I had to run the XLN installer after the update, but calling it an update is perhaps a little under stated. So far no other issues but there's a lot of things left to check.

Windows 10 decided to upgrade today. The whole process took about 5 hours. Now Sonar Pro crashes immediately at startup.
 
I've been experiencing some USB-related mystery since the original upgrade in the summer - something causes Sonar to hang when loading a project. Due to all these problems, I have finished almost no projects in the last 3 months. 
 
There is something about older USB gear that seems to confuse Windows 10. But the crashing application is a new one on me. Boo hiss - error logs are winging there way to those wonderful folk at Sonar tech support again  hopefully they can save me once again.
 
Windows 10 and Sonar? It's cost me a lot of time and money so far, but I hope in the end it's better than keeping an out of date studio. Reinstalling my apps and OS every time there is an "upgrade" is not something we should have to accept. I just want to make music.
 

softwhirr
Windows 10 and Sonar? It's cost me a lot of time and money so far, but I hope in the end it's better than keeping an out of date studio. Reinstalling my apps and OS every time there is an "upgrade" is not something we should have to accept. I just want to make music. 

Which is why you should always wait at least 6 months before installing any brand new OS on a critical machine. Unless you don't mind running into issues and involuntary testing other software.

Twice in the last week I've gotten this: I'll just type what it says because for some reason I can no longer upload a picture to a message here (I have to host it somewhere online then put the ink in the box), the utility to upload a picture just has a blank box where there should be the place to enter the file info... but anyway that is a different problem
So I bet a BLUE SCREEN with a frown face. Then it says, Your PC ran into a problem and needs to restart. We're just collecting some error info, then you can restart. (xx% complete).
If you'd like to know more you can search online later for:
Page_Fault_in_nonpaged_area. 
I looked it up but it IIRC, it was over my head. In any case it seems that a restart usually fixes anything with W-10. I had to rollback one update about a month ago. Another thing that no longer works right for me is my fingerprint scanner/encryption. When I reboot, it does not work. After I logon with my PW, then it works if I close the lid for a while but it will not encrypt files anymore. Thanks MS...
 
On another note, I get a little pleasure out of telling MS that I do not like any of the pictures they load on my lock screen, or whatever screen it is.
 
I don't know if it is a W-10 or a Sonar thing but I get multiple error windows involving BitBridge whenever I rescan for VSTs, I noted that today when I added Amplitude4 to my laptop. I don't remember if I get these on my DAW, W-8.1, I'll check tomorrow. I'd be interested in any input on it.
 
Reboot... it is the new W-10 fix for everything...
 
Julien
 

jbow
Twice in the last week I've gotten this: I'll just type what it says because for some reason I can no longer upload a picture to a message here (I have to host it somewhere online then put the ink in the box), the utility to upload a picture just has a blank box where there should be the place to enter the file info... but anyway that is a different problem
So I bet a BLUE SCREEN with a frown face. Then it says, Your PC ran into a problem and needs to restart. We're just collecting some error info, then you can restart. (xx% complete).
If you'd like to know more you can search online later for:
Page_Fault_in_nonpaged_area. 
I looked it up but it IIRC, it was over my head. In any case it seems that a restart usually fixes anything with W-10. I had to rollback one update about a month ago. Another thing that no longer works right for me is my fingerprint scanner/encryption. When I reboot, it does not work. After I logon with my PW, then it works if I close the lid for a while but it will not encrypt files anymore. Thanks MS...
 
On another note, I get a little pleasure out of telling MS that I do not like any of the pictures they load on my lock screen, or whatever screen it is.
 
I don't know if it is a W-10 or a Sonar thing but I get multiple error windows involving BitBridge whenever I rescan for VSTs, I noted that today when I added Amplitude4 to my laptop. I don't remember if I get these on my DAW, W-8.1, I'll check tomorrow. I'd be interested in any input on it.
 
Reboot... it is the new W-10 fix for everything...
 
Julien
 

Have you tried going to your laptop manufacturer's website and doing any updates they have there for you? Laptops generally have various tailored drivers and apps and it's good practice to update these where possible anyway, but especially with a major OS upgrade. First thing I did after installing Windows 10 on my laptop was to go to the Lenovo site and find out what updates were available. There was quite a bunch of stuff related to Windows 10. My laptop is working great with 10 - granted I only use it for business things and not music, but it might be worth a try anyway in case it fixes any of your issues. 

I've been having a ton of problems with Windows 10 and Sonar, especially since I received the "November Update" to Win10 over the weekend. I thought it was just updates, but it took over the computer for 5 hours (yet another day's work lost).
 
Win10 seems to obsolete older USB gear, so I removed a bunch of things and "upgraded" to all the latest versions. So, after upgrading to Sonar Pro, buying a neww audio interface and going through all manner of so-called upgrades I now have an unstable system that keeps crashing. 
 
Today I thought I had it sorted after I upgraded ASIO4ALL to version 2.13 - everything was playing along nicely. And then Sonar Pro crashed AGAIN when I reloaded the project. So, I've been able to do hardly any work over the last 3 months. 
 
The support staff at Cakewalk have been helping a fair bit - but everything is getting worse. It started with Sonar just freezing when it launched, or when opening a project. Now, it just plain crashes.
 
