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Re: Haas effect and loudmouth dolts on Reddit 2016/05/04 18:49:44 (permalink)
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We used to have two responses to trolls.  One was to actually agree with them and say "It's exactly the same theory as [insert even more ridiculously stupid theory here]!"  
 
The other response was pretty funny.  All of us in one musician forum have "Bert" names (yes, I'm Craigbert there).  When someone would complain that a troll was stomping all over another forum we would "Send in the Berts!" and all join just to mock, harass and, eventually, cause the troll to shut up or leave.  Hehe...  I must admit it was fun!
 

 


How weird. Some time ago I mentioned a book by PG Wodehouse called The Clicking Of Cuthbert to my girlfriend. She proceeded to laugh uncontrollably (quite scarily in fact) and said that she'd never heard the name Cuthbert before. She then proceeded to add "thbert" to everything. "Pass me that spoonthbert" etc. We still do it without thinking about it. Glad to hear we're not the only ones adding Bert to things.

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Re: Haas effect and loudmouth dolts on Reddit 2016/05/04 19:00:21 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Beagle 2016/05/09 13:29:23

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Re: Haas effect and loudmouth dolts on Reddit 2016/05/04 19:13:34 (permalink)
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craigb
We used to have two responses to trolls.  One was to actually agree with them and say "It's exactly the same theory as [insert even more ridiculously stupid theory here]!"  
 
The other response was pretty funny.  All of us in one musician forum have "Bert" names (yes, I'm Craigbert there).  When someone would complain that a troll was stomping all over another forum we would "Send in the Berts!" and all join just to mock, harass and, eventually, cause the troll to shut up or leave.  Hehe...  I must admit it was fun!
 

 


How weird. Some time ago I mentioned a book by PG Wodehouse called The Clicking Of Cuthbert to my girlfriend. She proceeded to laugh uncontrollably (quite scarily in fact) and said that she'd never heard the name Cuthbert before. She then proceeded to add "thbert" to everything. "Pass me that spoonthbert" etc. We still do it without thinking about it. Glad to hear we're not the only ones adding Bert to things.



That's weird. 
 
 

 
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Re: Haas effect and loudmouth dolts on Reddit 2016/05/05 02:22:03 (permalink)

 
My great Grandpappy Haas used to tell me it was all about the panning.

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Re: Haas effect and loudmouth dolts on Reddit 2016/05/05 03:49:40 (permalink)
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My great Grandpappy Haas used to tell me it was all about the panning.




Did he have any gold records? 

 
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Re: Haas effect and loudmouth dolts on Reddit 2016/05/05 04:32:32 (permalink)
Panning is not particularly critical for the effect; it has a small bearing on the perception of the direction of the fused sound, but the delay is the important factor.
 
> He also claims that the delay time should be calculated as a fraction of the sample rate of the project.
 
That's a big load of billy bollocks.  Time is time.  Only worry about its calculation if the perceiver is travelling at relativistic speeds relative to the timekeeper or sound source.  In fact if that was the case, you've probably got other, much bigger problems to worry about :-)
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Re: Haas effect and loudmouth dolts on Reddit 2016/05/05 04:35:34 (permalink)
Sounds like the DN is getting what he really wants: Attention! 

 
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Re: Haas effect and loudmouth dolts on Reddit 2016/05/05 08:03:07 (permalink)
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Sounds like the DN is getting what he really wants: Attention! 




Oh wow ... he gets his 15 minutes to take his poop? How exciting ... we must get one of the Kardashians to help! Should make his day!

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Re: Haas effect and loudmouth dolts on Reddit 2016/05/05 23:37:47 (permalink)
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Panning is not particularly critical for the effect; it has a small bearing on the perception of the direction of the fused sound, but the delay is the important factor.



If both the original and delayed signals are mono and dead center, there is no illusion of width at all. All I hear is the change of tone from the comb filtering. I mean you might perceive some kind of depth from the fact that there's a "reflection" after the initial signal, but you can achieve a small illusion of depth from a mono delay with delay times well over the 40-50ms limit of the Haas effect. 
 
His main point is that no panning is needed to apply the Haas effect a stereo signal - all you need to do is delay one channel. But my argument was that a stereo signal, in terms of what comes out of the speakers (which, after all, is what matters here), is effectively two mono signals panned hard left and right. The left channel goes to the left speaker, the right channel goes to the right speaker. So if you have a stereo signal that's identical on left and right and then you delay one of the channels, you start with a mono sound which then becomes stereo. But this stereo width is only achievable if each signal comes from a different point. And when you have two speakers, that's exactly what you have. You cannot achieve stereo width with one speaker no matter how you slice it. And then he proceeded to write about 20 comments detailing how I probably live in my mom's basement and use a pirated copy of Fruity Loops. Oh and he's a pro who "learned his sh*t" on an expensive audio production course so I should just STFU. So you can imagine what kind of person I'm dealing with. 

