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Re: Addictive Drums 2 - Which ADPaks to get (with Sonar Platinum and NI Komplete)? 2016/01/13 09:56:02 (permalink)
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I went ahead and got the Session Percussion ADPak.  This installed AD2 for me.  I was then able to play with Session Percussion and also listen to the previews of the other ADpaks. 
 
It seems like Fairfax 1 gets lots of recommendations.  If I get that one as well, what would be a good third ADpak to complement Session Percussion and Fairfax 1?


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Re: Addictive Drums 2 - Which ADPaks to get (with Sonar Platinum and NI Komplete)? 2016/01/14 07:10:32 (permalink)
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Kenny, check your account at XLN and see if they're all registered there.
When you run the AD Installer program, all the registered Midipaks should be listed at the bottom (somewhat greyed out), but should all be there.




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I will try to look at it later but there is no reason you couldn't use your older purchases. I bought some during AD1 and they are in my browser so I know it works.




Aha , you guys are right . Thank You
They weren't showing up all that easy in Win 8 ...tonight I upgraded the machine w ADD2  from 8 to Win 10 ..
Because of that move I had to reauthorize and update all my info with  XLN ....now all those packs are showing up ...
even went back and took out my pucker up comment since I no longer need to go there any more 
 
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Re: Addictive Drums 2 - Which ADPaks to get (with Sonar Platinum and NI Komplete)? 2016/01/14 13:53:03 (permalink)
Glad it worked out Kenny......that's a lot of MidiPaks just waiting to be beat down down with the beat!!
Congrats on Win 10 upgrade......IIRC, all my drivers were automatically updated when I upgraded to Win 10......never looked back since then.
 

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Re: Addictive Drums 2 - Which ADPaks to get (with Sonar Platinum and NI Komplete)? 2016/01/14 16:01:12 (permalink)
I ran into the same dilemma, so over the course of the year I ended up getting pretty much all of them.  :)  However, I do find that I almost always go to Fairfax 1 first, and I use that and the Indie & Black Velvet kits the most.

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Re: Addictive Drums 2 - Which ADPaks to get (with Sonar Platinum and NI Komplete)? 2016/01/14 23:16:58 (permalink)
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Glad it worked out Kenny......that's a lot of MidiPaks just waiting to be beat down down with the beat!!
Congrats on Win 10 upgrade......IIRC, all my drivers were automatically updated when I upgraded to Win 10......never looked back since then.
 




Hi Mesh ,
 
Thanks for helping me out a few posts back
 
WOW, I'm really loving that Jazz Kit ...It has a Mitch Mitchell type of Vibe in the way it sounds ...
 
Yes , i noticed all the drivers on my computer got updated after the initial Win 10 install .
I'm so happy to have told my fear of upgrading to Win 10 to go take a chomp 
 
nice rapping with you ,
 
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Re: Addictive Drums 2 - Which ADPaks to get (with Sonar Platinum and NI Komplete)? 2016/06/02 22:18:16 (permalink)
For my second pack, I chose Fairfax Vol 1.
 
So now I have these:
 
- Session Percussion
- Fairfax Vol 1
 
For the third, which would you recommend:
 
a) Fairfox Vol 2
b) Black Velvet
c) something else?

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Re: Addictive Drums 2 - Which ADPaks to get (with Sonar Platinum and NI Komplete)? 2016/06/03 12:30:28 (permalink)
Obviously it's all highly personal, but of those I would pick Black Velvet just for sheer variety. 
 
I currently have Fairfax 1, Black Velvet, Retroplex and Metal for that very reason - I feel like I'm covering a lot of ground between them.

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Re: Addictive Drums 2 - Which ADPaks to get (with Sonar Platinum and NI Komplete)? 2016/06/03 12:54:11 (permalink)
I recall this thread. Can't remember what I posted earlier but the Indie kit is pretty flexible and well recorded.
 