Personally, I would like to be able to keep my studio up to date and not have to upgrade/downgrade/uninstall/reinstall/rollback the apps and the OS when I just want to make music. Crazy.

Doktor Avalanche

softwhirr
Windows 10 and Sonar? It's cost me a lot of time and money so far, but I hope in the end it's better than keeping an out of date studio. Reinstalling my apps and OS every time there is an "upgrade" is not something we should have to accept. I just want to make music. 

Which is why you should always wait at least 6 months before installing any brand new OS on a critical machine. Unless you don't mind running into issues and involuntary testing other software.

Heh heh - talk about shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted ;) All my other previous updates to Cakewalk stuff and OSs have been fine within 3 months of new versions (I'm talking Win95 to XP to 7 to 10). Based on this it seemed good to continue with the upgrade. I just want to get it working again. 

I'm back off the road shortly and will try again with Win 10 November Update...



Thx all for your suggestions and experiences.

softwhirr

tenfoot

softwhirr
 
Today I thought I had it sorted after I upgraded ASIO4ALL to version 2.13 - everything was playing along nicely. And then Sonar Pro crashed AGAIN when I reloaded the project. So, I've been able to do hardly any work over the last 3 months. 

 
Sorry to hear you are having problems softwhirr, but asio4all is quite likely part of your woes. I would start there as it is notoriously problematic. You would be far better off with a dedicated audio interface with proprietary asio drivers.

Well, I did have the Focusrite working on Saturday, but after the Win10 upgrade, Sonar crashed on start up. I found "ASIO4ALL" references in the crash log, so I installed the latest version and managed to get it working. But for some reason I can no longer select the Focusrite device within Sonar - not sure how to get it back though - any ideas? 

If the Focusrite has its own asio drivers, I would uninstall asio4all completely. You do not need it. It is an asio wrapper for sound cards that do not have proper asio drivers (Internal laptop soundcards etc).
 
You can only have one asio driver active at a time. If you have asio4all selected in device manager, you will not be able to select any other device. Make sure you deselect it first, then select your focusrite asio driver.
 

softwhirr
Well, I did have the Focusrite working on Saturday, but after the Win10 upgrade, Sonar crashed on start up. I found "ASIO4ALL" references in the crash log, so I installed the latest version and managed to get it working. But for some reason I can no longer select the Focusrite device within Sonar - not sure how to get it back though - any ideas? 

Pleae stop running ASIO4ALL esp with Focusrite devices. Uninstall it now. If you don't believe me contact Focusrite who will say the same thing. They will conflict.

Once your have got rid of them then make sure you are on the latest Focusrite drivers from the web.

win 10 upgrade has been a real problem for me on my win 8.1 laptop. My DELL win 7 laptop upgraded no problems to win 10 but my HP laptop with win 8.1 goes through the update and starts final install but fails with error 80004005. Then just asks me to reinstall still using the old win 8.1. I have read all the online advice but think I shall forget about the upgrade  its taking to much time I want to make music on Sonar not faf about with operating systems.

Just loaded win 10 lost my vs 700 control on Sonar platinum do I need to load seperate drivers or do they come with platinum?

I feel your pain.. Besides being a musician/singer/songwriter - I am a computer security engineer and have been around machines all the way back to the days to the DEC PDP-1170. (A long time ago) - This latest November patch release is a disaster for me - It causes an almost instantaneous crash of Sonar Platinum - UNACCEPTABLE! This is not a Cakewalk issue - it is solely Windows 10 (new patch) I have it configured so that Win 10 updates are "delayed" - and the machine has to ask my permission. I have to watch it like a hawk or it will try and push the patch, and I have to tell it no (which in Win10 speak is "later" not never). When it does sneak it past - I have to roll back - a few days later it tries again. I can't really debug and Windows does not say what is causing the crash. I am considering rolling back to 8.2 as I don't really like to and don't have the time to fight with an operating system. I run my own box, with an AMD Phenom II Quad core, 2TB of storage and 128K of RAM. IMHO Win 10 is not a stable OS and the latest patch should never have been pushed without more QA

stickman393
I've just applied the Windows 10 "Fall Update".
 
Addictive Drums 2 thinks my computer has changed to the point where it says that "There is an authorization problem" and "please run the installer"
 
(My project played back OK, but I'm not confident that will be the case for much longer, without some kind of intervention.)
 
When I run the XLN Online Installer, it says "You currently have your maximum amount of active computers. Remove old unused computers if you need to register a new computer."
 
Both "slots" - apparently you can register two computers - are the same physical machine. I think I used up the second slot when I re-installed AD after I upgraded to Windows 10 from Win 7, a few months ago.
 
One of them is labelled "Windows 10 64-bit", the other is "Other/don't know".
I'm going to try "removing" the computer in the second slot, and see if AD magically becomes authorized on this computer. 
 
UPDATE:
The XLN Installer allowed me to re-register the PC, then asked to update the Installer app itself, then said 1 item needed updating: "XLN Cloud Sync". I don't know or care what that is, but it only took a few minutes.
 
My project now opens without warning messages.
 
Thanks for this post' stickman393. I too' have XLN Audio's AD2 and experienced the identical problem inside of both Sonar Platinum' and X3 Producer' when my Windows 10 update happened. After I did what you did, it stopped.