Sacalait
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Using Platinum With RME UFX
Anyone? The price just bounced down $500 and I'm tempted to pull the trigger. For the record, I'm using a VS700. If anyone has used both, your input would be invaluable. I understand this may be better suited for the "Hardware" forum but I wanted to get this in front of as many folks as possible. Thanks in advance.
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Re: Using Platinum With RME UFX
September 07, 16 4:18 PM
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Not sure, but i think the UFX is an updated, bigger version of the Fireface 400. I have had the RME FF 400 for 7 years and it is really a great piece of gear. Latency is very manageable even with high powered plug ins. Midi timing is excellent. I've had to work with a couple different sound cards lately and my RME is by far the best. I paid $1200 for it at sweetwater.
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Re: Using Platinum With RME UFX
September 07, 16 4:27 PM
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I have an RME MultiFace II that I've owned for at least 7 years. It still works like the day I bought it! I know they make rock-solid gear and write rock-solid drivers. I'd be very interested to hear if anyone has used BOTH the UFX and the VS700.
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Re: Using Platinum With RME UFX
September 07, 16 5:18 PM
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I have had the RME Fireface UFX for years and it is rock solid and before that the Fireface 400 which I still use in my live rig.
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Re: Using Platinum With RME UFX
September 07, 16 5:52 PM
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Sonar Plat and rme ufx here! just works. great drivers. monitor controler. I say go for it!!!!
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Re: Using Platinum With RME UFX
September 07, 16 7:21 PM
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I've been using the RME UFX with SONAR for several years. No problems with drivers or firmware updates. The UFX can also be used as a stand-alone recorder.
RME recently released a UFX+ which added a some new features. Maybe that's why there's a price drop on the UFX.
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Re: Using Platinum With RME UFX
September 07, 16 7:53 PM
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I'm a Multiface II user. It can be a little difficult to set up, but the performance has been solid.
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Re: Using Platinum With RME UFX
September 07, 16 8:39 PM
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I have ufx in the studio and the babyface in the office.
Rock solid!
RME drivers are the standard by which all others are judged.
It'll take a day or two to wrap your head around TotalMix.
Once you do nothing else will satisfy, the routing options are endless.
Just the best!
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Sacalait
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Re: Using Platinum With RME UFX
September 07, 16 9:10 PM
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Thanks to all! I understand the "rock solid" part because I own a MultiFaceII and use it still! No doubt RME producst are solid!
What about the sound of the converters? Anyone migrated from something else and give me an idea of how it "sounds"?
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Re: Using Platinum With RME UFX
September 07, 16 9:20 PM
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☄ Helpfulby Sacalait September 07, 16 9:57 PM
I went from Tascam FW-1884 to RME Fireface UFX about three years ago. Greatly improved the sound quality of anything I record. It did not improve my talent though.  Now if someone went from Lynx to RME you might hear the opposite story. 
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Re: Using Platinum With RME UFX
September 08, 16 2:56 AM
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Sacalait
Anyone? The price just bounced down $500 and I'm tempted to pull the trigger. For the record, I'm using a VS700. If anyone has used both, your input would be invaluable. I understand this may be better suited for the "Hardware" forum but I wanted to get this in front of as many folks as possible. Thanks in advance.
hmmm, over here in Europe where they manufacture these things price is still the same, close 2K EUR ... that's unfair ... anyway, decided to leave the semi-stable Roland drivers behind myself and almost went for the RME UFX, but then gave the MOTU 1248 AVB a test run before ordering the RME and never returned the MOTU. might be worth to consider - similar specs, same price category, better scalability if you need more I/O, otherwise very comparable ...
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Re: Using Platinum With RME UFX
September 08, 16 3:37 AM
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rme ufx here...have never looked back...was pretty xee here in Australia late last year but it really is a solid piece of hardware. Love the TotalMix software and regular driver updates. :-)
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Re: Using Platinum With RME UFX
September 08, 16 4:31 AM
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Sacalait
Anyone? The price just bounced down $500 and I'm tempted to pull the trigger.
Hi, where i can get that for $500? I need a new interface!
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Re: Using Platinum With RME UFX
September 08, 16 6:21 AM
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Sonar with RME Babyface for mobile recording and UFX in use here. The UFX is a great product. The drivers are the best Part of every RME product. Stable like a rock and the lowest latency i ever achieved. Works perfect with Sonar. Cristal clear preamps! No colour, but they can easily compete with really expensive clear colourless preamps.
