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Re: Newbie Question - Cannot Understand Why a Track Deletes
2017/09/19 19:02:51
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What has really change the game now is the way we can overlap midi tracks in the PVR and editing is now soooo easy. I used to link the clips so that if I changed a note they would be also be changed on the cloned track. Now I don't link on purpose because I want small variations for each part. I can SEE all the parts in PVR and roll through the song making changes where needed and re aligning anything that got moved.
Like the way you can now look at the Kick drum and your Bass line and tighten them up.
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Re: Newbie Question - Cannot Understand Why a Track Deletes
2017/09/22 17:51:34
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Thank you scook. Spent the last few days playing around with this, and have a much better understanding of this now.
Thank you to all for responding.
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Re: Newbie Question - Cannot Understand Why a Track Deletes
2017/10/04 00:24:44
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Forgive the "reopening" of this thread, but I have a further question.
I have been working with splitting the instrument tracks out into a midi and an audio component (instead of a simple instrument track). However, when I have it set up as such, changes in the PRV do not seem to be reflected in the audio track. For example, I can just change a note value up a step, and I hear "both" notes, and not just the changed note. Is this correct?
If I have a simple instrument track, PRV changes seem to be reflected in what I "hear" on playback.
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Re: Newbie Question - Cannot Understand Why a Track Deletes
2017/10/04 00:46:04
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I'm not sure I that understand the question, but I will say all synths output sound to the audio track. The PRV only affects the MIDI data, which is the input to the synth. The synth has to interpret the MIDI note data and generate the sound to the audio track.
This is essentially the same way that an external synth works.
If you have recorded audio onto the audio track, this can not be edited via the PRV. You will need to work in MIDI only until you have completed the track, and then record or bounce the track to audio.
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Re: Newbie Question - Cannot Understand Why a Track Deletes
2017/10/04 00:53:20
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Let me see if I can explain better.
I setup the softsynth as a Midi Source, Track Folder, First Synth Audio Output. Basically setting it up as a non simple instrument track.
I record three notes - C, then D, and F. Everything plays back fine. I then change the D to an E in the PRV. When I then play back, I hear C, then D AND E (at the same time), then F.
If I set up the softsynth as a simple instrument track, and repeat the same test, I only hear C, then E, then F.
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Re: Newbie Question - Cannot Understand Why a Track Deletes
2017/10/04 01:01:01
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I just edited my last comment. does that make sense? If you have recorded audio onto the audio track, this can not be edited via the PRV. You will need to work in MIDI only until you have completed the track, and then record or bounce the track to audio.
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Re: Newbie Question - Cannot Understand Why a Track Deletes
2017/10/04 01:07:17
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Yes, I see what I was doing now. I was pressing record on the track folder, which was recording the midi and the audio at the same time. I need to record only the midi. Got it.
I assume by "bounce" - I would simply arm the audio portion of the track, then play the midi which would then record the audio portion?
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Re: Newbie Question - Cannot Understand Why a Track Deletes
2017/10/04 11:56:25
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Yes, I see what I was doing now. I was pressing record on the track folder, which was recording the midi and the audio at the same time. I need to record only the midi. Got it.
I assume by "bounce" - I would simply arm the audio portion of the track, then play the midi which would then record the audio portion?
No you can bounce to audio without having to record enable anything. Probably the best way is to simply freeze the synth
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Re: Newbie Question - Cannot Understand Why a Track Deletes
2017/10/04 12:59:35
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Bristol_Jonesey
husker
Yes, I see what I was doing now. I was pressing record on the track folder, which was recording the midi and the audio at the same time. I need to record only the midi. Got it.
I assume by "bounce" - I would simply arm the audio portion of the track, then play the midi which would then record the audio portion?
No you can bounce to audio without having to record enable anything.
Probably the best way is to simply freeze the synth
+1 Another vote for freezing synths.
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Re: Newbie Question - Cannot Understand Why a Track Deletes
2017/10/04 16:20:37
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☄ Helpfulby chuckebaby 2017/10/04 20:24:22
husker
I assume by "bounce" - I would simply arm the audio portion of the track, then play the midi which would then record the audio portion?
As you may be discovering, there is often more than one way to do something in Sonar.  Bouncing, freezing, and direct recording are all available for soft synths now. I stated bouncing to generally reflect the need to convert your soft synth tracks to audio. To your question about arming the audio track, and then playing the MIDI to record, that is a new feature introduced in Platinum called "Soft synth audio recording". It addressed the question many of us had, who were used to recording with external synths, which was "why can't we just record a soft synth directly to an audio track, like with an external synth?" Well now we can! So you apparently stumbled onto that one! The docs for converting soft synth tracks to audio (bounce to tracks): https://www.cakewalk.com/Documentation?product=SONAR%20X2&language=3&help=SoftSynths.12.html The docs for freezing tracks and synths: https://www.cakewalk.com/...Mixing.23.html#1117748 The docs for soft synth audio recording: https://www.cakewalk.com/Documentation?product=SONAR%20X2&language=3&help=Mixing.23.html#1117748
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Re: Newbie Question - Cannot Understand Why a Track Deletes
2017/10/04 17:56:15
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Thank you for the direct links Abacab.
As I've said in numerous threads, I am a total beginner with no background in DAWs or recording. I'm learning small bits at a time, using the Groove 3 videos and the documentation. I think I just get ahead of myself sometimes. I'm ever grateful for those who take the time to answer my questions.
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Re: Newbie Question - Cannot Understand Why a Track Deletes
2017/10/04 20:25:19
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