guitarwiz1
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SI Bass Help
I just bought Sonar Artist the other day and I have no clue as to what I'm doing.
I've been playing with the drum kits and am starting to get a small grasp of things. What I'm doing now is trying to work with the SI Bass.
I'm trying to create a basic I- IV- V progression. I got the I down, but how do transpose it to the IV & V without re-creating every step?
I still wish I had my bass guitar...that would make life simpler.
Is there anyway I can record a bass line with my guitar and transform it to bass?
Thanks in advance. I'm sure this is only the first of many stupid questions to come. ;)
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Anderton
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Re: SI Bass Help
2017/02/05 11:39:05
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☄ Helpfulby guitarwiz1 2017/02/09 09:18:25
guitarwiz1
I just bought Sonar Artist the other day and I have no clue as to what I'm doing.
I've been playing with the drum kits and am starting to get a small grasp of things. What I'm doing now is trying to work with the SI Bass.
I'm trying to create a basic I- IV- V progression. I got the I down, but how do transpose it to the IV & V without re-creating every step? - Copy the notes (MIDI data) that make up the I part of the progression
- Place the Now time cursor where you want the IV to begin
- Paste the MIDI data
- Select the MIDI data, then use the Process > Transpose function to transpose up 5 semitones to create the notes for IV
- Place the Now Time cursor where you want the V to begin
- Past the MIDI data
- Select the MIDI data, then use the Process > Transpose function to transpose up 7 semitones to create the notes for IV
If Artist had Melodyne (Pro and Platinum do), you could play in a guitar part and convert it to MIDI notes. However another option is to record a guitar line, select the audio, and use Process > Transpose (make sure you check the "Transpose Audio" box) and transpose down 12 semitones. The sound will be sketchy - audio doesn't like to be transposed over too many semitones - but the notes will be in the right range.
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Re: SI Bass Help
2017/02/05 11:46:29
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Have you tried a different plug in besides SI Bass? There are many on the market that are good, but if you are on a budget, there is a decent bass emulation for free called GK Amplification... Go to the Audified website, start a free account, and download the plug in... It's not perfect, but if you are a guitar player, it might be easier then playing keyboards and using midi... https://shop.audified.com...le?variant=28511870727 And Craig posted some nice Gibson bass samples awhile back for Dimension Pro too...
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Re: SI Bass Help
2017/02/05 11:47:21
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guitarwiz1
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Re: SI Bass Help
2017/02/05 12:13:14
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Thanks for the tips guys. I'll be sure to try them all.
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Re: SI Bass Help
2017/02/05 20:23:39
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I like the SI bass. I've never used patterns, I always play the part on my Keyboard.
I wasn't a ever keyboard player, but I can now fumble my way through because with midi you can cheat like crazy. Slow the song down, hit any old note but try and stay sort of in time and then move them to the correct place,,, lots of tricks.
If you upgrade to Professional you can use Melodyn to create a midi part from an audio recording, that's the best way ever. Might be worth the cash.
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guitarwiz1
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Re: SI Bass Help
2017/02/06 07:58:55
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sock monkey
I like the SI bass. I've never used patterns, I always play the part on my Keyboard.
I wasn't a ever keyboard player, but I can now fumble my way through because with midi you can cheat like crazy. Slow the song down, hit any old note but try and stay sort of in time and then move them to the correct place,,, lots of tricks. I did consider this option. I'll have to steal my daughter's Casio and give it a try...First I'll have to pick up an Audiobox USB, and a midi cable. I did try the transpose method. It seemed to work O.K. Right now the only way to record is with my Fender Mustang and a Rockband microphone. I selected a clean 57 bassman, turned down the tone a bit, and transposed down -12. It didn't sound too bad. It could stand some tweaking, but it was a passable bass sound. sock monkey
If you upgrade to Professional you can use Melodyn to create a midi part from an audio recording, that's the best way ever. Might be worth the cash.
I actually started with the Home Studio version. I got it from Sweetwater for $34.99. After reviewing it and comparing it to other versions...I immediately upgraded to the monthly plan for Artist. Once I get my head wrapped around the basic version I'll look into upgrading again. Thanks for the tips.
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Re: SI Bass Help
2017/02/06 09:20:15
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if you get a chance check out some videos on you tube.
Learn to work in the PRV and it will make your life so much easier.
I know when you first look at the PRV (Piano Roll View) it looks confusing but trust me... after you learn the basics, this bass line stuff will be a breeze. you will no longer need menus or commands. you'll simply grab a chunk of notes and move them where you want.
in this case, you would lasso the I part, hold CNTRL and drag it up 4 bars to the IV position.
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Re: SI Bass Help
2017/02/06 09:23:55
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chuckebaby
if you get a chance check out some videos on you tube.
Learn to work in the PRV and it will make your life so much easier.
I know when you first look at the PRV (Piano Roll View) it looks confusing but trust me... after you learn the basics, this bass line stuff will be a breeze. you will no longer need menus or commands. you'll simply grab a chunk of notes and move them where you want.
in this case, you would lasso the I part, hold CNTRL and drag it up 4 bars to the IV position.
What he said.
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