Bristol_Jonesey
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Re: what other DAWS have you tried?
2016/12/16 14:03:32
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I cut my teeth on hardware and only moved to software in 2007. I downloaded & tried Cubase but could not make sense of it whatsoever. Eventually after a lot of research I settled for SONAR, not least because of the existence of this forum.
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Hatstand
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Re: what other DAWS have you tried?
2016/12/16 14:15:20
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Bristol_Jonesey I downloaded & tried Cubase but could not make sense of it whatsoever.
Like jumping off the Clifton suspension bridge! IMHO Cubase is for people who complain about Sonar's staff view limitations. It is good for composers with music theory qualifications far above mine. I am primarily a technician that can play a number of instruments well enough to have respected ideas about how arrangements can be enhanced, which is why people pay me. Ask me to notate it and I am an empty keg of beer :)
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Jesse G
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Re: what other DAWS have you tried?
2016/12/16 14:29:11
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I've used Sony Sound Forge 8, Pro Tools 7 if I remember correctly, Cakewalk Home studio, Cakewalk Project P5 v2.5 I loved this DAW (I wished Cakewalk would have done more with it), Reason and Digital Performer. My Favorite was always Sonar, so I stuck with it and I'm still with it now
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LLyons
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Re: what other DAWS have you tried?
2016/12/16 14:35:03
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Cut my teeth on Cakewalk since version 2. Studio One 3. Different tools entirely... I reach for Platinum first - its fast, its efficient, I just know it and it doesn't fail. 80% of my work is on Platinum, using a MOTU AVB interface. If its live, many inputs and mics, I use Studio One. I have a CS18ai, RM32ai (love them for the price \ performance) and a nice touch screen. The entire system is homogeneous and its FAST to setup and use. 95% of the use time in a live environment is mic placement, and input patching from other systems. I have many input \ output assignment configurations. I usually dial one up, and I am good to go with track assignments. Its no where good as templates, but takes care of a ton of basic setup. I have learned a bit of Pro Tools to keep up to date with other writing partners. Learning is a joy to me - however, remembering is the tough part.. :o) Lance
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Re: what other DAWS have you tried?
2016/12/16 14:57:06
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Sonar was my first computer based recording program. Before that I was using a Fostex VF160. I tried Pro Tools (MP9) as most of my counterparts in Nashville use ProTools. I just couldn't get into it. I have Presonus Studio One 3, as I got it free with a Presonus hardware purchase. It doesn't get used either. Sonar does everything I want to do (and much more).
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davidt64
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Re: what other DAWS have you tried?
2016/12/16 15:21:17
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I've uses Pro tools. could never get it to sound as good as Sonar.
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Echojester
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Re: what other DAWS have you tried?
2016/12/16 15:50:16
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I say all daws should have a vst version so we don't gave to decide :) Like how I run FL Studio in sonar so I get best of both :D Started with ableton years ago Droped ableton like a bad habit once I demoed FL Studio,Still use FL demo studio one and Cubase when I found myself limited within FL for audio editing then one day while trying to decide I found a copy of cakewalk 8 in a box in my closet installed it loved it now I bounce back and forth or use them together
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Zargg
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Re: what other DAWS have you tried?
2016/12/16 16:31:56
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LLyons Learning is a joy to me - however, remembering is the tough part.. :o) Lance
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TPayton
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Re: what other DAWS have you tried?
2016/12/16 18:30:37
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Really old Fruity Loops-didn't click with it Acid-fun for looping play, toy-like, didn't like doing audio on it Harrison Mixbus-Loved it, but way too unstable. Had to scrap it. Ableton- Ok, but not a keeper for me Cakewalk Guitar Tracks 2,3. pro-Loved all of the versions of guitar tracks, and am saddened that they are not a part of the current line-up. Pro Tools-Was very unstable on windows when I tried it for my personal use. I occasionally use it at a friend's place as he considers it and Macs to be the only tools capable of creating professional results. Over the years i have especially disliked Pro Tools' proprietary business model. Sonar X1, Artist, Professional, Platinum-I currently use Platinum regularly and like it. It has been mostly stable for me with the occasional odd problem with an update. Reaper-seemed really messy. Didn't like it. Mixcraft 6,7-I am currently a Beta-tester for 8. Really like this program. Simple interface, easy learning curve, and gets more powerful with each version without sacrificing ease of use or making the interface fussy looking. Easy on cpu usage. (this program will still run on XP.) My only gripe is that more emphasis goes into loop content and virtual instruments than audio.
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Ozz
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Re: what other DAWS have you tried?
2016/12/16 18:57:05
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Started with Cakewalk back in the late 80's....then tape only for awhile....then made the jump back into Cakewalk with Pro Audio 9....used that for several years....then Sonar 8.5, X3 and now Platinum. I also own and occasionally play around with Reaper...which I like, but I'm just more used to the way Cakewalk/Sonar works that I tend to always gravitate to it. I did use another one too...back in the late 90's/very early 2000's...but can't even remember what it was....so it didn't leave a major impression on me, I guess.