It's not what I'd normally use (metal/rock/punk/weirdo proggy stuff) but it definitely sounds like a bunch of more modern commercial stuff and has a wide range (I actually think it will work nicely for some country stuff or vintage sounding 50's moldy oldies type tunes and maybe trip hop/Portishead sounds).
 
I mostly use the Metal and Fairfax kits for my stuff but definitely have plans for the Indie kit.
 
Actually I think the Fairfax 2 kit (if that's the older model drumkit) types sounds could be easily replaced by the Indie kit but not necessarily vice versa. Check the samples in the main AD2 page to see what you think but they don't tell the whole story by any means.
 
AFAIK the Black Velvet is pretty much the same as the one that we got with AD1 (but maybe updated?). I have both AD1 and 2 installed (and BFD Eco) so I figured I'd go with sounds that were more drastically different than what I already have.
 
I also have the Andy John's Session Drummer 3 kit (ultra tight/punchy blues/rock kit) and Rock legends for both Session Drummer 3 and BFD Eco (nice 70's sound rock kit... sounds good for old school punk).
 
Essentially my philosophy is to choose sounds I like but try not to double on similar sounds even if it means fiddling around a bit more with different samplers/versions and/or tweaking things a bit to acheive what I'd get from a SLIGHTLY better set of samples.
 
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Re: Addictive Drums 2 - Which ADPaks to get (with Sonar Platinum and NI Komplete)? 2016/06/03 14:17:42 (permalink)
I highly recommend the Reel Machines.  Great electronic drum samples.

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Re: Addictive Drums 2 - Which ADPaks to get (with Sonar Platinum and NI Komplete)? 2016/06/03 23:44:57 (permalink)
Tripecac
For my second pack, I chose Fairfax Vol 1.
 
So now I have these:
 
- Session Percussion
- Fairfax Vol 1
 
For the third, which would you recommend:
 
a) Fairfox Vol 2
b) Black Velvet
c) something else?




You said you like some jazzy stuff so consider Jazz Sticks.
 
I like Indie a lot, but I'd consider it more New Wave than Post Punk.
 
FF2 is another one I use a lot.  It's reasonably versatile, and seems a bit more restrained than FF1.
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Re: Addictive Drums 2 - Which ADPaks to get (with Sonar Platinum and NI Komplete)? 2016/06/04 07:01:06 (permalink)
As I consider my upgrade to Platinum Lifetime Updates, I am looking again at the options here.  I currently have X3, so I have experienced AD1, which I think is pretty decent, but I honestly still lean on my Roland TD20 with TDW20 expansion.  You would think that this would get left in the dust by a lot of the new samples and a lot of people think it does, but played and recorded right, it still stands up pretty well, especially when considering the nuances that it allows that most of the sample engines miss - anyway, I digress.
 
I'm leaning towards the Black Velvet and Fairfax Vol. 1 Paks.  Reading Beepster say that Black Velvet is much like the one we got with AD1, I'm reluctant now on that.
 
I use pretty standard studio dry, modern sounding but not over-the-top so drum sounds.  If I had acoustics, they would lean towards the sound of a versatile DW Kit, which is why I think Black Velvet as a choice.
 
So I need to be talking into or out of that and I'm trying to determine if Indie or Fairfax Vol 2 would be a better option in terms of versatility considering the first two choices.
 
While I like to have some odd sounds at my disposal, I have a ton of them in the TD20 brain and via Sample Tank 2 and Vintage Keys, so I don't really want to go with Reel Machines or the percussion set (as I have a Roland HandSonic as well, which works for what little bit of percussion I need).

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Re: Addictive Drums 2 - Which ADPaks to get (with Sonar Platinum and NI Komplete)? 2016/06/04 07:26:28 (permalink)
@blades... You may want to actually look at the Metal kit. Once you remove the "trigger" sounds from the kit peices it's actually a nice tight and punchy kit that I personally think could do a lot more than just metal.
 
