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Lifetime Platinum...is there a vocoder anywhere in the synth plug ins that can be..
...used as a live effect while recording mic'd vocals?
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Re: Lifetime Platinum...is there a vocoder anywhere in the synth plug ins that can be..
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Re: Lifetime Platinum...is there a vocoder anywhere in the synth plug ins that can be..
2016/11/16 08:31:19
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StudioCat > I use Windows 10 and Sonar Platinum. I have a touch screen. I make some videos. This one shows how to do a physical loopback on the RME UCX to get many more equalizer nodes.
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Re: Lifetime Platinum...is there a vocoder anywhere in the synth plug ins that can be..
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☄ Helpfulby Zargg 2016/11/16 13:57:04
The last version of SONAR to bundle Pentagon was X3. There is no vocoder plug-in bundled with Platinum. Here is a thread that contains some options http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3024127. Since that thread xils-lab released XILS Vocoder 5000. There may be others; I have not looked recently.
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Re: Lifetime Platinum...is there a vocoder anywhere in the synth plug ins that can be..
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Re: Lifetime Platinum...is there a vocoder anywhere in the synth plug ins that can be..
2016/11/16 20:03:53
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thanks...it's weird Cakewalk, with doing everything including throwing in the kitchen sink can't do a decent vocoder out of the box!
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Re: Lifetime Platinum...is there a vocoder anywhere in the synth plug ins that can be..
2016/11/16 20:29:56
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guitz
thanks...it's weird Cakewalk, with doing everything including throwing in the kitchen sink can't do a decent vocoder out of the box!
Every one has different needs. Some want a Sampler (5 page thread), some want a vocoder, some want a good drum sampler. cant please everyone. Pentagon does work pretty good though. I've used it.
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Re: Lifetime Platinum...is there a vocoder anywhere in the synth plug ins that can be..
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chuckebaby
guitz
thanks...it's weird Cakewalk, with doing everything including throwing in the kitchen sink can't do a decent vocoder out of the box!
Every one has different needs. Some want a Sampler (5 page thread), some want a vocoder, some want a good drum sampler. cant please everyone. Pentagon does work pretty good though. I've used it.
Pentagon is nowhere to be found in SONAR lifetime platinum though?
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Re: Lifetime Platinum...is there a vocoder anywhere in the synth plug ins that can be..
2016/11/16 23:39:14
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That is correct. As i mentioned above, it was last bundled with X3. If you want to use Pentagon, perform an advanced install of an older version of SONAR adding the plug-in. Keep in mind it is a DX plug-in, install the appropriate 32 or 64bit version.
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Re: Lifetime Platinum...is there a vocoder anywhere in the synth plug ins that can be..
2016/11/17 22:42:55
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scook
That is correct. As i mentioned above, it was last bundled with X3. If you want to use Pentagon, perform an advanced install of an older version of SONAR adding the plug-in. Keep in mind it is a DX plug-in, install the appropriate 32 or 64bit version.
nah. too much trouble that shouldn't be required. i'll just search for some freeware , while you work on getting Pentagon available for Platinum :P
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Re: Lifetime Platinum...is there a vocoder anywhere in the synth plug ins that can be..
2016/11/18 01:30:53
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All this about Pentagon going missing raises an interesting conundrum of sorts: Is it illegal to share?
Pentagon is just a folder here: C:\Program Files\Cakewalk\Shared DXi\Pentagon on Win7-64bit. I mean, it used to be "free" packaged I guess with X3 or whatever.
Then there's things like V-vocal, etc., going "missing". Luckily I have become a backup nut, and keep every plug-in I've ever had over all these years burnt to DVD, just in case the next disaster hits.
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Re: Lifetime Platinum...is there a vocoder anywhere in the synth plug ins that can be..
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Re: Lifetime Platinum...is there a vocoder anywhere in the synth plug ins that can be..
2016/11/18 20:54:05
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GregGraves
All this about Pentagon going missing raises an interesting conundrum of sorts: Is it illegal to share?
Pentagon is just a folder here: C:\Program Files\Cakewalk\Shared DXi\Pentagon on Win7-64bit. I mean, it used to be "free" packaged I guess with X3 or whatever.
Of course it is not permitted to share any of the software bundled with SONAR. Pentagon was never "free." It was bundled as part of SONAR distributions. There was a time when Cakewalk offered Pentagon for sale. The separately sold Pentagon included a 32bit VST version.
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Re: Lifetime Platinum...is there a vocoder anywhere in the synth plug ins that can be..
2016/11/19 10:30:15
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If you had X3 back in the day, you can still download it and install Pentagon. Sorry to mislead. I often am unaware when items stop being included in the latest release because I still have them on my computer.