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Sanderxpander
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Re: what other DAWS have you tried?
2016/12/16 19:42:00
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I've used Cubase (but not for a long time), Logic (from 4 onwards, still use it sometimes), ProTools (but only in larger studios, never for my own projects), Ableton (still use it a lot), Reason (but before it could be considered a DAW)
Almost every DAW has a few features that all the others are missing. Features from other DAWs that I don't own but would like to see in Sonar are: - Easier beat extraction/time warping from Ableton - Non destructive quantize from Logic - The powerful/fast step sequencer based editing from FruityLoops - Note expression from Cubase
Obviously there are many more but those would make a huge difference for my workflow. That said, most of my productions use a lot of software instruments and live vocals so the Melodyne integration via ARA has been a spectacular upgrade for me, and none of those DAWs have it (though they have their own proprietary pitch/time solutions).
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tlw
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Re: what other DAWS have you tried?
2016/12/16 20:32:19
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Music X. An early 90s Amiga application, MIDI sequencing only if I recall correctly. Cubasis. Again, early/mid 90s. Buggy, incomplete in many ways and the current iOS version of Cubasis blows it away. As it should, an ipad is a bit more powerful than a 486 PC, even if the PC did have a massive 4 megabytes of RAM. And it was a cheaper way into Cubase. Used it until I discovered Sonar (version 4 I think) and found I much prefer Sonar. Pro Tools. I've sat in a studio or two and tried to sort out a few things like eq settings or mix levels I couldn't find an adequate way to explain to the engineer. Never owned it. It used to be expensive and tied to limited and very expensive hardware. MIDI was non-existent or nearly so, unique third party plugin format.... Basically a step backwards from Sonar in many ways. Live. I just don't like it, nor the instruments, nor the effects or the workflow and I've little use for bundled loops. Though I have used Live Lite at the rare times I've needed to take some synths and something to flexibly send MIDI to hardware somewhere.
Currently using Logic Pro and awaiting MacOS Sonar. Current only PC is unreliable and Windows 10 is a very good reason not to spend money to replace/rebuild it when we've Macs anyway.
I also have the basic version of Mixbus, which is interesting and it certainly does have a recognisably "American studio" kind of quality to its audio. Whether that's better or worse than any of the other console amd channel strip emulators around or even no console emulation at all is a matter of taste really. It's the only DAW I consider two screens pretty much essential for, though more than one screen helps a lot with any DAW.
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kitekrazy1
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Re: what other DAWS have you tried?
2016/12/16 21:11:02
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I have a lot of DAWs. I don't dare list them all and I probably couldn't do it accurately. I prefer FL and Live over Sonar only because it works better for what I do. Orchestra stuff I leave for Sonar. I'm a polygamist when it comes to DAWs.
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Re: what other DAWS have you tried?
2016/12/17 05:54:08
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- Sonar Plat : My current main DAW. Also use Pro Audio 9 before. - Live : My previous main daw. - Reason : Still using it, I like the concept to use only the tools you have and spent more time on making music. And since version 6 it can record audio so I don't need to rewire to other DAWs which is real pain to me lol. But sometime when working with so many instrument/effect tracks, the Reason's rack gui is a bit mess. - Cubase : Have a change to try since SX to Pro 9 now but never has a change to use it seriously. - FL Studio : Like cubase, familiar since it call FruityLoops but never use it seriously. I don't like the gui. - Acid : Love the concept of acidized. Use it before Ableton Live has been introduced.
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pwalpwal
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Re: what other DAWS have you tried?
2016/12/17 06:08:09
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cakewalk pro audio, sonar, tracktion, reason, live, studio one, auria pro, project5, cubase, mixbus but these days i actually only use, in order of most used: studio one live auria sonar mixbus /fwiw
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Maarkr
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Re: what other DAWS have you tried?
2016/12/17 14:06:23
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my first was Sony Acid... v2 ~1999. Actually i think i had v1 but got rid of the floppy, lol. I still own Acid because of the ease of use when messing with samples, and my first 2 albums were done on that software. I demo'd FL long ago. Live is more for DJ/live use, and i couldn't find a bargain on it. Took a big step and went to Cubase 4? for a while but it was just too clunky... had to spend time looking everything up. Tried Sonar demo but not crazy about it back then... a lot like Cubase. Got Reason and used it for some songs on an album but it just seems more like a primarily synth-based daw. Learning curve is different from mainstream DAWs, so my brain got overloaded... i needed to simplify. Started working with Reaper, which I still have and like but don't do much pro stuff with it. I did some album tracks on it also which worked out well. I'll open it up to record some midi or sample stuff for transfer to my keyboards. Been using SPLAT for a few years now and like it mostly because of the included features and fx, prochannel, etc. I usually changed DAWS when a price deal/crossgrade became available for them.
