LP-Multiband Compressor

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2016/08/09 08:05:24 (permalink)

LP-Multiband Compressor

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I'm wondering if there's going to be any pre-sets developed for the LP-MB other than the number of frequency bands used, as currently provided, as there seems to be at least a few for the LP-EQ, or perhaps incorporated into a new mastering template? I find these somewhat useful for a starting point in learning.
While I've been using Ozone lately in trying to improve my mastering skills, sometimes the number of pre-sets provided is overwhelming, both in overall, and individual module pre-sets, that I get lost in its jungle of sound choices, and found I've have been going back and using the Sonar mastering templates to get the sound I like.
 
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    rebel007
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    Re: LP-Multiband Compressor 2016/08/09 08:39:58 (permalink)
    I'm with you on that one John. I too find presets an invaluable starting point sometimes.

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    Re: LP-Multiband Compressor 2016/08/09 09:05:02 (permalink)
    Yes, presets would be very helpful here also!

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    Re: LP-Multiband Compressor 2016/08/09 10:13:09 (permalink)
    +1 Presets

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    Re: LP-Multiband Compressor 2016/08/09 11:46:57 (permalink)
    Presets for mastering products are virtually useless and using them makes a habit out of a bad practice. I understand the desire for an easy fix and it may seem logical to use them as "starting points" but doing so reveals a fundamental flaw in thinking. It is not a great idea to master your own mixes anyway but if you must, you need to compare your mixes to a bunch of commercially released reference tracks and decide what "problems" your mix has. No preset is ever going to do either of those things for you. You might as well click a "randomize" button and keep hitting it until you get something that sounds better. I think Craig did a pretty decent tutorial on "home mastering" on the forum at some point. Watching it will do more for your results than any amount of included presets ever could, and will easily save you the time it takes to watch it.
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    Re: LP-Multiband Compressor 2016/08/09 15:40:28 (permalink)
    For the benefit of anyone who (like me) hadn't seen the video mentioned above, here is the link:
     
    http://forum.cakewalk.com/A-Public-Service-Video-about-Mastering-with-SONAR-m3376633.aspx
     
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    Re: LP-Multiband Compressor 2016/08/10 00:35:17 (permalink)
    Thanks for video, examples are good, Granted, its probably not ideal to try and master your own mixes, particularly that you also wrote, played, sang, and recorded everything yourself on as well, may as well try mastering as well, Ill probably be endlessly tweaking something anyways, LOL. In my case I've got nothing to lose anyways, just my fundamentally flawed way of thinking. :\
     
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    Re: LP-Multiband Compressor 2016/08/10 03:31:09 (permalink)
    Don't be like that, it wasn't meant as an insult, most of us have made all of the same mistakes over time and I know I still make plenty every day. Watch the video, it'll really help. And it should also give you insight into WHY presets basically start you off on the wrong foot.
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    Re: LP-Multiband Compressor 2016/08/12 07:58:00 (permalink)
    No offense taken, your totally right, if we didn't make "mistakes" we would never learn, sometimes we forget some people are doing this as a career, whereas others are doing it as a hobby, and still somewhat further down the learning food chain. I totally get what you’re saying, and understand commercial mastering is a skill developed over many years, with no pre-set shortcuts to natural intuition and knowledge and experience in musical theory, scientific, technical and even physiological aspects.
    I guess what helps me with "pre-sets" or more so pre-set templates in the self learning process is to provide some direction on modules used, placement in signal flow, and intent to achieve a certain overall sound or effect (affect), say like the "Loud and Scooped", mastering template, or in individual modules like Sonitus MB, “Smooth”, Hard, soft, etc. and still learning what all these terms mean audibly, so wouldn't say they're "virtually  useless" in the learning process, and apparently they are provided for some reason (?). While Ozone may be way over the top with hundreds of combinations possible between overall and individual module pre-sets, and may be somewhat like a "randomizer" it still exposes you to possible choices, and allows you to hear how certain choices can affect the overall sound. 
     
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