StudioCat > I use Windows 10 and Sonar Platinum. I have a touch screen. I make some videos. This one shows how to do a physical loopback on the RME UCX to get many more equalizer nodes.
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Re: Lifetime Platinum...is there a vocoder anywhere in the synth plug ins that can be..
2016/11/19 13:27:39
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gswitz
If you had X3 back in the day, you can still download it and install Pentagon. Sorry to mislead. I often am unaware when items stop being included in the latest release because I still have them on my computer.
I did have X3...so would I just re-install X3 so Pentagon would install with it, then delete X3 and Pentagon would remain or...?
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Re: Lifetime Platinum...is there a vocoder anywhere in the synth plug ins that can be..
2016/11/19 13:47:22
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No need to install everything but you will need to run the X3 installer, after the serial number screen is the basic/advanced install option. Select the advanced install option. From the component checklist, deselect everything except Pentagon, if that is all you wish to install.
After installing Pentagon, if you prefer not to run SONAR as administrator and are comfortable editing the registry, change permissions on HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\rgc:audio software\DXi\Pentagon I to allow Users Full Control.
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2016/11/26 20:31:28
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scook
No need to install everything but you will need to run the X3 installer, after the serial number screen is the basic/advanced install option. Select the advanced install option. From the component checklist, deselect everything except Pentagon, if that is all you wish to install.
After installing Pentagon, if you prefer not to run SONAR as administrator and are comfortable editing the registry, change permissions on HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\rgc:audio software\DXi\Pentagon I to allow Users Full Control.
first install attempt, I got an error saying it was unable to load Pentagon1 as an instrument in Platinum. I only installed Pentagon1 and cut short the pop-up box for some Microsoft thing that I guess X3 needs to run..can't remember the name, is that necessary for Pentagon1 to run in Platinum? Any other things to make it work in Platinum?...I've deleted the X3 install of Pentagon1 and will try again...
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Re: Lifetime Platinum...is there a vocoder anywhere in the synth plug ins that can be..
2016/11/26 20:34:31
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guitz
first install attempt, I got an error saying it was unable to load Pentagon1 as an instrument in Platinum.
This reads like the usual message when trying to load Pentagon without running SONAR as administrator. Try again running SONAR as administrator or perform the registry hack I describe above.
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2016/11/26 20:43:32
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guitz
first install attempt, I got an error saying it was unable to load Pentagon1 as an instrument in Platinum.
This reads like the usual message when trying to load Pentagon without running SONAR as administrator. Try again running SONAR as administrator or perform the registry hack I describe above.
ok thanks
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2016/11/26 20:48:35
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scook
No need to install everything but you will need to run the X3 installer, after the serial number screen is the basic/advanced install option. Select the advanced install option. From the component checklist, deselect everything except Pentagon, if that is all you wish to install.
After installing Pentagon, if you prefer not to run SONAR as administrator and are comfortable editing the registry, change permissions on HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\rgc:audio software\DXi\Pentagon I to allow Users Full Control.
first install attempt, I got an error saying it was unable to load Pentagon1 as an instrument in Platinum. I only installed Pentagon1 and cut short the pop-up box for some Microsoft thing that I guess X3 needs to run..can't remember the name, is that necessary for Pentagon1 to run in Platinum? Any other things to make it work in Platinum?...I've deleted the X3 install of Pentagon1 and will try again...
Just when I thought we may have found a loop hole in Steve's database. He comes back with the correct answer..  . He's right, you do need to run it as Administrator. Is there anyone that can challenge this man and find one of his mistakes ? I beg of you.
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Re: Lifetime Platinum...is there a vocoder anywhere in the synth plug ins that can be..
2016/11/26 21:12:58
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looks like it's already set for Administrator?  Tried again, same error... 
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Re: Lifetime Platinum...is there a vocoder anywhere in the synth plug ins that can be..
2016/11/26 21:35:52
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The registry entry is and that is a problem if SONAR is NOT run as administrator. Either run SONAR as administrator or allow Users (the last group in the image above) Full Control.
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2016/11/26 22:18:22
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scook
The registry entry is and that is a problem if SONAR is NOT run as administrator. Either run SONAR as administrator or allow Users (the last group in the image above) Full Control.
doh, so obvious...how did I miss the checkbox!..Thanks ps- holy cow, there are some great useful synth sounds in here, hows come it wasn't bundled with Platinum, anyway, very cool
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Re: Lifetime Platinum...is there a vocoder anywhere in the synth plug ins that can be..
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StudioCat > I use Windows 10 and Sonar Platinum. I have a touch screen. I make some videos. This one shows how to do a physical loopback on the RME UCX to get many more equalizer nodes.
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