MIDI CUT vs MIDI COPY --- source of alignment error bug

It only took me about two years, but finally identified one more source of midi position errors that creep into projects. 
 
Try this, in a project with at least 2 midi tracks, midi events (notes and controllers) in one of them, and no midi events at time 1:00:00:00.  
 
Select using time range:  1:00:00 to end of project. 
Copy  (CTL-C).  
Move to another midi track.   Set now time to 1:0:0.  Paste. 
 
So far, so good. 
 
Now, select using time range again: 1:00:00 to end of project. 
Cut (CTL-X)
Move to another midi track.  Set now time to 1:0:0.   Paste. 
 
Presto.    Your data is not correctly aligned.   If you watch the 'selection range', as soon as you "CUT", it changes.  
 
You must, with CUT-PASTE, set now time to the beginning of the changed selection range, while with COPY-PASTE, you must set Now time to the beginning of the original selection.    

Yet more on selection screwed up by Sonar's idiotic Clip management:   Select the whole project by time, or use CTL-A.    then work down the project in track view, selecting one midi track at a time, modifiying something that matters to you.  If you should come along to a track where the "clip" happens to be shorter than the rest of the project, your selection suddenly changes to be a time range that matches that shorter clip.    Select the next track, thinking you're still working with the entire time range?    Presto:  your modification is only going to to affect the part of that new track's events that lie within the time range of the shorter track.    
This is still another reason for those incredibly mysterious situations, where parts of a project are wildly different than what you thought you had done.    
 
Craig, don't even bother to say, "it's by design".   It's a terrible design, it's a design bug, like all the other crazy selection issues.  

williamcopper
Craig, don't even bother to say, "it's by design."

 
I didn't have to, Brundlefly has already pointed out why your short-sighted (I prefer to use descriptive terms, rather than pejorative ones like "idiotic") approach would have unwanted consequences in the majority of use cases.
 
Hopefully at some point you will realize that software doesn't learn you, you learn software.

williamcopper
Why am I emphatic (other than by nature)?  Because I have lost hundreds of hours of work from exactly these selection bugs.   And I feel quite sure that others have too, just read back through the forums about mysterious changes in midi data that can't be explained.  

 
It sounds like you don't understand the difference between Selection and Focus.

The OP is correctly reporting a change in the behavior of Cut/Paste that occurred sometime in the Platinum development cycle. 
 
I have attached examples of Copy/Paste vs Cut/Paste in Sonar X3 and Copy/Paste vs Cut/Paste in Sonar Platinum. 
 
If you observe the location of the pasted clip after a cut, you can clearly see that Platinum does not paste at the same location as Sonar X3. 
 
Without being part of the Cakewalk development team, I cannot say that this is a "bug" or "by design".
 
Sonar X3 Copy/Paste followed by undo and then Cut/Paste:

 
Sonar Platinum Copy/Paste followed by undo and then Cut/Paste:

 
Hope this helps,
-- Ron

Thanks, Ron. 

brundlefly

williamcopper
Edit --- correction:   If you don't change anything in the selection, the time range does not change.   But as soon as you USE the selection for something, and THEN select a track number, THEN the selection changes if and only if the clip in the newly selected track is SHORTER than the clip in the previous selected track.

That's not my experience. The time range changes the moment you select a clip that has a different length and/or start/end time than the previous selection. It doesnt only apply to selecting shorter clips, and the change isn't deferred until after you change the track selection as your description seems to suggest.
 
If you're seeing something different you need to give detailed steps.

 
@brundlefly,
 
I believe @williamcopper is selecting time and track number, not clicking clips.
 
The second animation I provided in post #9 (http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3500699) demonstrates the behavior that @williamcopper is reporting.  There has been a change in the behavior of cut/paste in some situations between Sonar X3e and Sonar Platinum.
 
-- Ron