There is also the Prog kit (IIRC) which may be more what you are after. I was going to get that one but I think I figured it sounded a lot like some of the other sounds I had.
 
Also please double check AD1 to make sure I'm remembering correctly that the Black Velvet is indeed one of the kits. I may be confusing it with another one but still the BV again still sounded similar to other sounds I had already.
 
BTW... those Roland packs are supposedly top notch so I don't doubt they compete with modern sample banks. I would LOOOOVE to own some V-Drums. Way out of my price range though and I don't have anywhere to set them up. I just use my padKontrol which kind of sort of gets the job done.
 
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Re: Addictive Drums 2 - Which ADPaks to get (with Sonar Platinum and NI Komplete)? 2016/06/04 07:47:47 (permalink)
Beep - long story about the affordability of the V-Drums for me.  It started with my house getting broken into and everything getting cleaned out.  Many of the things that I had replacement value insurance on, I no longer needed to replace because my new wife and I already had them in duplicate.  So, I took the reduced (depreciated) value check and bought the drums when the TD10 kit came out.  Then I added the TD20 brain, then the cymbals, then the TDW20.  So it wasn't ever much of an out of pocket thing and most of it was gifts at Christmas from that same wife :)

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Re: Addictive Drums 2 - Which ADPaks to get (with Sonar Platinum and NI Komplete)? 2016/06/04 09:28:44 (permalink)
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Beep - long story about the affordability of the V-Drums for me.  It started with my house getting broken into and everything getting cleaned out.  Many of the things that I had replacement value insurance on, I no longer needed to replace because my new wife and I already had them in duplicate.  So, I took the reduced (depreciated) value check and bought the drums when the TD10 kit came out.  Then I added the TD20 brain, then the cymbals, then the TDW20.  So it wasn't ever much of an out of pocket thing and most of it was gifts at Christmas from that same wife :)




That's pretty awesome... well except for getting robbed but seems like it turned intoa bonus.
 
If I ever get around to the V-Drum thing I'd probably have to just build it a piece at a time. I mostly need a double kick solution so AFAIK I could get the brain, a kick pad and use the double kick pedals I already own (not sure regular pedals will attach or trigger properly though). Then I'd add snare > hats > one tom > one cymbal (I think the ride has more trigger points?)...
 
As I build it I could just edit the MIDI as needed in post. Like at first all toms could be played on the snare then moved to the correct notes after. All cymbal hits played on the hats and moved after... etc.
 
Or maybe I could even figure out a way to automate predetermined note changes and program them into the project before recording. So as I play the hats or snare the notes change to the ride/crashes/toms at the parts I want. That would be kind of cool. Not sure if that's possible though.
 
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Re: Addictive Drums 2 - Which ADPaks to get (with Sonar Platinum and NI Komplete)? 2016/06/04 11:05:55 (permalink)
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@blades... You may want to actually look at the Metal kit. Once you remove the "trigger" sounds from the kit peices it's actually a nice tight and punchy kit that I personally think could do a lot more than just metal.
 
There is also the Prog kit (IIRC) which may be more what you are after. I was going to get that one but I think I figured it sounded a lot like some of the other sounds I had.
 
Also please double check AD1 to make sure I'm remembering correctly that the Black Velvet is indeed one of the kits. I may be confusing it with another one but still the BV again still sounded similar to other sounds I had already.
 


The standard AD1 kits are now the following AD2 kits:
Studio Pop
Studio Rock
Studio Prog
 
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Re: Addictive Drums 2 - Which ADPaks to get (with Sonar Platinum and NI Komplete)? 2016/06/04 11:09:10 (permalink)
Thanks for that - I will avoid those kits then since I either have exactly them from the AD1 collection or something very similar (if there were updates when they made their way to AD2).

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Re: Addictive Drums 2 - Which ADPaks to get (with Sonar Platinum and NI Komplete)? 2016/06/04 11:11:58 (permalink)
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I highly recommend the Reel Machines.  Great electronic drum samples.




