Skarda
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Touch screens or not
I am buying a pair of 24" monitors. Is there much benefit to touch screens. They seem a bit lower resolution and higher cost in that $300 dollar range. Also a non-touch screen has a thinner edge to butt next to each other with a tighter seam. But if Sonar has a lot of benefit with a touch screen. Weeelll maybe then
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Re: Touch screens or not
2015/10/28 17:44:22
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I don't have them, but I would buy one.
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Re: Touch screens or not
2015/10/28 23:45:34
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☄ Helpfulby FreeFlyBertl 2015/11/02 02:27:53
There are a few threads that address this. I own a touch screen monitor and, frankly, I don't get much use out of it. I'd only recommend it to folks who can afford the much higher resolution (thus more expensive) models. I bought a 23" Acer a year or more ago and while it's cool to show my clients I have touch capability, it's really no more than that. I had hopes for touch but it seems to have fallen of the radar to a degree.
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Re: Touch screens or not
2015/10/29 02:47:00
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You need to make sure the monitor is multi touch capable. That is 10 points of contact active simultaneously.
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Re: Touch screens or not
2015/10/29 14:53:58
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Also consider ergonomics. My monitors are not within reach without leaning, and touch would require close proximity and ergonomic positioning.
Because of this alone, I have not considered touch an option for myself.
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Re: Touch screens or not
2015/10/31 05:32:29
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^^Same here. This far I haven't once seriously considered getting a touch screen, simply due to ergonomy and the fact that all touch user comments I've seen emphasize that you can't work using touch alone, you need mouse for some tasks anyway.
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Re: Touch screens or not
2015/10/31 07:27:27
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I seem to be one of the few fans. I think it's fun. I don't use touch all the time, but I wouldn't buy a second non-touch monitor. I would only buy another touch monitor. For my second touch monitor, I might not care about 10 point touch (which I have on my primary) or super high resolution. Touch is nice. It does get used, especially when practicing or playing with others. When straight up mixing, I use it less, but it's always nice.
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Re: Touch screens or not
2015/10/31 08:57:07
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Skarda I am buying a pair of 24" monitors. Is there much benefit to touch screens. They seem a bit lower resolution and higher cost in that $300 dollar range. Also a non-touch screen has a thinner edge to butt next to each other with a tighter seam. But if Sonar has a lot of benefit with a touch screen. Weeelll maybe then
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Re: Touch screens or not
2015/11/01 10:20:00
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I have a touch screen that I had high hopes for but I find little practical use for it beyond novelty value. The ergonomics of monitor placement are certainly an issue, plus using a touch screen compared to a mouse is like trying to play scrabble wearing boxing gloves.
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Re: Touch screens or not
2015/11/01 12:30:39
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Re: Touch screens or not
2015/11/01 12:44:37
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I'm sort of neutral on touch screens. I have a tablet with touch and its very nice. However my desktop has two non touch monitors. I also have a Mackie Control. I can't see it being replaced by a touch screen. Touch is handy for some actions under Windows 10. But a touch device is not essential in my view. Sonar is touch aware and it will do well with a touch screen yet some things are better done with a mouse. The tablet has a keyboard that is detachable with a touch pad yet I opted for a bluetooth mouse to go with it. One reason the mouse has a wheel and two buttons. Combined these things add ease of use and flexibility to the touch screen. Obviously a touch screen by itself will work but not as well as a mouse or in the case of Sonar a dedicated CS.
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Re: Touch screens or not
2015/11/02 02:27:48
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I have a ... ... Tablet PC with touch - I love it for live shows and all the power you get from such a small thing, but I don't use touch as the screen is too small / resolution is way too fine (only in case of emergency e.g. if bluetooth keyboard is not repsonding) ... Touch screen mounted to the wall in the rec room, which I use occasionally when rehearsing for live shows. Here it is much better just to use your fingers to arm tracks, jump to markers and do all the transport interaction... mind you, even here you can't live without a mouse (just try to go into preferences and change something ... or try adjust a few faders by 0.2 dB) ... and your arm gets really tired after a while ... Currently, I would not want to swap my control surface for one or two touch screens; I wouldn't want to be looking at these bright screens all the time, I would have to swap the desk underneath to make ergonomics work ... and what apparently no one else cares about: I wouldn't want two perfectly flat reflective surfaces right underneath my face when mixing ...
post edited by FreeFlyBertl - 2015/11/02 02:38:53
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Re: Touch screens or not
2015/11/02 13:44:52
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We lost the old screen-space efficient 8.x interface to make Multitouch possible, and now nearly nobody uses it?
post edited by jpetersen - 2015/11/02 13:55:12
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Re: Touch screens or not
2015/11/02 15:39:24
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I love my touchscreen. Not for moving faders. That part is hard to do accurately . For navigating and button pushing it's awesome.
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Re: Touch screens or not
2015/11/02 16:53:35
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Re: Touch screens or not
2015/11/02 17:53:49
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My grandkids think every screen is a touchscreen. Including the TV, the LCD display on the synthesizer and my glasses. What is it about glass, which despite having no texture, is as irresistible to touch as a bunny's fur? Personally, I don't care for touchscreens. They're just too imprecise for almost everything. Maybe if my fingers were smaller...
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Re: Touch screens or not
2015/11/04 05:02:14
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I've no interest in touch screens. I want my monitor in its usual position which is just out of arm's reach and at eye level, i.e. pretty much the worst place for a touch interface to be. But maybe if I ever had a computer purely for music use and had enough space where I could afford to take up most of the desk area with an inclined monitor, I'd consider it.
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Re: Touch screens or not
2015/11/04 05:42:07
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I am using the v-700 mixer with sonar. I find it hard to imagen that a touchscreen will ever replace the solid feeling of faders and knobs. But even with the v-700 a lot of mouse and keyboard is involved.
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Re: Touch screens or not
2015/11/04 06:26:42
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I've tried Sonar using touch and I went back to mouse instantly. I have to admit that the screen I was using was a bit to small for it to probably be ideal. Could be better with larger screens. /M
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