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Re: Haas effect and loudmouth dolts on Reddit 2016/05/06 00:42:27 (permalink)
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But my argument was that a stereo signal, in terms of what comes out of the speakers (which, after all, is what matters here), is effectively two mono signals panned hard left and right. The left channel goes to the left speaker, the right channel goes to the right speaker.



Whoa!!!  I've had that completely wrong all this time!!!
 
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Re: Haas effect and loudmouth dolts on Reddit 2016/05/06 07:57:20 (permalink)
... I don't know if you had it wrong, your headphones were probably just 180 degrees out of phase.

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Re: Haas effect and loudmouth dolts on Reddit 2016/05/06 08:07:16 (permalink)
I used to be wrong, but then I turned things around 360 degrees! 

 
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Re: Haas effect and loudmouth dolts on Reddit 2016/05/06 16:44:09 (permalink)
A Paraphrase on Reddit RUle number 1 and 2
 
Rule # 1 Reddit is full of neckbeard douchebag hipster pimple faced basement dwelling numnutz
 
Rule# 2 see rule # 1

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Re: Haas effect and loudmouth dolts on Reddit 2016/05/07 23:34:46 (permalink)
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Re: Haas effect and loudmouth dolts on Reddit 2016/05/07 23:47:45 (permalink)
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--lao tzu


Bless you!

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Re: Haas effect and loudmouth dolts on Reddit 2016/05/08 00:04:38 (permalink)
Need a tissue?

 
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Re: Haas effect and loudmouth dolts on Reddit 2016/05/08 01:15:50 (permalink)
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Need a tissue?




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Re: Haas effect and loudmouth dolts on Reddit 2016/05/09 09:43:49 (permalink)
What's Reddit?

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Re: Haas effect and loudmouth dolts on Reddit 2016/05/09 10:13:20 (permalink)
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What's Reddit?





That sounds like a half finished joke. 

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Re: Haas effect and loudmouth dolts on Reddit 2016/05/09 12:42:50 (permalink)
So, are you going to finish the joke? 
(I'm curious what Reddit is too.)

 
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Re: Haas effect and loudmouth dolts on Reddit 2016/05/09 12:45:52 (permalink)
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What's Reddit?




Reddit is full of neckbeard douchebag hipster pimple faced basement dwelling numnutz
 
IT is a collection of forums covering any topic you can think of
 
 

 

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Re: Haas effect and loudmouth dolts on Reddit 2016/05/09 13:07:22 (permalink)
Ham N Egz
 
IT is a collection of forums covering any topic you can think of
 

Hamster grooming?
Muffler bearings repair?
Seaweed sculpture?
BECAN?
Am?
Daryk's uncle's huge co..... never mind.
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Re: Haas effect and loudmouth dolts on Reddit 2016/05/09 13:14:28 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby bapu 2016/05/09 13:49:59
So Reddit is like the forum for the FSF?

 
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Re: Haas effect and loudmouth dolts on Reddit 2016/05/09 14:02:21 (permalink)
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So, are you going to finish the joke? 
(I'm curious what Reddit is too.)


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read it 2016/05/09 15:04:30 (permalink)
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Ham N Egz
 
IT is a collection of forums covering any topic you can think of
 

Hamster grooming?

 
https://www.reddit.com/r/brushybrushy/
 

Muffler bearings repair?

 
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicAdvice/
 
 

Seaweed sculpture?

 
https://www.reddit.com/r/...d_sculpture_oh_my_god/
 

BECAN?

 
 
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bacon/
 
 

Am?

 
 
https://www.reddit.com/r/chords
 
 
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Daryk's uncle's huge co..... never mind.




 
https://www.reddit.com/r/roosters
 

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Re: read it 2016/05/09 16:14:30 (permalink)
Reddit is actually an excellent place for discussion (and finding new music) PROVIDING you find the right subreddits. Not the ones populated by flame-war kiddiewinkles.

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Re: read it 2016/05/09 16:59:57 (permalink)
kiddiewinkles!  great name for a boy band.  The wiggles started that phenemenon, and look , they're like 60 years old now.  Long fad.
 
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Re: read it 2016/05/09 17:19:07 (permalink)
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Reddit is actually an excellent place for discussion (and finding new music) PROVIDING you find the right subreddits. Not the ones populated by flame-war kiddiewinkles.



I was being snarky previously, there are some good forums there . not only music wise but hobbies, life, sex, etc

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