Helpful ReplyHarrison Mixbus 3.0-2872 interim release (updated)

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Re: Harrison Mixbus 3.0-2845 interim release 2015/12/21 01:56:06 (permalink)
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Be sure and leave the audio system set to portaudio as default. Don't switch it to asio. Leave the driver set to asio. This was a fix they made early on and was causing a lot of the crashes. Contact me if you want to compare settings. I'm not having the same issues as you guys are. My projects open and save fine. There are a very few VSTs and Instruments that will crash Mixbus, but on it's own...it's been very solid here. I'm guessing the errors are coming from that startup page.




Thanks, I will give that a look and a whirl shortly, I recall seeing that portaudio thing, or something like that.
 
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Other than that, it put a very nice sheen on a stereo mix
 

 
Sheen, that's the word to describe what I was talking about up above when I said I had 'imaginings' of what it would sound like . . . why can I not hear that

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Re: Harrison Mixbus 3.0-2845 interim release 2015/12/21 02:49:37 (permalink)
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Sheen, that's the word to describe what I was talking about up above when I said I had 'imaginings' of what it would sound like . . . why can I not hear that


Put a stereo mix run through MB3 and a regular mix side by side and listen to them. You'll hear it. The MB3 mix will have a sweeter top end on it, and will be punchier IMO. It's fairly subtle. Maybe you're expecting it to be a night and day difference. It isn't. It just adds a little extra polish to it.
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Re: Harrison Mixbus 3.0-2845 interim release 2015/12/21 03:42:09 (permalink)
I done that the other day before the last mixbus crash, and like I said above, If I was to have picked one I would have picked the final export from Studio One. But I will try it again after I check/try what Clint suggested above about the portaudio thing.
 
No not really expecting a night and day difference, but more like what you are describing, "sheen" "extras polish".

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Re: Harrison Mixbus 3.0-2845 interim release 2015/12/21 04:09:27 (permalink)
I have found from experience to really back off the tape saturation. You can in fact remove all of it.  Just turn those controls right down.  Tape saturation is not always the right thing to have over a mix.
 
I am not a fan (yet) of the built in dynamics processors.  So I prefer to create stems from Studio One and do final stem mixing in Mixbus.  What I do like is the EQ on the tracks, buses and the final mix buss are all a little different.  Really get to know them all individually.
 
It is not for every genre either.  I tried mastering an Hip Hop tune in Mixbus and no matter what I did it simply did not work.  Mastering this particular track sounded better in Studio One to me.
 
But for a lot of things though Mixbus can sound excellent.  If you don't get too tangled in the tape saturation and just use the console emulation it can sound very good indeed.

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Re: Harrison Mixbus 3.0-2845 interim release 2015/12/21 05:00:11 (permalink)
I agree, Jeff. The song I was working on was a hard rock mix. I totally backed off the tape saturation, went very light on the compression, and just barely tripped the limiter every once in a while. I also used the master buss built in eq.
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Re: Harrison Mixbus 3.0-2845 interim release 2015/12/22 03:24:09 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby bapu 2015/12/22 09:51:23
Mine Ears Have Heard The Glory Of Mixbus
 
Been messing around with Mixbus solidly since yesterday, I can't explain it, but I can hear it as plain as day now. It's just a simple test thing with drums, bass, guitars and vocals, I just can't not hear the difference now. The bass guitar is just so much better, as Clint mentioned above was one stand out for him, it just sounds really good, drums also, more so the toms, although it is noticeable on the whole kit, the toms I especially liked. Guitar, slightly distorted tone, I'm noticing a difference, seemingly not as profound as with the rest, vocals also, but I hate my vocals/voice, so I'm not dwelling on that. I'm not very good at explaining things, but if I had to try, I'd say something like, more solid, punchier, more 'real', something along those lines. But it is most definitely there.
 
As to the portaudio thing, as it turns out no I never touched that, that is how it is set. But I can say that I never had one issue with Mixbus during my time with it from yesterday. I didn't try to use any VST's (no that's a lie, I did use Waves  EMI TG12345 on the master) but nothing else, just purely importing stems and using what is in Mixbus channel strips, EQ, Comp, Saturation etc. I can tell you the first couple of times I closed the program I was taking it nice and easy, not wanting to have to go through the rebooting again, waiting a little after I saved before hitting the close button, but by the end I was treating it like any other, and not a crash. Very happy with that. I guess it's onward and upward from here.

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Re: Harrison Mixbus 3.0-2845 interim release 2015/12/22 07:19:06 (permalink)
Good news! I have heard many people say that Mixbus acts more stable the more they use it. Almost like it's learning to work. It doesn't make much sense, but whatever gets the thing to function better...I quit trying to figure that out.
I'm glad it's doing something for you now.
 
 

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Re: Harrison Mixbus 3.0-2845 interim release 2015/12/22 09:40:06 (permalink)
See? We wernt lying.
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Re: Harrison Mixbus 3.0-2845 interim release 2015/12/24 02:15:03 (permalink)
lol, yes, I believed you all, just my belief was in faith, and reality for me at that time was still trailing. 
 
Yeah I can understand (even though I don't) the thing about getting better/functioning better as time goes on. It was the same thing with Windows 10, everyone was saying how fast it is etc, when I first installed it I thought it was actually slower, boot times were longer, shut downs were longer, then after a few days, bam, it kicked in and all I had read was true, screaming fast.
 
Yeah there is no sense trying to figure it out, that's just how it is.
 
Glad I jumped on board, and that my fears were unfounded.

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Re: Harrison Mixbus 3.0-2845 interim release 2015/12/24 08:44:46 (permalink)
Excellent news Richard. Like I said before Mixbus 3 isn't perfect yet, but they have made huge strides and seem to be committed to making a multi platform product...Over the last few years I've become a big fan of the Harrison team (and sound).

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