Sonar does not support hi-DPI (for 4K resolution)

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2017/08/27 14:28:24 (permalink)

Sonar does not support hi-DPI (for 4K resolution)

Please support for HiDPI for Monitors with 4K resolution like Presonus Studio One or function "Zoom Display " like Ableton Live. Everything in the Sonar Platinum is small or blurry and 4K monitors are selling more and more.
Thank you very much.
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    Base 57
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    Re: Sonar does not support hi-DPI (for 4K resolution) 2017/08/27 17:51:30 (permalink)
    I have scaling set at 125 for my 43" 4k TV. Sonar looks great.
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    Re: Sonar does not support hi-DPI (for 4K resolution) 2017/08/27 20:27:26 (permalink)
    TV is not OS Windows. Everybody will not buy a TV.
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    Re: Sonar does not support hi-DPI (for 4K resolution) 2017/08/28 02:45:06 (permalink)
    Base 57
    I have scaling set at 125 for my 43" 4k TV. Sonar looks great.



    I've seen quite a few people on the forums who use 4K. IIRC the scaling had a lot to do with it...maybe others who use 4K can contribute their expertise as well.

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    Re: Sonar does not support hi-DPI (for 4K resolution) 2017/08/28 03:47:45 (permalink)
    Anderton
    I've seen quite a few people on the forums who use 4K. IIRC the scaling had a lot to do with it...maybe others who use 4K can contribute their expertise as well.

    Basically, Sonar does not look very good when scaled.  I believe it's because some of the textual elements are bitmaps instead of scalable fonts, so they don't look particularly nice when stretched.
     
    I mentioned this on the forum a number of months ago and I recall Noel responding that there was something in the works to improve this.  It's certainly not a deal breaker for me, but I would appreciate better scaling support, too.
     
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    EDIT: Here's the link to Noel's comment.
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    Re: Sonar does not support hi-DPI (for 4K resolution) 2017/08/28 13:59:43 (permalink)
    I spent quite a bit of time on playing around with scaling.  Of course, I ran into the Win7 125% limitation problem, and tried Win10 in my Mac Pro; unsupported, and a data disaster ensued. 
     
    I did some number crunching and resigned myself to the fact that there are always trade-offs when engineering any solution.  Next week, I'll be posting an article about this adventure on my website. Until then, here is the Cliffs Notes version:
     
    The main parameters to be managed are working distance (eyes to screen) pixel density (in pixels per inch) and resolution (horizontal pixel count x vertical pixel count).  The www.isthisretina.com website provides a handy calculator to get a feel for the interplay of those factors. 
     
    Because my mixer/interface is between me and the screen, my eyes are about 43-inches away.  I had been happy years ago with three 28-inch 1920x1200 screens. Their PPI is about 81. Win7 and Sonar at 100% (no scaling) were all good.  I replaced the center screen with an Apple Cinema 30-inch with a PPI of 100. My eyes struggled, and even at 125%, it was barely workable.  I got good at using the zoom feature via my mouse.  Skipping some other details, I tried and gave up on a Samsung 4K UHD 40-inch screen (PPI of 110) because it made things worse. 
     
    The new screen replacing the 40-inch Samsung is a 55-inch TCL 55S405. Guess what? 3840x2160 on 55-inch diagonal is just about 81-PPI. It looks glorious, my speaker centers are 56-inches apart, so the audio equilateral triangle meets just behind my head. That's the good news.  The bad news is that only the bottom 20-inches of the screen (27-inch vertical overall) is comfortably usable. I had to change my screen arrangement so the track view is in the lower section, bus view in a floating window in the center of the upper section, and a rectangle in the upper left for plug-ins. 
     
    I'm only a few days into it now, and have yet to mix a project, but I think it's a keeper. The little 20-inch 4:3 screen on the right side is there because the Mac Pro won't display the NewerTech RAID card BIOS or option-boot screen on a 4k TV ... and also the camera feeds from the singers and security system are viewed on it. 

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    Re: Sonar does not support hi-DPI (for 4K resolution) 2017/08/28 20:15:15 (permalink)
    Although not technically correct, 4k TVs are going to be used a lot for many software packages...... I'd buy two right now if it was in the cards with must haves....

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