink)
Coolio! Thanks!

 
 
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Re: Adding programs to the SONAR Utilities Menu - a new tool 2015/06/26 11:35:55 (permalink)
I think this is what happened:
 
After setting "Update registry" to yes you
clicked on "Add this Tool to SONAR" then
clicked the browse button to right of Exe Path and
added the path for Audacity then
clicked Submit
 
At least that is one scenario which would cause the Tool Editor entry to launch Audacity.
Clicking "Add this Toll to SONAR" button only fills the form for review. The Submit button must be clicked to actually update the registry.
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Re: Adding programs to the SONAR Utilities Menu - a new tool 2015/06/26 11:50:43 (permalink)
Yup.
You may have a career in forensics! Or at least Sonar forensics....
 
Now it's working too good. It opens the selected track, but then tries to open another window and returns a Region error. I close it and everything seems ok with the "good" window, just that extra bit is a little odd.
post edited by charlyg - 2015/06/26 12:18:20

 
 
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Re: Adding programs to the SONAR Utilities Menu - a new tool 2015/06/26 12:44:22 (permalink)
 If you did this tweak in previous versions of Sonar it is carried over when you install the new version.
BTW why can this be put back in Sonar without an external tweak.  Most of the other DAWs have this function.
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Re: Adding programs to the SONAR Utilities Menu - a new tool 2015/06/26 12:51:13 (permalink)
Thanks scook!

This should be a handy util!

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Re: Adding programs to the SONAR Utilities Menu - a new tool 2015/06/26 14:07:02 (permalink)
charlyg
Yup.
You may have a career in forensics! Or at least Sonar forensics....
 
Now it's working too good. It opens the selected track, but then tries to open another window and returns a Region error. I close it and everything seems ok with the "good" window, just that extra bit is a little odd.


Edit the Audadicty entry and set "Region Flag" to No
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Re: Adding programs to the SONAR Utilities Menu - a new tool 2015/06/26 14:08:47 (permalink)
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 If you did this tweak in previous versions of Sonar it is carried over when you install the new version.
BTW why can this be put back in Sonar without an external tweak.  Most of the other DAWs have this function.


Feel free to make a Feature Request. In the interim, I believe this tool should work.
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Re: Adding programs to the SONAR Utilities Menu - a new tool 2015/06/27 09:51:21 (permalink)
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kitekrazy1
 If you did this tweak in previous versions of Sonar it is carried over when you install the new version.
BTW why can this be put back in Sonar without an external tweak.  Most of the other DAWs have this function.


Feel free to make a Feature Request. In the interim, I believe this tool should work.


In a post about IZotope RX a comment was made
By Noel: http://forum.cakewalk.com/Findpost/1850700

It sounds like there is a requirement from other software to create some sort of a registry entry

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Re: Adding programs to the SONAR Utilities Menu - a new tool 2015/07/24 15:09:48 (permalink)
I've been trying to add Cool Edit 2000 (Yes, it's old but it works fine) to my Sonar X3.  I've tried several times with no success.  Maybe I just don't know how to run the menu editing program by Scook.  I know I've done it successfully before on an older Win 7 64bit system.  I'm now running Win 7 Pro 64bit on a new PC.
 
I've tried running the menu editor normally and as administrator (even though I'm logged in as an administrator).
 
Here's what the program interface looks like:
 
<Ooops - had to edit out the image - it came thru as data, not an image>
 
It filled out the info about Cool Edit.  What buttons do I click to make it work?
Does it make a difference if X3 is running or not when trying to add an editor to the Utilities menu?
 
Thanks,
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Re: Adding programs to the SONAR Utilities Menu - a new tool 2015/07/24 15:21:07 (permalink)
1. set Update Registry to Yes
2. set Name to "Cool Edit" (this is the name of the registry entry)
3. Click Exe Path Browse button and find the Cool Edit program or type in the fully qualified path of the program
4. set Menu Name to "&Cool Edit" (this is the name shown in the menu, the ampersand is optional and sets the accelerator key for the menu item.

 
The Utilities menu is created when SONAR is started. Changes to the registry will not be picked when SONAR is started again.
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Re: Adding programs to the SONAR Utilities Menu - a new tool 2015/07/24 15:21:33 (permalink)

 
Here's the image from  my previous post.
 
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Re: Adding programs to the SONAR Utilities Menu - a new tool 2015/07/24 15:23:47 (permalink)
I must have the wrong version of the menu editor.  Hmmmm......
I'll go find a new version.

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Re: Adding programs to the SONAR Utilities Menu - a new tool 2015/07/24 15:24:57 (permalink)
That is not my tool. It never looked like that. If that is the old SONAR Utils program, it is not 64bit compatible.
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Re: Adding programs to the SONAR Utilities Menu - a new tool 2015/07/24 15:27:50 (permalink)
Sorrry for the confusion.  I've got your now and will try it immediately!
 

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Re: Adding programs to the SONAR Utilities Menu - a new tool 2015/07/24 18:41:59 (permalink)
FYI, Duckbar has full featured Utilities Menu Editor, too. :)
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Re: Adding programs to the SONAR Utilities Menu - a new tool 2015/07/24 21:31:06 (permalink)
scook
There are still copies of wave files made in the background, it is all handled automatically. Ultimately if the changes are committed in the external program, the changed wave is added back to the SONAR project.



Thanks scook for this utility.  I just tried it with Audition 3.0 and it works fine.
 
When, after editing a region of a wav clip within Audition, and close the Audition window, Audition says :
 
Current audio file not saved. Save changes to
C:\Users\Paul\AppData\Local\Temp\Tool copy 1 of
TEX003.7 (7).wav?

