Question about CD track titles

Just burning some master CDs to send off to a duplicator for them to make the glass master from.
 
Using Nero for burning, adding in title of CD, artist, track numbers and track names. These appear nicely when I play the CD on hi-fi or in van CD player, but in Windows Media Player, iTunes and VLC media Player, it comes up as 'unknown album' and just the track numbers and lengths, no track names.
 
Am I missing something in Nero, or is this just because the album isn't in the media players database?

To heck with the naming issues, what's all this about a new CD James? 

craigb
To heck with the naming issues, what's all this about a new CD James? 

Just about to get 50 copies of the 6 track Nettlesmith CD done. Sessions for the 2nd CD starting Oct 2nd...if I can get my head around a new PC with Windows 10 and new interface...

Well you'll be disappointed then, although the 6 songs are 29 mins long all together 'Nettlesmith' is myself and Tim Wilkinson. The songs are on Soundcloud in my sig.

craigb
Same guy you worked with in Slow Marching Band?

No, that was Larry Hansen in Connecticut. Tim and I have been in bands together on and off since 1979.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compact_Disc_manufacturing
 
If you are having CD's pressed or replicated, then you need a mold to do the pressing. That is the process used for large run commercial CD's. The glass master is an intermediate in that process that ultimately forms the pits on the plastic.  If you are having CD's duplicated, then you are just burning a writable CD, the same basic process you use on your computer. 

jamesg1213

codamedia
iTunes currently uses Gracenote (internet database) ...
When you put your "finished" CD in and open iTunes you can label it and submit it to Gracenote. You should do this before somebody else does :) 
 
Windows Media works the same way but appears to use it's own system.

 
That was surprisingly easy, thanks.

That's why I suggest you do it before someone else puts your CD in their machine. You get to label it the way you want it labelled.

jamesg1213
Just burning some master CDs to send off to a duplicator for them to make the glass master from.
 
Using Nero for burning, adding in title of CD, artist, track numbers and track names. These appear nicely when I play the CD on hi-fi or in van CD player, but in Windows Media Player, iTunes and VLC media Player, it comes up as 'unknown album' and just the track numbers and lengths, no track names.
 
Am I missing something in Nero, or is this just because the album isn't in the media players database?

James, I wish I knew the answer to this myself. I have great CD writers here that write text yet they do not show up on certain things. I was starting to think it was me. I mean heck, I master at least 4 albums per week....if I can't write text, what the heck is wrong?
 
I decided to see if a CD I had mastered by the mighty Bob Katz had this issue. Sure enough, his master did not show the text either and we use the same burners. What I found weird was, when I master for clients, most time I do a regular image master or a DDP. If I import the .cue file, all the names show up in all 3 of my mastering programs. The PQ sheets that are generated are perfect. Yet, in some systems, the text doesn't show up.
 
BUT....once you get the Cd back from the duplication house, the text always shows up. On all the players I have that don't show the text, the duplication copy does. Whatever the heck they do, they make it work. I was just happy that my Bob Katz masters (two different ones) couldn't be read either. The other fix is of course what you've been told about Gracenote etc. Winamp auto connects to this and asks when something new is introduced to the player. At any rate, good luck with your CD! :)
 
-Danny

Yep, that's how I understand it. Not worried about selling anything really, it would just be nice if people had the CD and the track titles came up if they're playing it using WMP or iTunes.
 
iTunes now 'sees' the titles after I sent the details to Gracenote, so I'll take care of WMP as per Slart's helpful link.

Danny Danzi

Moshkito
Hi,
 
It's an "unknown album" because WMP is not finding it on the Internet 

Yeah I think we all understand that. What I'm not understanding is if we have text writing CD burners, why don't we see the text for 1.....
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I think this might interfere in the copyrights and information stuff, is my impression. I could be incorrect here. One would expect the person "owning" the rights to provide that information, which, as is the case here, is not exactly well known as a process.
 

Danny Danzi 
And 2, what happens at the duplication facility that allows everything to be seen on any player that can read text?
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I'll have to ask that question to a facility here in Portland, but my guess is that the information on the album corresponds to some sort of commercial entity that keeps track of these things like Allmedia and the other one. But, I really don't know, and will defer to others here.