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@Cakewalk - Apologies for posting this in here, but ...
... can we please have back the minute or two 'silent' edit grace period after creating a post in the forums.
Everyone makes the odd grammatical error or spelling mistake which we don't spot until we've actually submitted a post, and being able to edit those mistakes out without leaving the telltale 'edited' notification was a real boon of these forums.
Obviously we do need a short time limit on silent editing to make it obvious when someone has altered a post to completely change its meaning, but this is unlikely to be a factor in the minute or so following making the post.
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December 31, 15 6:01 PM
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☄ Helpfulby Zargg71 December 31, 15 7:53 PM
I heartily agree. Its feature I also miss. I should think two or three minutes grace should do the job.
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Re: @Cakewalk - Apologies for posting this in here, but ...
December 31, 15 6:10 PM
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+10 
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Re: @Cakewalk - Apologies for posting this in here, but ...
December 31, 15 6:18 PM
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Just a quick Q, I would have no preference either way myself, but I am just curious as to why it even matters ? I understand in the instance of someone changing a post in an underhanded manner, but just can't actually see how it matters otherwise ?
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December 31, 15 6:20 PM
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That sounds reasonable to me. Steve, I think everyone knows you at all knows that being grammatically correct matters to you and if you make an edit for grammar, it is because of a typing error, I know it anyway. You are proper. I am verbose... It could affect one's life.. https://hbr.org/2012/07/i-wont-hire-people-who-use-poo  (LOL... it isn't poo, it is poor grammar). Julien
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December 31, 15 6:33 PM
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jih64
Just a quick Q, I would have no preference either way myself, but I am just curious as to why it even matters ? I understand in the instance of someone changing a post in an underhanded manner, but just can't actually see how it matters otherwise ?
Some things matter to other people that don't matter you. We don't have to understand it, just respect it, it doesn't matter why. It does matter though. J
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Re: @Cakewalk - Apologies for posting this in here, but ...
December 31, 15 6:36 PM
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jih64
Just a quick Q, I would have no preference either way myself, but I am just curious as to why it even matters ? I understand in the instance of someone changing a post in an underhanded manner, but just can't actually see how it matters otherwise ?
Some things matter to other people that don't matter you. We don't have to understand it, just respect it, it doesn't matter why. It does matter though.
J
Yes I do understand that, but if you take that to it's logical conclusion and apply it across the board with everyone, you wouldn't be able to do anything because no matter what it is, it would matter to someone.
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December 31, 15 7:05 PM
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I know where Steve is coming from, any author or editor knows that upon reviewing text, you'll often find something that wasn't stated clearly enough or had a typo, and make a correkshun. I don't see a problem with the "grace period" although I have no idea whether the current version of the software supports it or not.
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Re: @Cakewalk - Apologies for posting this in here, but ...
December 31, 15 7:07 PM
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The edit grace period is still there... the issue is that one of the servers (the forum uses several) has a clock issue. A Cake employee can reset it, but it only takes about a two weeks before its far enough out of sync to kill the edit grace period again. Edit for a time check The edit text read "post edited by Karyn - January 01, 16 0:19 PM" it was actually 0:07 AM when I did the first edit. Re-edit to add : HAPPY NEW YEAR 
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December 31, 15 7:10 PM
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Then edit the post and we will give the grace! J
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December 31, 15 7:21 PM
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Just a quick Q, I would have no preference either way myself, but I am just curious as to why it even matters ? I understand in the instance of someone changing a post in an underhanded manner, but just can't actually see how it matters otherwise ?
In the past we have had a short period of time to edit a post we just made without the whole world knowing about it. If you have never had that or knew about it I can see it would not matter to you. At present we can't do any editing at all without it being noted even if it was within the same basic time of producing the post. It is a rather small thing to those that have never had an alternative but not so small to those that remember it.
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December 31, 15 7:28 PM
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I remember it....but if it concerns some...why not include WHY it was edited...even if for grammer. Seems like the edited posts are in the 5+ page threads, ....which you know what usually happens in those. Seems like it's kinda like you don't want the world to know you're wearing your T-shirt inside out! ;-D EDIT:...had my socks on the wrong feet and needed to switch...
