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2015/09/02 13:11:10 (permalink)

Still Totally Tired

Out of curiosity, I pulled up an old post of mine from January of this year where I complained about being totally tired.  If you want to see it, here it is. http://forum.cakewalk.com/My-Coffee-is-Not-Working-m3146889.aspx If you do, I suggest you get help.
 
Anyway, I'm still tired. I mean that I'm exhausted. I wake up tired, drag through my day sleepy, drive home worn out, and sit like a lump until bedtime. I have sleep apnea, so I use a cpap machine to breathe at night. It's not good enough. I'm sluggishly tired.
 
I went back for another sleep study (I hate those), so we'll see what new tricks the doctor has up his sleeve. The doctor asked how long I've felt this way and I couldn't remember. I'm a lower functioning zombie with 4 hours of sleep. At 6 hours, I manage to sit upright and drink coffee. With 8 hours of sleep, I can drink coffee without burning myself. With 10 or more hours of sleep, I feel the same, but I'm sore from laying around for so long. All of that is, of course, just an excuse to whine about the fact that I'm totally tired. 
 
I know that some people get more creative when they're sleep deprived. Something flips in their heads and all sorts of wild ideas start flowing. I'm the opposite. My creativity takes a nose dive when I'm overly tired. I know myself well enough to know that for me to be at my most creative, I need to be well rested and well fed. I've been practicing the well fed part. I just want to get the well rested thing happening so I can get back up to speed. 
 
I was just curious if others in the Coffee House feel more or less creative when you're tired. (I also wanted to complain, but I can't top Bill's voice thing, so this was the best I could do.) Anyone else find themselves among the Walking Dead Tired?
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Re: Still Totally Tired 2015/09/02 13:15:03 (permalink)
My first thought is that you may be dehydrated. I learned a long time ago how much more energy I have (and sleep better) if I drink lots of water, and not the water in coffee and tea.
 
I cannot be creative when I'm tired, just doesn't work.

 
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Re: Still Totally Tired 2015/09/02 13:34:12 (permalink)
Bubba, you may be my long lost twin brother, yawn, I hope it gets, yawn, better real soon.

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Re: Still Totally Tired 2015/09/02 13:45:01 (permalink)
Bubba I Am Walking Dead Ugly.
 
I Am pretty Shure there is absolutely no cure for that 

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Re: Still Totally Tired 2015/09/02 13:46:40 (permalink)
You may be right, James. I know I probably guzzle more coffee than I should and a reasonable person would drink water instead. I've seen reasonable people. I've even known a few. I could probably imitate one for awhile. 
 
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Re: Still Totally Tired 2015/09/02 13:53:27 (permalink)
I can't create when I'm tired. I can't play. I can't do much of anything. I can't even pos.... zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz 

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Re: Still Totally Tired 2015/09/02 13:53:35 (permalink)
I feel for you Bubba. I know for me when the fatigue sets in I can't think and my mind stops working. Especially my memory. I can wish you well and to get better.  As far as being creative, I seem to be that way early in the morning. Rested is what I have to be to be creative. Good luck

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Re: Still Totally Tired 2015/09/02 14:00:17 (permalink)
Thyroid? 

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Re: Still Totally Tired 2015/09/02 14:56:23 (permalink)
Way back I was constantly tired. Turns out this was one of the symptoms of my type 2 Diabetes. Once diagnosed I got my blood sugar under control and the result is a big increase in energy.
 
I wouldn't panic but I would get checked out some time.

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Re: Still Totally Tired 2015/09/02 14:57:11 (permalink)
I wondered about the thyroid. Doc says my numbers are fine. He clipped off a tiny sliver of one fingernail and held it up. "This is how much weight you can keep. Lose the rest." When I questioned the validity of his degree he offered to have the excess weight boiled in a large vat he kept in a corner of his hut. My fingernail sliver seemed to like that idea. 
 
Cannibal doctors may be convenient, but I'm not sure they have my best interests at heart. 
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Re: Still Totally Tired 2015/09/02 17:25:29 (permalink)
Just to throw out a different view, I woke up today and I feel great!  Of course I was up until 3am when I started to get tired and slept until the crack of noon so that may have something to do with it. 

 
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Re: Still Totally Tired 2015/09/02 19:16:08 (permalink)
My own experience of sleep deprivation comes from the early to mid 90's when we were all partying our socks off at raves and house parties and sometimes going 2-3 days without sleep, usually with copious amounts of "fun" pharmaceuticals. For the most part of it, I had attributed that weird next-day Twilight Zone feeling with the effects of the drugs wearing off, but since then I've come to realize that the weirdness was more the lack of sleep than anything else.
 
