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Re: Plugin upsampling in Sonar - my experience so far
2016/07/19 16:17:14
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so pushing the 2x button (so that it is lit) turns off upsampling?
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Re: Plugin upsampling in Sonar - my experience so far
2016/07/19 16:30:20
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Lit = on and upsampling. The documentation was wrong earlier. Not sure if they have fixed it yet.
The easiest way to confirm - your CPU usage should be quite a bit higher with upsampling turned on.
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Re: Plugin upsampling in Sonar - my experience so far
2016/07/19 16:46:50
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Re: Plugin upsampling in Sonar - my experience so far
2017/05/13 04:45:17
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Sorry to bump an old thread, but is there a way yet to enable upsampling for ProChannel FX yet?
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Re: Plugin upsampling in Sonar - my experience so far
2017/05/13 04:46:13
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also - what does this mean and how do I achieve it?
"Review your plugins and synths and make sure any 32-bit plugins you are bridging in are set to load in jBridge"
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Re: Plugin upsampling in Sonar - my experience so far
2017/05/13 08:40:29
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Re: Plugin upsampling in Sonar - my experience so far
2017/05/13 20:02:42
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Far as I can fathom it's oversampling which isn't quite the same thing as absolute double sample rate. I tend think of it like upscaling a DVD movie to 1080i on a Bluray player. It's certainly sharper than a standard DVD playback but not quite as fluid as the Bluray playback.
I think you will notice a difference with x2 when you channel it through an analogue whether it be virtual or hardware where musical distortion is applied.
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Re: Plugin upsampling in Sonar - my experience so far
2017/05/13 20:04:18
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pwalpwal
AdamGrossmanLG
Sorry to bump an old thread, but is there a way yet to enable upsampling for ProChannel FX yet?
see earlier in the thread for the manual process http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3390123
I meant like a 'reasonable way', like in the GUI. We shouldn't have to resort to doing those steps just to enable upsampling plugins, especially since there is a way for FX not in the ProChannel.
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Re: Plugin upsampling in Sonar - my experience so far
2017/05/14 00:05:19
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☄ Helpfulby AdamGrossmanLG 2017/05/14 00:45:17
I wouldn't expect to hear any difference from upsampling ProChannel plugins, with a possible exception being the FET compressor at super-fast attack times.
Remember, the main benefit of oversampling is to raise the Nyquist frequency, making aliasing is less likely. The only plugins that need that treatment are those that might generate new frequencies above Nyquist. For the most part, that means amp sims and distortion plugins.
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Re: Plugin upsampling in Sonar - my experience so far
2017/05/19 14:27:21
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And basically all synths will benefit, how much a little depending on frequency content.
A subbass sine maybe not audible.
Sample based synth with content like strings certainly audible, often one sample resampled a couple of times, not every note pitch is recorded. To resample rich frequency content so every harmonic is properly moved is hard to do.
Every pitch of a note will have less aliasing done at double samplerate, and then downsampled again.
As even one synth is audible difference, and what this does to a full mix with 5-10 synths is substantial.
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Re: Plugin upsampling in Sonar - my experience so far
2017/05/19 16:05:16
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Before Cakewalk implemented upsampling, I had to go through a very laborious process of saving out MIDI and audio files, saving presets in amps and synths, opening them in 96 k projects, rendering, etc. It was a pain.
I don't upsample everything but there are some instruments and amp sims (as well as a dynamics processors sometimes) where it really makes a cumulative difference. When I render a final mix, if I don't have upsampling enabled, the overall sound quality is audibly and obviously less "defined."
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Re: Plugin upsampling in Sonar - my experience so far
2017/06/21 00:32:48
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Just Curious :
What happens if a VST or effect has Internal Oversampling e.g PRO-G and i turn that on (x4) then i enable the platinum oversampling (x2) also ?
is the result : ( 44100 project sample rate ) x4 Pro-G Oversampling ) =176400 x2 plat upsample =352800
or does plat not upsample plug ins that can oversample ?
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Re: Plugin upsampling in Sonar - my experience so far
2017/06/21 02:45:55
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As the old saying goes..."it depends." An oversampling algorithm has to operate in real time. Upsampling on render is an offline process that can take its time doing the sample rate conversion / rendering / "downshifting."
Upsampling can indeed make a difference with synths that oversample. Please check out the following video.
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Re: Plugin upsampling in Sonar - my experience so far
2017/06/21 08:59:12
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