BlackBird67
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The Early Access SONAR 2017.05 - Midi Pencil Velocity
Nobody answers to the support even being Platinum (It has been 2 years since I have no answer. Yet loyal customer since 2005), I hope that it nevertheless looks the forum.  Still no velocity fix with the pencil tool. I would like to hear my changes in real time, it does not have to be hard to do other DAW do.
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Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
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Re: The Early Access SONAR 2017.05 - Midi Pencil Velocity
2017/05/27 18:40:55
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What can you describe exactly what are you trying to do? In this update we have some updates for drawing note velocities using pen pressure with the pencil tool.
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Re: The Early Access SONAR 2017.05 - Midi Pencil Velocity
2017/05/27 19:32:29
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Hi BlackBird,
If I understand you right, what you're looking for is a repeating note audition (say, 2-3 times per second) any time you are editing a note's velocity. Is that right?
~Bob
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BlackBird67
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Re: The Early Access SONAR 2017.05 - Midi Pencil Velocity
2017/05/28 08:52:45
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Hi Bob and Noel,
let me explain. When you change the velocity of a midi note in PRV with the pencil tool (or directly in the controller panel), you see the velocity increase or decrease, but you do not hear the result note in real time. Failure to hear the modified midi note is bothering and wasting time in the workflow. Same for the Drum Panel and Step Sequencer.
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Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
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Re: The Early Access SONAR 2017.05 - Midi Pencil Velocity
2017/05/28 12:34:52
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So you are saying that when you expect the note to be re-triggered when its velocity is changed when editing just the velocity? So dragging in the controller pane could retrigger the notes with the new velocity I suppose...
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Re: The Early Access SONAR 2017.05 - Midi Pencil Velocity
2017/05/28 12:42:34
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Yikes! If you do implement that, please disable it when more than one note is selected.
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BlackBird67
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Re: The Early Access SONAR 2017.05 - Midi Pencil Velocity
2017/05/28 16:56:05
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I do not think we understand each other. When I modify with the mouse the velocity of the note midi, I would like to hear the modification live to know the result. Today, you change the velocity of the midi note you hear nothing, it is necessary to click on the note to hear it.
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Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
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Re: The Early Access SONAR 2017.05 - Midi Pencil Velocity
2017/05/28 17:40:19
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Right because clicking the note retriggers it. So you are asking for a change in the velocity to trigger the note again.
Unlike channel messages like MIDI CC's, Velocity is a per note property so you will not hear the effect unless the note is retriggered.
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Re: The Early Access SONAR 2017.05 - Midi Pencil Velocity
2017/05/28 20:50:00
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I can't imagine why you would expect to hear anything when you change a MIDI note velocity.
Just loop a section of notes - hit "play" - edit your note velocities - and you'll hear them every time they come around in the loop...
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Re: The Early Access SONAR 2017.05 - Midi Pencil Velocity
2017/05/29 01:57:12
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☼ Best Answerby BlackBird67 2017/05/30 16:18:55
check preferences-Customization-Editing-Velocity audition  you will see the smart tool change when your mouse point at the top of a note in PRV,drag it up and down and you can hear the velocity change live.
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Re: The Early Access SONAR 2017.05 - Midi Pencil Velocity
2017/05/29 15:48:03
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jbraner
I can't imagine why you would expect to hear anything when you change a MIDI note velocity.
Because some sampled instruments have more than one velocity layers. In some cases adjusting velocity can change the timbre of the note.
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Re: The Early Access SONAR 2017.05 - Midi Pencil Velocity
2017/05/29 16:35:45
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dilletant
jbraner
I can't imagine why you would expect to hear anything when you change a MIDI note velocity.
Because some sampled instruments have more than one velocity layers. In some cases adjusting velocity can change the timbre of the note.
Sure - I meant I didn't know why you'd expect to hear something as you were clicking to change the velocity. But alas, I was wrong - there is a setting so you *can* hear it 
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BlackBird67
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Re: The Early Access SONAR 2017.05 - Midi Pencil Velocity
2017/05/30 16:23:54
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yuixiaojun1022
check preferences-Customization-Editing-Velocity audition
you will see the smart tool change when your mouse point at the top of a note in PRV,drag it up and down and you can hear the velocity change live.
Big Thanks! Why this is not checked by default? But it is not really real time ;-) But it is better than nothing. If someone has the answer, since when this option is present and why is it not checked by default?
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Re: The Early Access SONAR 2017.05 - Midi Pencil Velocity
2017/05/30 16:47:45
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I think Cakewalk should improve this feature ,it's a really helpful function for me.
I just found this feature few month ago and surprisingly,few people know about this.
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jbraner
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Re: The Early Access SONAR 2017.05 - Midi Pencil Velocity
2017/05/30 17:56:49
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Well, now a few more do - thanks to you!
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Re: The Early Access SONAR 2017.05 - Midi Pencil Velocity
2017/05/30 18:17:22
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☄ Helpfulby dcumpian 2017/05/30 19:33:16
I agree - this needs some TLC. It should be more discoverable and possibly even enabled by default. And - far as I can tell - it doesn't work in the Controller pane, only in the PRV note pane. We'll definitely revisit this for an upcoming release.
~Bob
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Re: The Early Access SONAR 2017.05 - Midi Pencil Velocity
2017/05/31 00:39:44
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