Jesse G
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[Per John] - Presonus Faderport 8 opinions requested
Has anyone taken a good look or purchased the New Presonus FaderPort 8? As much as I like my MCU, the faders are starting to present the calibration errors when I start my MCU. It still works well, however, I think it's time to get another controller. Since the price is only $499.00, I thinks it's worth a look to use in Sonar Platinum with Mackie Mode. What do the rest of you think about the controller? See the link below to see the FaderPort Video PreSonus FaderPort 8 Control Surface
post edited by Jesse G - 2017/02/04 12:45:46
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Re: Presonus Faderport 8 review?
2017/02/04 07:23:31
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I thought you were going to review it? If you're asking for the opinion of others should that not be it the title?
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Re: Presonus Faderport 8 review?
2017/02/04 07:55:59
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haven't seen this yet but as far as your calibration errors, have you tried to open up the back of the MCU and spray some deoxite on the fader tracks ? this might help / quick fix.
Sometimes the faders get hung up when they get dirty. by spraying the rail you can free it up and revive the life of the fader.
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Re: Presonus Faderport 8 review?
2017/02/04 08:07:11
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I would think its a big step down to go from a real Mackie Control to just about anything else. I think Chuck is giving good advice.
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Re: Presonus Faderport 8 review?
2017/02/04 08:56:23
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In many cases having the "real" thing over a copy or "just like" is preferred.
There are exceptions to the rule, as we have seen in the Pedal Steel Guitar industry. The newer "just like Brand X" Pedal Steel Guitars are actually better than Brand X (and Brand X is no longer being produced).
My experiences with Presonus are not good. Every device I tried (bought and returned) had some type of hardware problem. Mine may just be the exception, but I've tried several firewire interface units and all 3 had a hardware problem of some type. I recently (last summer) bought a new USB 3.0 interface unit and it died on the second day (and has been replaced by an MOTU).
I would try to clean/lube the faders as suggested.
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Re: Presonus Faderport 8 review?
2017/02/04 09:04:07
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Re: Presonus Faderport 8 review?
2017/02/04 12:33:46
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John
I thought you were going to review it? If you're asking for the opinion of others should that not be it the title?
John you are soooooo correct, thanks.
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Re: Presonus Faderport 8 review?
2017/02/04 13:25:18
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I strongly believe that the Mackie Control is the best control surface on the market. Ive watched as so many others have been abandoned through the years yet the Mackie is still there. I have one of the very first Mackie Controls. I traded in a Logic Control for it. I have never looked back. No other CS is as natively supported as the Mackie Control. Most try to simulate it but often they don't have the hardware or the controls to do so. If you really want a good long lasting well supported CS there is only one choice, the Mackie Control.
I will say this because it is up to each developer to support the Mackie Control the support varies from DAW to DAW. What is implemented is left to the DAW developer. Therefore to date no one has come close to what a Mackie is able to do. I know this having had a Logic Control with a fully implemented Logic Platinum 5 to go with it. The depth of control is basically just slightly provided by DAW developers. With the Logic Control and Logic Platinum 5 it could control just about all aspects of Logic. I have not seen this in any other DAW. Believe it or not the case that is deserving of an exception here is FL Studio from Image Line. They put in the time and effort in and did a great job of letting the MC control FL Studio. It can be done. It only takes the will.
I know that they are not the most affordable and there are others that sell at a much more reasonable price and for those that do settle for something else there are good solid CSs that can do a basic job of controlling software. I don't have some smug attitude about this. It is up to each to decide what to get. Life has its own roadblocks therefor get what you can. However, never judge a Mackie by how others work. There is no comparison.
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Re: Presonus Faderport 8 review?
2017/02/05 00:51:29
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Here is a video I looked at a few weeks ago. Made me confident in not jumping in. I have Original Faderport, and see nothing here, other than 7 more faders than the Original. IMHO Presonus Faderport 8 first impressions
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Re: Presonus Faderport 8 review?
