Helpful ReplyCakewalk By Bandlab - Audio Won't Stretch when Delaying or Adjusting Length

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2018/05/07 18:06:52 (permalink)

Cakewalk By Bandlab - Audio Won't Stretch when Delaying or Adjusting Length

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Audio clip will not extend with any reverb, delay or length adjustments....
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Re: Cakewalk By Bandlab - Audio Won't Stretch when Delaying or Adjusting Length 2018/05/07 20:25:24 (permalink)
I'm not sure what you are trying to do - could you please clarify? Are you maybe trying to slip-stretch a clip?
 
Slip stretching
https://www.cakewalk.com/Documentation?product=SONAR&language=3&help=AudioSnap.19.html
 
Or maybe you have issues with freezing cutting of your effects tails, in which case I might quote Bitflipper's explanation from the post below: "Just drag your last MIDI clip (slip edit) out to the desired length. That will determine where the freeze bounce stops."
 
Freeze tail duration
http://forum.cakewalk.com/Freeze-tail-duration-m3307407.aspx
 
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Re: Cakewalk By Bandlab - Audio Won't Stretch when Delaying or Adjusting Length 2018/05/08 18:04:10 (permalink)
This is not a MIDI clip.
 
And I'm more than sure I made it clear what I am attempting to do.
 
Length.  Reverb.  Delay.  If you need me to explain it to you, when you extend the length of a clip... the clip is supposed to lengthen!!!!!
 
When you Use Reverb, the clip is supposed to... lengthen!!!  As long as the reverb would extend!!!
 
The clip DOES NOT EXTEND.  It cuts off at the length of the clip and does not extend.  There is no possible way for me clear it up any more than that!
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Re: Cakewalk By Bandlab - Audio Won't Stretch when Delaying or Adjusting Length 2018/05/08 18:05:09 (permalink)
Are we SERIOUSLY stuck with only communicating with forum members, with Cakewalk or Bandlab not bothering to read any of our concerns???
 
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Re: Cakewalk By Bandlab - Audio Won't Stretch when Delaying or Adjusting Length 2018/05/08 18:16:04 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Zargg 2018/05/08 18:36:02
Why so hostile to someone trying to help you? Sometimes the best help for products come from the people using it in a similar way as you. This IS a user forum. In fact it’s a user forum for a product technically dead, so please save the hostility (if you must) for the actual company. Responding like this is not likely to resolve your problem any faster
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Re: Cakewalk By Bandlab - Audio Won't Stretch when Delaying or Adjusting Length 2018/05/08 18:16:30 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Zargg 2018/05/08 18:34:53
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Are we SERIOUSLY stuck with only communicating with forum members, with Cakewalk or Bandlab not bothering to read any of our concerns???
 


this is a user forum, contact support directly if you want to hear from them specifically

just a sec

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Re: Cakewalk By Bandlab - Audio Won't Stretch when Delaying or Adjusting Length 2018/05/08 18:17:55 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby stevesweat 2018/06/20 12:56:42
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When you Use Reverb, the clip is supposed to... lengthen!!!  As long as the reverb would extend!!!

No it's not. The clip will be as long as you recorded it to be i.e the length of the recorded program material. If you add a reverb or delay plugin on that track you will hear the reverb or delay tail, but the clip length will stay the same. You can extend the length of a clip by dragging the edge with the mouse.

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Re: Cakewalk By Bandlab - Audio Won't Stretch when Delaying or Adjusting Length 2018/05/08 19:17:16 (permalink)
I tried extending the clip before applying Reverb, but it still cut off at the point the audio had ended previously, and I was baffled.
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Re: Cakewalk By Bandlab - Audio Won't Stretch when Delaying or Adjusting Length 2018/05/08 19:20:49 (permalink)
we are not bandlab, but some of these guys here could easily work for them.  i have gotten more useful help here than from any customer support rep.  might take some patience , but someone here can likely figure it out
 
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Re: Cakewalk By Bandlab - Audio Won't Stretch when Delaying or Adjusting Length 2018/05/08 19:24:29 (permalink)
also, although your description is very self explanatory to you because you know all the subtle details, there are still unknowns to us.  Is this a clip you bounced? was reverb appliued directly to clip? was revereb in fx bin or or pro channel? are your affects pre-or post fader? is your reverb on a send? There are many possibilities we cannot assume.
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Re: Cakewalk By Bandlab - Audio Won't Stretch when Delaying or Adjusting Length 2018/05/08 19:35:52 (permalink)
Yes, the Reverb was applied directly to the clip.
No bouncing; is that necessary?
No FX involved.
No faders involved.
I don't know what "on a send" means.
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Re: Cakewalk By Bandlab - Audio Won't Stretch when Delaying or Adjusting Length 2018/05/08 19:45:55 (permalink)
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Yes, the Reverb was applied directly to the clip.
No bouncing; is that necessary?
No FX involved.
No faders involved.
I don't know what "on a send" means.


This is actually very helpful to know. My apologies for using language based on assumptions. Let me rephrase.
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Re: Cakewalk By Bandlab - Audio Won't Stretch when Delaying or Adjusting Length 2018/05/08 19:52:22 (permalink)
There are multiple ways to apply effects. You can apply directly to clip, apply to track , or create a bus with the effect that tracks can have a portion of signal sent to. The advantage of the latter method is that it is more CPU efficient to send multiple track and to one reverb than to have multiple instances. It also helps multiple tracks have a consistency as if recorded in same space. This might be a simpler explanation for you:
https://youtu.be/RPZl39yIcjM
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Re: Cakewalk By Bandlab - Audio Won't Stretch when Delaying or Adjusting Length 2018/05/08 19:55:39 (permalink)
I think your problem goes away if you use send method for using time based effects or even applying via fix bin or pro channel. Stretching clip using one of those methods will not cutoff unless either gates or some setting within individual plugin causes. Hope that made sense and helps
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Re: Cakewalk By Bandlab - Audio Won't Stretch when Delaying or Adjusting Length 2018/05/08 21:10:51 (permalink)
I wouldn't recommend adding reverb or delay effects direct to clips. Instead, add them to the tracks effects bin or as dubdisciple said above, add a bus, add the effect to the FX bin on that bus and then add a send from the source channel to that bus. Use the send knob to adjust the amount of signal you send. This is also great for adding that effect to multiple tracks as using the same reverb often works best - just add a send on each track you want the effect on.

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Re: Cakewalk By Bandlab - Audio Won't Stretch when Delaying or Adjusting Length 2018/06/19 23:13:06 (permalink)
I'd never used the FX tab in the Track Inspector; this did what I was looking for.  Thanks, everybody.
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