 
Question 1 :  Is there a way to specify another folder for temporary files for this usage ?  I don't know who picked this Temp folder and I would prefer a temp folder somewhere other than on my almost full SSD.
 
If I say "no" to Audition, no changes are made to the project's audio files.  If I say "yes", a wav file is created within the project's audio folder with the name "Tool copy 1 of TEX003_7 (15).wav".  [nice that a copy is made automatically]
 
Question 2 :  Is the string "Tool copy n ..." created by Sonar and is it changeable to something more meaningful like "Audition copy n ..." so I have an idea of who was responsible for the copy ?
 
Thanks.
 

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Re: Adding programs to the SONAR Utilities Menu - a new tool 2015/07/24 21:44:36 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Paul P 2015/07/24 22:16:02
Pretty sure SONAR. like most Windows programs uses the temporary folder defined by Windows. Here is a thread on another forum about redefining the temporary folder http://forums.overclockersclub.com/topic/184591-tutorial-moving-the-windows-7-temp-file-locations/.
 
I have not seen any other program use the names SONAR creates for the temporary waves. That said, there is no way in SONAR to alter the names of the temporary files.
 
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Re: Adding programs to the SONAR Utilities Menu - a new tool 2015/07/25 04:43:41 (permalink)
Nice one Scook :-)

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Re: Adding programs to the SONAR Utilities Menu - a new tool 2015/07/25 10:39:49 (permalink)
Scook that's amazing, massive thanks.
 
I had tried every method described to get soundforge showing and I just gave up years ago as none of them
did it for me and now in just a few seconds it's there in the list.
 
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Re: Adding programs to the SONAR Utilities Menu - a new tool 2015/08/11 15:10:06 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby stevethompson 2016/01/08 10:34:11
I uploaded a new version. The tool now has command line arguments to override drop down default settings. This makes it easier to set up inside SONAR (at least for me). I also repackaged both versions in a zip file w/ a readme.pdf.
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Re: Adding programs to the SONAR Utilities Menu - a new tool 2016/01/08 10:23:53 (permalink)
THANKS!  Added Eleven Rack Editor, works great :)

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Re: Adding programs to the SONAR Utilities Menu - a new tool 2016/01/10 00:53:30 (permalink)
Hi everyone,
 
Can someone please help me understand the benefits of adding a third party program to platinum utilities menu ?
 
I get how rewire works and i am trying to understand for example how adding sound forge 11 to sonar utilities >which i have already done < I just dont understand how it is connected to platinum ( no tracks - no rewire )
 
What is the benifit besides having it sit in the utilities menu - really appreciate if someone can explain in more detail please >
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Re: Adding programs to the SONAR Utilities Menu - a new tool 2016/01/10 02:30:20 (permalink)
OK
so i think i understand
that i can select a audio file in track view
and then under utilities menu select sound forge pro 11
 then sound forge should open and carry the audio file over ! Great but it doesn't,
 
1)because  if i change the registry (Type to Audioeditor then i can open sound forge through utilities , but it wont carry the audio file over .
2) if i change the registry ( Type to WaveEditor then its greyed out in utilities ???????????????????????????????HELP
 
So i have worked out that the registry edit  ( Type needs to say WaveEditor for it to carry the audio over ) but when i modify it to WaveEditor then relaunch platinum sound forge is there under utilities but its GREYED OUT!!!!
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Can someone please look at my registry settings  pic below and tell me why sound forge is greyed out in utilities ???
 
 
UPDATE: Its ok i realise that i need to highlight the audio in track view for it to not be greyed out but the sample i was selecting was NO GOOD , ALL WORKING NOW , just not with some samples !
 
 
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post edited by taccess - 2016/01/10 02:58:55
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Re: Adding programs to the SONAR Utilities Menu - a new tool 2016/01/10 12:57:07 (permalink)
Glad you figured it out. I added Sound Forge without a hitch. This utility is a huge asset. Way easier than the old method. There are a million little windows tweeking utillitys all over the internet but 90% ( 99%?) are malware, nice to have one from a trusted source. 

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Re: Adding programs to the SONAR Utilities Menu - a new tool (Updated to v2.3) 2016/07/29 17:41:57 (permalink)
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The process for adding audio editors is described here https://www.cakewalk.com/Support/Knowledge-Base/2007013099/Adding-third-party-audio-editing-software-to-SONARs-Tools-menu
 
Noel went into more detail here http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/1850413
 
Based on these links I created a new utility program, SONARToolsEditor.
 
Most only need SONARToolsEditor.exe. It should work on 64bit Vista and newer maintaining the tools section of the Utilities menu for both 32 and 64bit SONAR running on 64bit Windows. SONARToolsEditor32.exe is intended for 32bit Windows only.
 
Edit: v2.1 updated to new version. Now has command line arguments to override drop down defaults. It is packaged as a zip, including both 32 and 64bit versions and a Readme.pdf
 
Edit: v.23 minor UI reformatting


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Re: Adding programs to the SONAR Utilities Menu - a new tool (Updated to v2.3) 2016/11/15 06:30:42 (permalink)
scook
Based on these links I created a new utility program, SONARToolsEditor.



Thank you!

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Re: Adding programs to the SONAR Utilities Menu - a new tool 2017/05/27 18:21:11 (permalink)
Scook, thank you for the helpful software...

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Re: Adding programs to the SONAR Utilities Menu - a new tool (Updated to v2.3) 2017/05/29 15:52:42 (permalink)
thanks awesome tool
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