2017/02/05 02:56:52
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KingsMix
Here is a video I looked at a few weeks ago.
Made me confident in not jumping in. I have Original Faderport, and see nothing here, other than 7 more faders than the Original. IMHO
Presonus Faderport 8 first impressions
This video has made me confident in not making youtube review with mobile phone in hands after hard night, I got a headache in several seconds watching it 
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Re: Presonus Faderport 8 review?
2017/02/05 06:36:34
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Faderport 8 is an excellent product although nearly double the price here in Australia so that does make it a bit hard.
It is far more than the original Faderport, not just 7 more faders. The real power comes in controlling Studio One. It is light years of even the Mackie in this regard. It is very deep in this regard and unless you use the two things together you will never really appreciate it in that context. But as for controlling another DAW it may only be similar to what is doing that now.
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Re: Presonus Faderport 8 review?
2017/02/05 07:22:15
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I have to give some credit to john. I was in the market for a control surface for many years. I was using a keyboard controller and a VS 20. combined I had 16 faders and 8 knobs but not motorized and it was cheap. I was in the market for a control surface, I Knew John had a Mackie control, so I messaged him and he gave me a good run down on it. then I found one on Craigslist and sent john the link. the guy was cool enough to tell me this was a good deal. Then I bought, hooked it up and it wouldn't scroll, so I messaged him to ask him about that  . (I had the scroll lock on). but I have to say, he went out of his way to help me out in my choice and I am so glad. because this Mackie control is the best choice, best upgrade my studio has had. I know I've said it before john, but seriously, thanks a lot. there's only a few people on this forum that have impacted me as much as you have. very grateful.
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Re: Presonus Faderport 8 review?
2017/02/05 08:00:03
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chuckebaby
I have to give some credit to john.
I was in the market for a control surface for many years. I was using a keyboard controller and a VS 20.
combined I had 16 faders and 8 knobs but not motorized and it was cheap.
I was in the market for a control surface, I Knew John had a Mackie control, so I messaged him and he gave me a good run down on it.
then I found one on Craigslist and sent john the link. the guy was cool enough to tell me this was a good deal.
Then I bought, hooked it up and it wouldn't scroll, so I messaged him to ask him about that .
(I had the scroll lock on).
but I have to say, he went out of his way to help me out in my choice and I am so glad.
because this Mackie control is the best choice, best upgrade my studio has had.
I know I've said it before john, but seriously, thanks a lot. there's only a few people on this forum that have impacted me as much as you have. very grateful.
Thank you Chuck.
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Re: Presonus Faderport 8 review?
2017/02/05 08:51:49
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Re: Presonus Faderport 8 review?
2017/02/06 13:19:03
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Don't get me wrong folks, I love my MCU, I am the proud owner of a MCU and have been for years ever since I gave up my BCF200 many years ago. MY problem is that My Faders were giving me the Calibration error message quite often and it was getting on my nerves. I didn't want to invest in the high price of the MCU Pro but I wanted the same features of my MCU with Sonar. Someone suggested buying CAIG DeoxIT FaderLube which I did and that did the trick. I was so surprised it was that easy after seeing countless post on other forums about this problem with the MCU. A few sprays in the opening for each fader and then move them back and forth a few times and fixed! Thanks,
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Re: Presonus Faderport 8 review?
2017/02/06 15:15:23
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☄ Helpfulby chuckebaby 2017/02/08 07:37:37
Goes to show. We've really become a throw away society. Jesse, you might have ditched a perfectly good unit had you not been in a discussion where it was recommended you use some Deoxit.
Glad you got and then took some good advice. Another win for the Cakewalk forums.
Cheers
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Re: Presonus Faderport 8 review?
2017/02/06 21:40:24
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That is a good outcome and I am glad for the OP.
