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2017/09/22 19:32:05 (permalink)

[SOLVED] Generic Low Latency ASIO driver...

In the past couple of days, I installed Wavelab 9 and Reason 9.5. 
 
Now, when I start Sonar, I get a small window popping up every second saying:
 
Generic Low Latency ASIO Driver
Record 13 + 14 (LynxTwo-C)
Checking 2 Channels 96000 SPS 16 BPS
 
I uninstalled the driver, and followed the configuration resetting instructions. I never had this driver activated. Still, I get the message. I tried re-installing Sonar. Even with the driver uninstalled, it still shows as an option in the Sonar driver selection window.
 
Anyone have a clue? S1, Reaper, and Cubase still running normal. Sonar is unusable.

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    Re: Generic Low Latency ASIO driver... 2017/09/22 19:50:23 (permalink)
    I think I've read this before and it's a Stienberg issue so that will help you narrow it down. Seems installing the newer versions of any Stienberg software trashes things. This is not the case with older versions as I have both Cubase 5 LE and Wave Lab 7 Elements.
    Google "stienberg generic ASIO driver"  
     
    https://www.steinberg.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=226&t=103828
     
     
     

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    Re: Generic Low Latency ASIO driver... 2017/09/22 20:33:20 (permalink)
    Thanks. I googled it, and read up, but no real solution. I followed everything I could find including uninstalling the driver and the registry edits, but still having the problem in Sonar.
     
    This is how it is. I took the time to wipe every vestige of Sonar off my machine, reinstalled, and everything was great for a couple of weeks. Then this...
     
    I've spent more time trouble-shooting Sonar than I have using it over the past month. At this point, I'm ready to call it a day. Maybe when I decide to upgrade to Windows 10, it'll work like it should. I'm not a newb. I've been using Sonar products since 1995. Like I stated, none of my other programs are showing any kind of error. 

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    Re: Generic Low Latency ASIO driver... 2017/09/22 20:40:08 (permalink)
    try renaming aud.ini in the SONAR user directory
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    Re: Generic Low Latency ASIO driver... 2017/09/23 02:14:45 (permalink)
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    try renaming aud.ini in the SONAR user directory




    I did. No difference. Going to try the full re-install route and see how that pans out.
     

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    Re: Generic Low Latency ASIO driver... 2017/09/23 02:26:41 (permalink)
    By full reinstall I assume you mean this or this if you have X3
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    Re: Generic Low Latency ASIO driver... 2017/09/23 02:34:37 (permalink)
    The 2015 Knowledge Base article. Just tried it, and it didn't work. I've had the generic ASIO driver installed for over two years, and zero problems. No idea why it cropped up now. Time to start uninstalling the other items to see what happens.
     
    Thank you for your help.

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    Re: Generic Low Latency ASIO driver... 2017/09/23 02:42:00 (permalink)
    IDK either but I have seen other threads where that driver was a problem. The only solution was removal of the driver. It should not be necessary if you interface has a factory supplied ASIO driver.
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    Re: Generic Low Latency ASIO driver... 2017/09/23 02:57:16 (permalink)
    Correct.
     
    I figured out how to solve it, but not the why of how it happened to begin with. I deleted the ASIO folder in the Cubase install. I did this once before, but I guess it didn't take. After rebooting to assure that it was gone, I started Sonar and the constantly loading window as gone. I will mark this thread solved.
     
    Thanks to everyone for your advice.

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    Re: Generic Low Latency ASIO driver... 2017/09/25 15:52:18 (permalink)
    Updating for those who may have this problem in the future.
     
    I was able to use Sonar again, but, Rewire wouldn't load in any host. I reinstalled Reason, and everything is now operating properly. I don't know exactly why, but it seems that Rewire has some kind of interaction with the Generic ASIO Driver installed by Cubase. I know that Cubase and Props initially developed Rewire together, so maybe that's a clue.
     
    My main concern is that drivers that I don't have enabled in the program, or even showing up in the program dialog (AMD High Definition Audio Device) are affecting the way Sonar runs. There has to be a fix for this. Take us back to when we had to reboot the program to switch drivers if that's what it takes for further stability. Unused/unseen drivers shouldn't be able to hijack the host program.

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    Re: Generic Low Latency ASIO driver... 2017/09/25 16:03:33 (permalink)
    I think it's also something to do with how well your ASIO drivers for your interface are written too. 
    I know many people have issues with on board audio taking over where others do not. 
    And the same would go with this issue. Probably lots of people have that driver and without issue as Cubase and Wavelab are popular. 
    A good audio driver will manage this and not allow take over. 

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    Re: Generic Low Latency ASIO driver... 2017/09/25 16:33:49 (permalink)
    Lynx have some of the best drivers in the business. None of my other hosts where affected, only Sonar. All on board audio is always turned off. The Generic ASIO Driver showed up as an option in Sonar, but was never activated. Yet, it seems that the program kept the driver in a kind of "ready state" to where it could be accessed. With drivers being installed by different devices and programs, and Microsoft being hell-bent on taking control away from the user, Sonar would be more future-proof if we were given some kind of driver blacklist. I assumed that's what was happening when drivers were not activated, but it wasn't. A blacklist would keep a driver from affecting Sonar even if it became unknowingly re-enabled. Then the program could concentrate fully on the task at hand.
     
    I'm not the only person that's been burned by this :
     
    "I think what I learned is this: Drivers ARE a major source of issues."
     
    http://forum.cakewalk.com/Troubleshooting-Tip-that-Saved-My-Windows-Sanity-m3654214.aspx
     
    I use different programs for different purposes. Sonar has several advantages over other hosts. I just wish it wasn't such a fragile egg sometimes, and I think steps could be taken to shore up stability.

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    Re: Generic Low Latency ASIO driver... 2017/09/25 16:51:21 (permalink)
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    "I think what I learned is this: Drivers ARE a major source of issues."
     
    http://forum.cakewalk.com/Troubleshooting-Tip-that-Saved-My-Windows-Sanity-m3654214.aspx
     
    I use different programs for different purposes. Sonar has several advantages over other hosts. I just wish it wasn't such a fragile egg sometimes, and I think steps could be taken to shore up stability.



    The problem is you can't have access to everything AND have stability. For example I think (not sure) SONAR is still the only DAW that can access the new low-latency WASAPI drivers. This is fantastic is you're using a laptop or doing something like trying to record video of SONAR doing something while you're hearing SONAR, but it adds one more layer to how SONAR interacts with the OS.
     
    Maybe a solution would be when Windows 10 installs a Sound, Video, or Game Controller driver during an update, upon rebooting a dialog box could come up asking if you want it enabled Y/N.

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    Re: Generic Low Latency ASIO driver... 2017/09/25 16:55:06 (permalink)
    Exactly. If a driver was marked "excluded", then it would have zero impact on how Sonar runs no matter the current state of that driver.

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