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Re: Using Platinum With RME UFX
September 08, 16 6:55 AM
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fireface 802 looks pretty cool. :-)
I love my RME. If I could find a UFX for $500, I'd buy one.
StudioCat > I use Windows 10 and Sonar Platinum. I have a touch screen. I make some videos. This one shows how to do a physical loopback on the RME UCX to get many more equalizer nodes.
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Re: Using Platinum With RME UFX
September 08, 16 7:17 AM
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I'm pretty sure the OP said it was 500 down from the former price, not 500 total. 500 down would still make it roughly 1400/1500.
Great product though, I'm really happy with my UCX.
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Re: Using Platinum With RME UFX
September 08, 16 7:29 AM
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Hi. I have the "little brother", the Ucx. I am very pleased with it. No issues whatsoever. Super stable drivers. I will never trade it, unless I need more inputs. Then I would upgrade to an Ufx, or 802  All the best.
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Re: Using Platinum With RME UFX
September 08, 16 8:09 AM
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Have been using a UFX with various releases of Sonar for a few years - now running Platinum. Overall, very happy with the UFX. As others have said, the drivers and firmware are regularly released and are of high quality. Totalmix software is also quite good. I did have some issues years ago with arming of tracks taking some time - but in a subsequent driver update, that issue doesn't exist. Aside from that very minor issue - it's been absolute rock solid.
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Re: Using Platinum With RME UFX
September 08, 16 10:50 AM
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RME themselves also have a very thorough video set on TotalMix. A total of 10 videos on how to use it. Also, the last interface I bought before RME was an E-MU 1820, and the latency was vastly improved from the 1820. I have had my Multiface for 4 years. The only issue I had was that the PCI pins needed cleaning and would cause my computer to blue screen. I took an eraser to the pins, boom. Worked again. TotalMix set on YouTube (from the official RME channel): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPzJmLMv0gQ
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vanceen
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Re: Using Platinum With RME UFX
September 08, 16 11:02 AM
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I'm using a UFX after using an RME FF800 for years.
It's great. The preamps sound very good.
Be aware there are only four inputs with preamps, though. If you want more, you need outboard preamps of some variety. I've used 16 inputs at once by going through eight channels of an Allen & Heath 16:2 mixer and four channels of ADAT.
The only "problem" I can report is that the UFX driver doesn't seem to like switching back and forth between sampling rates. If you're working at 96 kHz and switch to 96 kHz, you may get some delays. I'm not even sure this has to do with the UFX, and I can't compare it to other makes because I've been using RME for quite a few years. So it's not much of a complaint.
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Sacalait
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Re: Using Platinum With RME UFX
September 08, 16 1:55 PM
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As for the price, it's down from $2295 (US) to $1795 in most retail locations in the States.
I have a pretty sweet array of external mic pre's. I rarely used the mic pre's on the VS 700- although when I did I wondered why I wasn't! It's just when you have a couple of Pacifica's and a UA LA610, and you work mostly with songwriters- not bands- I can't see using "lesser" pre's.
I'm going for the UFX. I know there's a UFX + on the horizon but it looks to be around $2700 US. I read specs on both and there's very subtle difference. I don't see the need for MADI but maybe in a few years I will.
I appreciate everyone's thoughts!
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Re: Using Platinum With RME UFX
September 08, 16 4:25 PM
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I went from the vs 700 to ucx ....the vs 700 was making me crazy with its fan noise ... I tried everything then got rid of it .... Exept the fantom and arx expansions : zero regrets Be sure to get the remote it s super usefull Appollo is a grzat interface also ...specially if you need confort effects during tracking
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Re: Using Platinum With RME UFX
September 08, 16 6:00 PM
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I've been using a UFX for a while now.
Rock solid and very low latency drivers under Windows and OS X using USB2, USB3 or Firewire and excellent sound quality, no complaints at all.
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karma1959
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Re: Using Platinum With RME UFX
September 09, 16 10:04 AM
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vanceen The only "problem" I can report is that the UFX driver doesn't seem to like switching back and forth between sampling rates. If you're working at 96 kHz and switch to 96 kHz, you may get some delays. I've seen this as well. Sometimes it works after a delay, sometimes it freezes or crashes Sonar on occasion. I've submitted support incidents with RME and Cakewalk a while back about this, but frankly, it hasn't been a big enough issue for me, so I haven't chased the vendors on this. If I need to change sample rate, as a workaround, I close Sonar, change the sample rate in RME's software, then restart Sonar. Not the smoothest thing in the world, but a minor gripe.
