Personally, I like his voice - oh well.  Then again, I also like Richard Butler from the Psychedelic Furs too.

Personally I like his voice. It's distinctive. There are so many popular artists around these days with almost exactly the same voice, what I would call the "American Idol" sound. I hear so many young vocalists who sound identical right now, it's spooky. They all adopt the exact same vocal inflections and timbre, even a lot of the so-called "serious" artists who write and play their own music. I rarely hear anyone whose voice stands out as different. You hear people say things like "what a set of lungs on that girl," "he can really hold a note" or "what soul!" (which is just another way of saying they close their eyes when they sing and warble a scale run around every note) but never "he sounds like nobody else."

Weird or distinctive voices grow on you as an acquired taste. So much of today's music is sugary sweet and designed to have instant appeal but it's ultimately disposable.

sharke
Personally I like his voice. It's distinctive. There are so many popular artists around these days with almost exactly the same voice, what I would call the "American Idol" sound. I hear so many young vocalists who sound identical right now, it's spooky. They all adopt the exact same vocal inflections and timbre, even a lot of the so-called "serious" artists who write and play their own music. I rarely hear anyone whose voice stands out as different. You hear people say things like "what a set of lungs on that girl," "he can really hold a note" or "what soul!" (which is just another way of saying they close their eyes when they sing and warble a scale run around every note) but never "he sounds like nobody else."
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I've always thought that three folks that should spend time coaching kids at American Idol ... should be Bob Dylan (would teach them to use swear words!), Peter Hammill (would teach them to sing until there is no breath or song left!) and Roy Harper (keep on word'ing until the song is over, but the words aren't!) ... then we might have a nice competition!

 
 
He never retired just put a wig on.
 
 
 
'I can't dance' .. If ever there was a non musical song, done badly in a non sensicle way, this is it. Producing zero enjoyment.

I'm okay w/ I Can't Dance. Maybe not as a Genesis song, but, ok.
I've heard a lot worst a gazillion time.

As a kid I quite liked his version of "Can't Hurry Love" - I think I was amused at there being multiple Phil's singing in the video, but also very much liked the melody. To this day I think it's better than the original. 
 
Mama is just a great track though, even with Collins' stupid cackling bits. There's a mid section in the song (starting "Can't you seeeee.....") which is a fantastic example of how much drama you can wring out of a minor chord progression. I love it, stunning piece of songwriting and Phil really belts it out over those chords. 

sharke
As a kid I quite liked his version of "Can't Hurry Love" - I think I was amused at there being multiple Phil's singing in the video, but also very much liked the melody. To this day I think it's better than the original. 
 
Mama is just a great track though, even with Collins' stupid cackling bits. There's a mid section in the song (starting "Can't you seeeee.....") which is a fantastic example of how much drama you can wring out of a minor chord progression. I love it, stunning piece of songwriting and Phil really belts it out over those chords. 

 
I remember Collins saying he wanted to do that 'haha' bit after he heard Grandmaster Flash doing it.

jamesg1213
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I liked it. Good vocal on that song. The rhythm is a bit lumpen but it still holds up. That was a pretty good album by and large, even had a couple of those 'longer cuts' that Mosh likes. 'No Son of Mine' is a great song too.

I don't dislike those albums ... just not on my favorite list, and by that time, there was far better stuff released all over Europe and America that deserved more attention, in my book. I would never say that Genesis or Phil Collins are not very good artists.

I like Phil's voice but I like Jim Morrison, Neil Young and Dylan.
 
There I said it.

jamesg1213

sharke
As a kid I quite liked his version of "Can't Hurry Love" - I think I was amused at there being multiple Phil's singing in the video, but also very much liked the melody. To this day I think it's better than the original. 
 
Mama is just a great track though, even with Collins' stupid cackling bits. There's a mid section in the song (starting "Can't you seeeee.....") which is a fantastic example of how much drama you can wring out of a minor chord progression. I love it, stunning piece of songwriting and Phil really belts it out over those chords. 

 
I remember Collins saying he wanted to do that 'haha' bit after he heard Grandmaster Flash doing it.

Grandmaster Flash, Phil Collins is not. 

"Take a Look at Me Now" tour?

I actually posted the thread with just poking fun in mind.
 
I am proud to say that I actually REALLY like his vocals on the mid-70's Genesis stuff, even his Seconds Out covers of older material that Peter Gabriel had  sung.  He also made some great songs on the first few albums that came out after The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway.
 
Wind and Wuthering is one of my all-time favorite Genesis albums, and Tony Banks also considers it some of their finest work.
 
Lastly, what were they supposed to do?  They had all the elements of an iconic legendary band, that lost their lead singer, who wanted to explore a much different approach to songs then what would have happened if he stayed with Genesis?  The remaining folks chose Phil, who was already there, and already singing, and then they proceeded to kick butt with that new line up, though once they veered sharply into oncoming traffic later on, I was no longer liking a lot of the newer material.  (I Can't Dance makes me break out in a rash - hee hee)
 
There was a complete saturation of PC in the 80's - he WAS one of the best pop drummers ever, and he pretty much defined a style of drum processing that put a stamp on countless other recordings.
 
So - like him or not for any portion of his history, cool - I quite fondly still play Trick of the Tail, Wind and Wuthering, Seconds Out, and a few cuts from And Then There Were Three.
 
Bob Bone
 

bapu
I like Phil's voice but I like Jim Morrison, Neil Young and Dylan.
 
There I said it.

If I had to choose a vocalist for my band, and I had any choice I wanted, I would take Jim Morrison first. Why? ... he's excellent at "living" with a "poem", and that is something that most "singers" can not do ... you can get shivers just hearing him say when the music is over ... turn out the lights ... or so many other things he did. It's hard not to feel it, as it cuts right though you, and is not fake, or just a show. 
 
Big difference. Huge difference.

batsbrew
Brand X.
 

 
...had several drummers...