It really does some strange things to your brain. What I remember is that for all I felt like I was completely unfit for human consumption and dreaded having to do anything (especially involving going outside), when it came down to it my brain would go into some kind of highly charged autopilot mode when called upon to extend itself. So I would find myself in a social situation that I'd been dreading due to the lack of sleep, but actually turning out to be the life and soul of the party (and extremely quick witted if I do say so myself), or I'd find myself in a musical situation playing guitar better than I'd ever done in my life. All of this along with a slight out of body feeling. 
 
So yeah I would say that it has the potential to enhance creativity. In just the right amount it can open a sort of floodgate of highly focused ideas and thoughts. Too much and you just lose the plot. One time as a mad experiment we went 4 days without sleep. The state of my mind by the end of it scared me. I didn't recognize my friends when I looked at them, and certainly couldn't remember their names. Conversations were hard as everyone would get crossed wires and irreversible confusion would ensue. Not to mention the paranoia 

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Re: Still Totally Tired 2015/09/02 21:22:30 (permalink)
Any chance it could be sleep apnea?   My wife was diagnosed last year after suffering for years with symptoms very similar to yours.  Two unpleasant experiences driving over rumble strips on her way to work prompted a few sleep studies, where they discovered she had a fairly severe case.   She's been on a CPAP machine ever since and it's made all the difference.   She hates it, but there's no denying its effectiveness. 
 

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Re: Still Totally Tired 2015/09/02 21:27:24 (permalink)
With Bubba, I wouldn't discount alien abduction with the usual memory loss of the event either... 

 
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Re: Still Totally Tired 2015/09/02 22:40:23 (permalink)
bubba - I feel you pain, or numbness, or whatever it shall be.
 
Like you I've been to sleep tests (I have mild sleep apnea, sleeping on the side is suppose to be enough to solve that), and my numbers all come up good at the doctor as well. 
 
Chronic fatigue can be a sign of heart problems. Here in Canada I cannot request (and pay for) an EKG or an angiogram, etc... the Doctor must request them. I did talk him into getting me an EKG (which passed) but I cannot get an angiogram to check for blockage. Not to worry, as soon as I have a heart attack they will give me one for free ! Seriously - how is your heart condition? Or do you even know? 
 
Fatigue can also be caused by mental health issues and in particular, stress! If you wake up each day worried about something/anything, that's not good. EG, and I'll keep it short. My daughter is going through a nasty divorce and there are three grandchildren caught in the middle. My wife and I have been "tired to the bones" since this all started more than a year ago. My tiredness started long before this... but I know this is not helping any!
 
Good luck.... if you solve it, let me know what helped :)
 
Oh - and to answer your question.... my creativity has been at an all time low during all of this. I don't believe fatigue stimulates creativity at all... but the drugs that keep some people going might
post edited by codamedia - 2015/09/02 22:55:45

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Re: Still Totally Tired 2015/09/02 23:45:57 (permalink)
if it`s any help,Dostoyevsky complained of "terrible tiredness" and whilst it didn`t seem to stem his creativity most of his stuff is pretty bleak.
imagine if he had developed a fondness for the stimulants of the day-may have helped him through the dark times he lived through and made him a tad more cheerful.
sometimes when a condition becomes chronic and is not medically detectable,you can accept the condition as the status quo,reset your standards and expectations and move forward?.
 
 
ps:getting older can create tiredness
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Re: Still Totally Tired 2015/09/03 15:44:56 (permalink)
Hi,
I just took 2 extra days off ... after my regular 2 days off ... and I could not do anything except get up ... fool around for an hour or 2 and then go back to bed. I was finally getting some decent sleep by tuesday ... but still mind tired ... and was able to actually do a lot of writing and spent time cleaning up my website!
 
That was it ... the rest of the time, was a little mindless time,  2 hours Wednesday, playing a little WoW with some close friends and family, for fun! Back to bed at 9PM to be up at 445AM.
 
Don't feel like working, and I like what I do!
 
Seriously contemplating retirement and living broke for the rest of my life, since my health is not gonna get better with the stress related to work!

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Re: Still Totally Tired 2015/09/03 16:00:06 (permalink)
I haven't had a day off (I mean a day where I don't do anything but rest) since last October...well maybe Christmas Day, but that's just a day of enforced stress. The joys of self-employment.

 
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Re: Still Totally Tired 2015/09/03 20:32:10 (permalink)
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I cannot be creative when I'm tired, just doesn't work.

'splains my missing tracks.
post edited by bapu - 2015/09/03 20:41:47
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Re: Still Totally Tired 2015/09/04 02:30:52 (permalink)
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jamesg1213
I cannot be creative when I'm tired, just doesn't work.