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Re: @Cakewalk - Apologies for posting this in here, but ...
December 31, 15 7:42 PM
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I constantly have to edit my posts ...just got done having to do one just a min ago ... The worst time I have to edit is when I use my Mac ...for some reason that thing likes to do a spell check where it changes not only the spelling but the actual meaning of the words I'm trying to say Kenny
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December 31, 15 7:43 PM
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jbow
Then edit the post and we will give the grace!
J
As long as we don't say grace ...
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Re: @Cakewalk - Apologies for posting this in here, but ...
December 31, 15 7:45 PM
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I know where Steve is coming from, any author or editor knows that upon reviewing text, you'll often find something that wasn't stated clearly enough or had a typo, and make a correkshun. I don't see a problem with the "grace period" although I have no idea whether the current version of the software supports it or not.
I agree. (But the bold text ,Craig  Sorry!) I do this all the time, as English is not my native language. All the best.
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Re: @Cakewalk - Apologies for posting this in here, but ...
December 31, 15 7:45 PM
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Just a quick Q, I would have no preference either way myself, but I am just curious as to why it even matters ? I understand in the instance of someone changing a post in an underhanded manner, but just can't actually see how it matters otherwise ?
In the past we have had a short period of time to edit a post we just made without the whole world knowing about it. If you have never had that or knew about it I can see it would not matter to you. At present we can't do any editing at all without it being noted even if it was within the same basic time of producing the post. It is a rather small thing to those that have never had an alternative but not so small to those that remember it.
No I knew about it, and I can recall reading threads about it on occasion, still never understood myself how or why it matters apart from the scenario I mentioned above. If you review your text, and find something wrong, spelling, grammar, an omission, you just correct it, why does it matter if it says post edited bla bla ? and perhaps if it is such a problem, why not take the extra time that you used to find the actual error after the fact, and apply it to before you hit the Submit Post button ? and if it is an omission, what is wrong with a separate post with the omission as an addendum ? I just never understood the issue when reading the threads in the past, just curiosity, really have no issue either way, just curious as to what I am missing :) I care about my gramma as well, great gramma actually, she is 106 years of age and doing well. Anyway hope that for those it is an issue for get a satisfactory result.
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December 31, 15 7:50 PM
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I care about my grammar as well, great gramma actually, she is 106 years of age and doing well.
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December 31, 15 9:17 PM
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jih64
Just a quick Q, I would have no preference either way myself, but I am just curious as to why it even matters ? I understand in the instance of someone changing a post in an underhanded manner, but just can't actually see how it matters otherwise ?
I AGREE WITH OP...... It had happened to me and before I could edit someone are quoted and other became amused and requoted.. I edited my post but the quotes remained. English is not my language. I typed wrong eventually misspelled and clicked ENTER.. The spelling was wrong for a simple word "where" 
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December 31, 15 9:26 PM
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Snehankur
I AGREE WITH OP......
It had happened to me and before I could edit someone are quoted and other became amused and requoted..
I edited my post but the quotes remained.
English is not my language. I typed wrong eventually misspelled and clicked ENTER..
The spelling was wrong for a simple word "where"
And again there I can't see the issue, in your case what does it matter if there is or isn't an edit time stamp ? the outcome remains the same ?
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December 31, 15 9:31 PM
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Harmony Central doesn't have the grace period. So when I edit something, if it's not significant, like a typo or something, I just let the little edit checkmark exist. But, if it's something I said that needed a correkshun [Edit: I meant to say correctshun], then I'll put edit in brackets, and make the text red.
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December 31, 15 9:37 PM
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Zargg71
I do this all the time, as English is not my native language.
Just because you speak English better than Americans, no need to rub it in But FWIW, often my corrections are because upon re-reading, I realize something may not work for those for whom English is not their native language. Like if I say that something happens "right off the bat," then later realize in Google translate, it might say "correct not on cave-dwelling mammal." So I edit it to say "initially."
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December 31, 15 9:50 PM
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Zargg71
I do this all the time, as English is not my native language.
