Dangerous behavior with SONAR and Arturia plugins - potential to blow speakers

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Re: Dangerous behavior with SONAR and Arturia plugins - potential to blow speakers 2017/03/12 18:43:42 (permalink)
It's the sound your rig is making when you change presets that intrigues me...I wonder if there are any clues in it as to the source of it.  Processor, ram, sound card, or midi...I wonder if any cc or midi note numbers would be thrown on something like Midi Wrench (iPad app) when you change the preset...
 
I suppose you could try making a copy of that project, then working backwards, deleting track 10, then putting the settings you had on track 10 into track 9, and see if it still happens...If it does, do it to 8, then 7...til you get to one instance of AL...?

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Re: Dangerous behavior with SONAR and Arturia plugins - potential to blow speakers 2017/03/12 19:35:46 (permalink)
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I tried to post a reply on this thread, but it disappeared and I ended up being 'subscribed' to the thread instead (I didn't subscribe).
WTF ?
 
I was going to suggest that the OP downloads and uses the excellent, free auto-mute plug-in called 'Ice9' by Cerberus. Even after the root cause has been identified and fixed too.
I'm not allowed to post a link, so just Google 'Cerberus Ice9'.
 
Put it at the end of your signal chain on your master bus. It could save your speakers and more importantly your ears.
I personally would certainly not use headphones in this scenario in order to prevent damage to my monitors.
Monitors can be replaced, hearing can't.


I restored your post. 

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Re: Dangerous behavior with SONAR and Arturia plugins - potential to blow speakers 2017/03/12 20:37:13 (permalink)
There is another parameter you can adjust in Preferences - in Audio>Configuration File it is down near the bottom of the list of parameters - ThreadSchedulingModel - you can try setting it to a 2, which should give it a better balance with multiple CPU cores.
 
It might not have anything to do with this issue - not sure - but not a bad adjustment to make anyways, 
 
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Re: Dangerous behavior with SONAR and Arturia plugins - potential to blow speakers 2017/03/12 22:24:58 (permalink)
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
Looking at your video this really looks like a bug in the plugin when its loading a preset.
SONAR isn't typically aware of the preset change in the plugin. However it is streaming audio through the plugin. If the plugin doesn't properly handle streaming while a preset is loaded it could cause problems. It could also be a multiprocessing issue in the plugin.
I'll forward this thread to Arturia as well.




Hi Noel
 
I sent you a couple of dump files last year about this issue occurring in my setup. I didn't ever get any feedback about it from you. Well it's still happening only it's not with Arturia plugins. Fabfilter plugins and some waves plugings. Usually compressors that I add to bus. It does not always happen but more often than not during the course of a session. But it does continue to happen and no-one has fixed this or identified why. Same issue of this surge of noise through speakers. I can usually save the track and reload and it always okay after that. I've had it happen with placing cakewalk compressors as well. 
 
Also, Antares Harmony Engines plugin is causing a crash to desktop, when placed on a bus.

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