'splains my missing tracks.




It do indeed.
 
Although, there are some done.

 
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Re: Still Totally Tired 2015/09/04 04:49:26 (permalink)
NagBap is in effect! 

 
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Re: Still Totally Tired 2015/09/04 09:50:15 (permalink)
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NagBap is an effect! 




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Re: Still Totally Tired 2015/09/05 02:08:15 (permalink)
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned diet …or even exercise for that matter ..
Certain foods would mess me up and would make me feel tired …I had to give those up .
When I don't exercise I feel like $hit ….
 
 
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Re: Still Totally Tired 2015/09/05 04:57:07 (permalink)
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned time travel.  That has to wear someone out and must be far worse than simple jet lag!

 
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Re: Still Totally Tired 2015/09/05 13:41:00 (permalink)
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I'm surprised nobody has mentioned time travel.  That has to wear someone out and must be far worse than simple jet lag!



I don't think so ... usually you are in such a high on those moments, that you rarely can do anything else ... not tired ... just blown away!

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Re: Still Totally Tired 2015/09/05 18:52:22 (permalink)
not worth it 
 
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Re: Still Totally Tired 2015/09/06 12:12:47 (permalink)
My weird friend said he'd invented a time machine, but it could only go into the future by a few milliseconds. I tried it, and it must have worked because I blinked and found myself in my neighbor's bathroom.
 
Good thing it can't jump 6 months, or I'd have ended up space debris somewhere along earth's orbit on the other side of the sun. Time travel sounds so much better in theory.


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Re: Still Totally Tired 2015/09/06 13:00:21 (permalink)
Do you get dizzy if you stand up real fast?
Crave salty foods in the afternoon?
 
Adrenals. 
Stress, diet, too much coffee (coffee boots cortisol but you pay for it later). 

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Re: Still Totally Tired 2015/09/06 18:51:58 (permalink)
You aren't the only one friend. I am tired most of the time, some of it has to do with getting older, some may be from blocked arteries but hey, according to my insurance a 60% blockage isn't enough to do anything about.
 
Now, I NEVER take naps. I hate naps. I always wake up in a foul mood. However, the last few days we visited my inlaws in south GA... WAY south GA, ike 60 miles north of Tallahassee, Fl south. My FIL is80 something, a cancer survivor, and keeps the house warm. He keeps the thermostat on 77. It was WARM and HUMID. Hot and humid outside, warm and humid inside. I had a light sweat all night. I'd go to bed at 9:00 PM and get up about 8:00 AM but Friday AM I go up at 8:00 and was just exhausted, even after a nights sleep. I woke up at 2:00 AM with a cluster headache but got back to sleep with in 30 minutes... I got my coffee, laid down on the love seat and went back to sleep until 11:45... I was troubled because I never do anything like that. I think the heat and humidity took it out of me.
Man! I am glad to be back home. Having a Bud Red... going to eat a bowl of chili and chill tonight and tomorrow.
I'm going to insist on another heart cat this year. The 60% was three years ago. I have had a few chest pains so I'm going with that. My cardiologist told me that is the only way to get a cath anymore. I have two stents. In 2007 I had two blockages in my right main artery. The ONLY symptom I had was unexplained weight loss, I was a little tired but no pain, nothing else. I had a 95% and an 85%. The first doctor told me I should be dead.
It certainly could explain being tired... low blood sugar could also make you tired. All kinds of endocrine problems, Low "T"... it is hard to nail down but some really good sativa will make a big difference. Indica will make it worse. Just saying.
I hope you're well... we all get old and tired but never forget, doctors are better than undertakers!!
 
Be well my friend!
 
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Re: Still Totally Tired 2015/09/06 19:01:01 (permalink)
....and Bubba, never forget. Pharmaceutical companies educate doctors (or they try to)... and NEVER FORGET.. Pharmaceutical companies have absolutely NO interest in you being well. They make their money by selling pills to treat symptoms and to have symptoms... you have to be sick. SO.. If they put out stuff that cured people, they would go out of business.. it is the "way of the world". They DO NOT have your best interest at heart. YOU have to be your own doctor, to whatever extent you can. Doctors are severely over worked and will miss things. Keep an eye on what you do or don't do and what happens and sometimes you can figure things out. My worst thing lately has been shoulder pain, both shoulders, the big muscles in the back and on the right, the top of my neck, temple, and right eye (I'm pretty sure some is cluster headaches and I'm looking for some tryptamines like a certain fungi) but the shoulder muscles.. I can't figure out but they have been hurting for about 14 days now. I'm going to try a massage therapist and go from there.... it's always something eh?
 
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