Just because you speak English better than Americans, no need to rub it in
But FWIW, often my corrections are because upon re-reading, I realize something may not work for those for whom English is not their native language. Like if I say that something happens "right off the bat," then later realize in Google translate, it might say "correct not on cave-dwelling mammal." So I edit it to say "initially."
I often see I left out a word or made a typo and see this after I press submit post. I try hard to limit my errors but it seems I make more than my allotment.
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December 31, 15 10:52 PM
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When someone has subscribed to a thread, which version of the post do they get in email: the initial post or the post-edit-grace-period post?
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December 31, 15 11:17 PM
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Will a faselity of a privue befor post be dificult?
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December 31, 15 11:32 PM
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Snehankur
Will a faselity of a privue befor post be dificult?
There is a 'preview' available before you post.
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January 01, 16 0:32 PM
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How can I never noticed that ?? YESS PREVIEWED, never noticed that before. THANK YOU JEFF.
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☄ Helpfulby SteveStrummerUK January 01, 16 10:34 AM
Meh, another plus for the mobile version of the forum... Don't see the edit comments either.
The comment about the server clock drifting I simply find appalling if true. Especially a system connected to the internet where access to the USNO atomic clock is FREE. Who would actually pay a server who is that inept?
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Re: @Cakewalk - Apologies for posting this in here, but ...
January 01, 16 9:26 AM
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I guess, I am a culpret in this spelling error correction, and editing feen...in some regards...and have had post edits simply corrupt and not get posted....Seems then the forum goes into a odd looking state for me...Just text.
Not sure why..But if it has anything to do with refreshing the forums...I guess over loadiing the refresh has issues with the webmaster, and the systems doing so....Perhaps?.
I guess I qill at the thought...Computers are running all this stuff...I would imagine the fractal of repeat, rinse, and keep it same....until a new pathway can be set...or more resources applied...or...updates are issued..or bugs get fixed...We stand in constant err.
We the sheeple must **** our corrective nature....for two or three minutes..So you can do , do diligence....in returns?
Are we then misundertaken?...or being mislead into err...lol
Just asking.
Cheers.
P.S..fractals are not infinite..(in change to better the whole).they are repeating finite entities....of err.
If one continues with the err...then it is repeating into the new...then the new will contain err....err that is not corrected when found...because of...X...is asking err to be put forward for too long!.
Just saying...we all err...but if we correct our err asap...would it not help make things more of understanding intent, rather than letting err be?....
Just saying how it should be...But now is stated to not do right off the bat....as instruction?.
Wow...the world sure is bent, if this holds true in all things...eh?
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Re: @Cakewalk - Apologies for posting this in here, but ...
January 01, 16 10:40 AM
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Just a quick Q, I would have no preference either way myself, but I am just curious as to why it even matters ? I understand in the instance of someone changing a post in an underhanded manner, but just can't actually see how it matters otherwise ?
Hi Jeff It doesn't matter that much, it's just that I used to find it convenient to quickly correct the inevitable mistakes quickly and 'cleanly', if you see what I mean. I remember an English teacher of mine at school always stressed that it should be considered an honour that someone else might want to read what one had written, and as such, it was the least one could do to make one's prose legible and easy to read. Even now, in the age of Facebook, SMS and other media not even dreamt of when I was at school, I still try to write (type!) using proper English grammar and spelling. I agree with others that suggest that edits made much later to a post should include a sub-note to explain why the post has been edited - to me that's simply good manners, and I've been doing so since I first joined here. It really does go a long way in alleviating the obvious frustrations when someone changes the whole meaning of a post without stating the reasons.
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Re: @Cakewalk - Apologies for posting this in here, but ...
January 01, 16 10:48 AM
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SteveStrummerUK
I remember an English teacher of mine at school always stressed that it should be considered an honour that someone else might want to read what one had written, and as such, it was the least one could do to make one's prose legible and easy to read. Even now, in the age of Facebook, SMS and other media not even dreamt of when I was at school, I still try to write (type!) using proper English grammar and spelling.
+1 I can't stand when I post something, and then find that I've misspelled a word, or forgotten a period or something. Bring back the two minute grace period. Edited for spelling!!!
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