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BJN
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Re: what other DAWS have you tried?
2016/12/17 21:41:53
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MandolinPicker Started with a very simple DAW called Kristal Audio (http://www.kreatives.org/kristal/) which eventually became Studio One (although I've never used Studio One). Have used Audacity but didn't really care for it. We use Reaper 5 at our church and it does the job. Started with Cakewalk using Home Studio 2002 and been updating/upgrading on and off with them ever since through Platinum Lifetime. What I have found is that each DAW does pretty much the same thing, but they each do it in a different way. You need to find the DAW that works well for what you want to do and how you want to do it. For me, that is Sonar. YMMV.
I started with the same, though at the time was kind of like cubase did not know i morphed into Studio One. Actually was using standalone Digital Recorders before Kristal and before that a couple of 4 track reel to reels. My PC was so crap at the time it would run Protools on the Delta Soundcard. Was still on standalones for ages but eventually upgraded PC and was going to get Cubase SX3 when a friend turned me onto Sonar 6 he was using on his PC. I used a free LE version of Samplitude that came as a CD on a Music mag just after I got S6. Have skipped a few upgrades up to X2. Somewhere in there when Reaper was a buzz that was as good as the big guys I bought at $50 lifetime support. Only thing is I could not get Reaper to work so stayed on Sonar. Samplitude though easy enough didnt have the appeal of Sonar maybe because Sonar 6 Pro Cost more and was a bigger investment to get the most out of. I feel it is best to put all your eggs in one basket when it comes to learning a DAW.
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The Grim
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Re: what other DAWS have you tried?
2016/12/17 23:41:05
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for me i first used cakewalk pro audio 8/9, then have had all versions from then on, always the top version, now i have platinum (lifetime). had and used reaper ever since reaper was. tried out studio one 3 professional on release and that was that, no turning back, does everything i need in a way which just clicks with me, absolutely rock solid, love the features, i use it 99% of the time. have started using platinum a bit more recently, but studio one 3 is still where it's at for me. i could mention mixbus, but i wont
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SuperG
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Re: what other DAWS have you tried?
2016/12/17 23:59:21
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I've looked at Cubase, for all of about 30 minutes. There was nothing compelling to me compared to Sonar. Other software I've owned; CoolEdit Pro (MultiTrack) (way back in the day); Sony Vegas; Sony Acid, Sony Sound Forge.
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Nino Vargas
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Re: what other DAWS have you tried?
2016/12/18 14:20:52
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Studio One Reason Ableton Live Logic Cubase Reaper Sonar x1 ,x2 , x3 ,Platinum
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WallyG
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Re: what other DAWS have you tried?
2016/12/18 14:55:12
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Does Bars and Pipes for the Amiga count? Walt
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Razorwit
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Re: what other DAWS have you tried?
2016/12/18 16:39:34
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Hm, I guess I'll play. I have (and regularly use): PT12 - It's fine and super ubiquitous but I have 48 channels of conversion and they want me to pay HOW MUCH to get more than 32? Yeah...no thanks. Cubase 8 - It's fine, but the whole "only one clip playing at a time on a track" makes me want to have a seizure. I mean, I have to pre-define my punch points when doing overdubs? Meh. Reaper 5 - I like it. Particularly for multi-track drum editing. It'd give Sonar a serious run for it's money in my joint if it had ARA. Studio One 3 - I really like it. A lot. It's getting close to supplanting Sonar as my primary DAW. No fully routed and bussed multi-out track templates (super handy for stuff like Superior Drummer), but really good handling of external hardware FX and good multi-track drum editing. Sonar - What can I say? Look at my forum join date. Couple of nagging issues that are making Studio One really attractive for me right now, but still mostly my go-to. All of that said, I'm not much of a DAW zealot. Which flavor of DAW I use is one of the least important decisions I make. The whole "DAW X is better than DAW Y" debate has always seemed to me like chefs arguing about which brand of pan to use. I mean, Caphalon vs All-Clad? Meh...I'm just here to make a bourguignon, so pick a pan cause I got a lot of onions to chop. Dean
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wolfstudios53
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Re: what other DAWS have you tried?
2016/12/19 07:17:38
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WallyG Does Bars and Pipes for the Amiga count?  Walt
I used "Bars and Pipes" for many years. Loved the interface.
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gswitz
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Re: what other DAWS have you tried?
2016/12/25 15:39:08
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@razorwit
I feel it is a bit more like choosing a kitchen. Same idea, but more stuff to find than a single pan.
StudioCat > I use Windows 10 and Sonar Platinum. I have a touch screen. I make some videos. This one shows how to do a physical loopback on the RME UCX to get many more equalizer nodes.
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