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Re: Using Platinum With RME UFX
September 09, 16 10:43 AM
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Sacalait
I'm going for the UFX. I know there's a UFX + on the horizon but it looks to be around $2700 US. I read specs on both and there's very subtle difference. I don't see the need for MADI but maybe in a few years I will
I've not looked at the UFX+ in detail, my UFX does all I require. A quick look at the differences suggests to me that the UFX+ is possibly intended to make up for the lack of internal PCIe slots in current Macs, hence the Thunderbolt socket (which makes sense even for smaller setups as firewire sockets are now a thing of the past on Macs) and MADI and the extended number of channels it can handle with the dsp beefed up to cope with them. Basically it strikes me as intended as a possible replacement for PCI-based cards that, unlike PCI cards, doesn't require an expensive Thunderbolt to PCI slot converter box interface. As for the price, RME have never been cheap, but they are examples of high-quality German engineering that do what they claim to do and do it very well.
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Sacalait
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Re: Using Platinum With RME UFX
September 09, 16 11:32 AM
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vanceen The only "problem" I can report is that the UFX driver doesn't seem to like switching back and forth between sampling rates. If you're working at 96 kHz and switch to 96 kHz, you may get some delays.
I've seen this as well. Sometimes it works after a delay, sometimes it freezes or crashes Sonar on occasion. I've submitted support incidents with RME and Cakewalk a while back about this, but frankly, it hasn't been a big enough issue for me, so I haven't chased the vendors on this.
If I need to change sample rate, as a workaround, I close Sonar, change the sample rate in RME's software, then restart Sonar. Not the smoothest thing in the world, but a minor gripe.
I can't see it as an issue for me at all. The VS700 HAS to be turned off before switching sample rates. I'm so used to it that I'd probably do it with the UFX anyway. Thanks for the info.
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Re: Using Platinum With RME UFX
September 09, 16 11:45 AM
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Only minor consideration on my part is USB 3.0 for UFX+ over USB 2.0 on the UFX. Given the general thumbs up by current UFX/USB 2.0 users, the $500 discount sounds like a good deal.
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Re: Using Platinum With RME UFX
September 09, 16 1:20 PM
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Another RME UFX with SONAR Platinum user here.
Here's my take...
If you are a musician composing and recording yourself, the UFX is a bit overkill. If you have plans to record others for profit as an audio engineer, the UFX is a must have. You simply cannot go wrong with it and it is flawless with SONAR.
It will allow you to deliver separate zero latency headphone mixes to all your musicians, with or without effects (while still recording dry into SONAR). You can route anything to anywhere (reamping guitar for example). Sending an output of clean guitar DI to a reamp box and into your amp, while simultaneously recording the mic off the amp.
By plugging in cell phones, and mics, and live internet audio streams, I have recorded live interviews with several different mixes feeding multiple destinations. The list goes on and on...
It seems there is nothing the RME UFX cannot do (in audio terms, of course it cannot make your coffee etc...).
They will have to pry my UFX from my cold dead hands before they ever get it away from me...ha ha ha.
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Sacalait
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Re: Using Platinum With RME UFX
September 09, 16 1:56 PM
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Thanks Sylvan. I'm a pro. I make a living as a producer. So the way you describe it is good news indeed. I was actually prepared to shell out $2295 US! I guess the stars were in my favor! I pulled the trigger and FedEx has it set for delivery tomorrow! I appreciate everyone's thoughts and responses!
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Re: Using Platinum With RME UFX
September 09, 16 2:02 PM
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☄ Helpfulby jackson white September 09, 16 2:42 PM
Another thing the UFX can do is make a very good live mixer in three rack spaces if a couple of 8-input ADATs and an iPad running Totalmix is added in. The routing possibilites mean that splitting the stage mics/lines so separate FOH and foldback mixes can be provided isn't necessary.
It makes sense for a single person recording their own stuff if that person uses hardware synths or processors, where low latency monitoring either direct through the interface (maybe using the built-in eqs, compression and reverb/delay in the monitoring path) or through a DAW's input echo functions is very useful indeed. And unlike many interfaces, there's no "built in safety buffer" that the driver fails to report to the DAW.
For someone who basically works entirely in the DAW using soft-synths and only needs a couple of good very low noise inputs for guitar/microphone the Babyface might be the better, or at least the less expensive, option.
Actually, the only shortcoming of the UFX as far as I'm concerned is that in instrument mode the preamp impedance according to the manual is 470KOhms, where 1MegOhm or higher matches amp input impedances better. Though in practice it doesn't seem to wipe out noticeable amounts of treble any more than a buffered Tubescreamer does when "off".
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