Just out of interest as a former electronics engineer I can say there are two types of cleaners etc for pots and switches and faders etc.. One type cleans really well and leaves no residue behind. Good for contacts and things that don't move so much. e.g. switches. The other type cleans but leaves a fine lubriacting film behind. Better for anything moving such as pots, faders or motorised faders. It pays to know which one to use in what places. Ask your supplier too if you are not sure, they will tell you which does which etc...
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Re: Presonus Faderport 8 review?
2017/02/08 07:40:27
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awesome news Jess. that Deoxite is worth a million dollars in my studio. Cant tell you how many different kinds I have. simple deoxite cleaner, deoxite + lubricant, pcb cleaner, safe on plastics circuit board cleaner. use it on everything from amplifier knobs (static) to guitar pots (dropping signal as turning) and yes, cleaning faders . Sometimes when amps get old, their input jacks become riddled with oxidation and can actually make a connection from ground to positive, so you think the amp is dead. spray some of that stuff in the input, swab it with a q tip, put a 1/4 jack in and out 100 times, spray again, clean and wha la ! Rock on my man
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Re: Presonus Faderport 8 review?
2017/02/08 17:40:32
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mudgel
Goes to show. We've really become a throw away society. Jesse, you might have ditched a perfectly good unit had you not been in a discussion where it was recommended you use some Deoxit.
Glad you got and then took some good advice. Another win for the Cakewalk forums.
Cheers
Mudge, Soooo true, It things don't work the way we want, we re ready to get rid of them. I was bothered by the calibration error message I was receiving for a few faders, and I never though about the faders being dirty. I wish I could remember who told me to get the Deoxit, but I am so grateful that they mentioned it to me. All of you with controllers that have Faders, especially motorized, touch-sensitive Faders, Get Some Deoxit!!
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Re: Presonus Faderport 8 review?
2017/02/08 18:12:02
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Jesse G
I wish I could remember who told me to get the Deoxit
I swear you don't even read my posts Chuckebaby
have you tried to open up the back of the MCU and spray some deoxite on the fader tracks ? this might help / quick fix.
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Re: Presonus Faderport 8 review?
2017/02/08 22:50:40
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chuckebaby
Jesse G
I wish I could remember who told me to get the Deoxit
I swear you don't even read my posts
Chuckebaby
have you tried to open up the back of the MCU and spray some deoxite on the fader tracks ? this might help / quick fix.
LOL Chuckebaby, Notice I kept saying I didn't know who told me to use the Deoxit over and over again.... I remembered it was you, but as folks read the post, I was hoping they would realize it was you without me having to tell them. Sooooo, actually THEY are not reading your post, because it was written in your post that YOU were writing about the Deoxit that helped ME.
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Re: Presonus Faderport 8 review?
2017/02/09 07:51:50
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Thanks all for the ongoing discussion,
Its helped me know, the Mackie, MCU Pro seems to integrate well with Sonar (and Presonus doesn't), and is well known by Sonar users, as I was going post the MCU question separately, now more confident in making investment in it.
and,
What to use on those scratchy old guitar pots and and amp contacts, (contact cleaner Id been using just didn't cut it).
Cheers all, and have a great day.
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Re: Presonus Faderport 8 review?
2017/02/09 08:41:21
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Jesse G
chuckebaby
Jesse G
I wish I could remember who told me to get the Deoxit
I swear you don't even read my posts
Chuckebaby
have you tried to open up the back of the MCU and spray some deoxite on the fader tracks ? this might help / quick fix.
LOL Chuckebaby,
Notice I kept saying I didn't know who told me to use the Deoxit over and over again.... I remembered it was you, but as folks read the post, I was hoping they would realize it was you without me having to tell them. Sooooo, actually THEY are not reading your post, because it was written in your post that YOU were writing about the Deoxit that helped ME.
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Re: Presonus Faderport 8 review?
2017/02/09 10:13:49
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Great thread on several levels. And always glad to be reminded about Deoxit.
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