how do I "tune" my makeshift monitors for my room?

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February 12, 05 7:47 PM (permalink)

how do I "tune" my makeshift monitors for my room?

Yeah... i'm cheap... Can't afford nearfield studio monitors right now. In Sonar 3 Mixing & Mastering, Craig Anderton mentions that you can try using decent bookshelf speakers and a subwoofer to compensate for the bookshelf speakers' lack of bass. So I've been using a cheap pair of Jensen C1 speakers and a NAD Series 20 amp... I just found an old labtec subwoofer (used usually with computer speakers that have a "sub-out" jack) and I plugged the subwoofer into a free channel of my headphone amp. So my speakers are in one channel, and the sub is in another. I turned the bass knob totally off for the speakers, so the only bass sound is coming from the subwoofer, and the highs are coming from the bookshelf speakers. So now that I have my makeshift speaker set up, is there a way I can properly tune them for my room? i.e. getting the subwoofer bass settings on the right levels might be interesting... I can adjust the volume and bass level on the subwoofer itself, AND I can adjust the bass on the sub's channel in the headphone amp. AND I need to figure out what's the optimum volume level for the subwoofer compared to the speakers. Yeah... Am I making sense?

Dave

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    RRabbi
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    RE: how do I "tune" my makeshift monitors for my room? February 12, 05 8:33 PM (permalink)
    I did a google search, found this: http://www.johnvestman.com/studio_monitor_madness.htm

    I think what I'm wondering tho, is there something I should be doing where I set up a mic in the room and play through different sounds, while watching on a PAZ analyzer THEN adjust the bass on my gear to sound the way it should...

    I played with the bass settings a bit, and even jumped back and forth between the "old" bass sound I was getting from the speakers, to cutting that bass off and using the "new" bass from the sub and it does sound way better. The fletcher munson effect isn't as prominent on some of the bass notes that the bassist hit (he hit some higher notes that seemed to come in lounder than the lower notes on my speakers, but in my headphones it sounds fine...) i'll get this figured out someday... heh

    Dave

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    RE: how do I "tune" my makeshift monitors for my room? February 12, 05 8:55 PM (permalink)
    RRabbi, I would mostly use your ears on this. Try a few mixes, and see how the mixes sound on other systems that you know. This is the best way to tune a system that I know, though it takes some time to do. If the mix sounds perfect on your system, but when you listen on other systems it sounds too bass-heavy or to bass-wimpy, you know that your studio setup is "lying" to you. The key is to listen on as many different systems as possible.

    The acoustics of the room will play a huge role in tuning your monitoring system. The more bass trapping you have in the room the better (up to a point).
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    RE: how do I "tune" my makeshift monitors for my room? February 13, 05 2:56 AM (permalink)
    Since your mixing unmatched components in an untreated room, you may want to simply run the Jensens full range, then bring the sub up just enough to be noticeable and let it go at that. You can get into measurements if you like, but the bottom line is that it is way more important that you learn what 'normal' (CD's) sound like on your speakers in your room. Whether you have great monitors or not, that becomes the tone balance standard you have to work with.
    Wayne
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    RE: how do I "tune" my makeshift monitors for my room? February 15, 05 4:46 PM (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: RRabbi

    I did a google search, found this: http://www.johnvestman.com/studio_monitor_madness.htm

    I think what I'm wondering tho, is there something I should be doing where I set up a mic in the room and play through different sounds, while watching on a PAZ analyzer THEN adjust the bass on my gear to sound the way it should...

    I played with the bass settings a bit, and even jumped back and forth between the "old" bass sound I was getting from the speakers, to cutting that bass off and using the "new" bass from the sub and it does sound way better. The fletcher munson effect isn't as prominent on some of the bass notes that the bassist hit (he hit some higher notes that seemed to come in lounder than the lower notes on my speakers, but in my headphones it sounds fine...) i'll get this figured out someday... heh

    Dave


    Also you need a decent small condesner mic to measure the freq response from your
    SPEAKERS RIG.... ( SOME guys use it for acoustic guitars and overheads . on the budget of course.....)

    I sugest behringer ECM8000 CHeap at 49.99
    ther is higher mics but that do the trick for your setup

    Greets
    ROlo.
    post edited by rolo95 - February 15, 05 4:55 PM

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