This ^^
 

 
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Re: Addictive Drums 2 - Which ADPaks to get (with Sonar Platinum and NI Komplete)? 2016/06/04 11:37:41 (permalink)
My apologies. I just opened AD1 and the default kits are a Sonor, Tama, Pearl and DW (none called Black Velvet).
 
I think the reason I passed over the Black Velvet was because the samples sounded like one of those (or maybe one of the kits in my other programs) so I wanted something more distinctive/unique.
 
It just seemed like I could already do what the Black Velvet offered.
 
Also now I remember why I passed over the Prog kit. I already had it. lol... In fact that might have been the kit I figured would be one of the ones that could cover what the BV kit would do.
 
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Re: Addictive Drums 2 - Which ADPaks to get (with Sonar Platinum and NI Komplete)? 2017/05/15 14:47:39 (permalink)
Kind of resurrecting an old thread here; hope it's ok. I just upgraded from X3d to Splat and noticed that AD2 was not even available for download in the XLN Online Installer. Then I read earlier in this thread that I have to select at least one AdPack before I can download AD2. Which brings me to my question:

I have the Indie AdPack for AD1. Would there be any reason to select it for AD2, or would I just use AD1 if I wanted those sounds? Same question for the Studio Rock/Pop/Prog packs, which I understand were the included kits in AD1. Right now I'm leaning toward Fairfax 1 and 2 along with Black Velvet, and just use AD1 when I want to use the Indie or Studio kits.

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Re: Addictive Drums 2 - Which ADPaks to get (with Sonar Platinum and NI Komplete)? 2017/05/15 20:48:16 (permalink)
If you take your XLN registration code for AD2 provided in your Cakewalk account, you should be able to add it to your existing XLN account just by opening up and running the XLN Online Installer. 
 
Look for the button labeled "Register Product", near the top of the XLN Online Installer.  Once registered, you should see the additional product selections you are eligible to make.  I'm fairly sure everything is cumulative, and the new choices will just be added to your existing account.

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Re: Addictive Drums 2 - Which ADPaks to get (with Sonar Platinum and NI Komplete)? 2017/05/16 00:02:13 (permalink)
Personally, I got the Jazz brushes, Studio POP (pretty tight), and Session Percussion. Everything is excellent. I will be gettin the rest of the Jazz bundles at some point.
 
Got my teenage son the heavymetal pack. It's incredible for what it is (not my interest, but still excellent).

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Re: Addictive Drums 2 - Which ADPaks to get (with Sonar Platinum and NI Komplete)? 2017/08/19 00:48:11 (permalink)
Sorry for the necro-bump I have X3 Producer and upgraded to SPLAT lifetime updates. I don't recall ever choosing 3 Adpaks I have Studio Rock, Studio Pop and Studio Prog but I don't remember choosing them.
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Re: Addictive Drums 2 - Which ADPaks to get (with Sonar Platinum and NI Komplete)? 2017/08/19 00:48:12 (permalink)
Sorry for the necro-bump I have X3 Producer and upgraded to SPLAT lifetime updates. I don't recall ever choosing 3 Adpaks I have Studio Rock, Studio Pop and Studio Prog but I don't remember choosing them.
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Re: Addictive Drums 2 - Which ADPaks to get (with Sonar Platinum and NI Komplete)? 2017/08/19 01:59:26 (permalink)
Sign into the XLN Online Installer, and select the "Register Product" button at the top.
 
Choose "Register Product Key" and enter the latest AD2 key from your Cakewalk account.
 
You will be informed if there are any additional products that you can choose from.

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Re: Addictive Drums 2 - Which ADPaks to get (with Sonar Platinum and NI Komplete)? 2017/08/19 02:24:56 (permalink)
Thank you for the info. Where do I find that code? I've been all over my Cakewalk page and command center
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