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Re: Cakewalk by Bandlab is free!!!! (rent to buy Studio One)
2018/11/18 21:25:06
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☄ Helpfulby abacab 2018/11/18 21:26:29
Rumor has it S1 Pro upgrade will be $75 for Pro users this week. We'll see how that goes.
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Re: Cakewalk by Bandlab is free!!!! (rent to buy Studio One)
2018/11/18 22:01:48
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My point was that when you have been using Cakewalk since DOS and you try a new DAW it does not take months to assess a new DAW. They all pretty much accomplish the same thing but, some do it in a roundabout way.
I gave quite specific examples of the limitations I encountered.
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Re: Cakewalk by Bandlab is free!!!! (rent to buy Studio One)
2018/11/19 10:46:57
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abacab
Just to be clear, Cubase 10 looks to be the new DAW to end all DAWs! 
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Re: Cakewalk by Bandlab is free!!!! (rent to buy Studio One)
2018/11/19 16:04:37
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kitekrazy1
Rumor has it S1 Pro upgrade will be $75 for Pro users this week. We'll see how that goes.
$62.58 at JRR from the Deals forum, so a little better than projected. $169.57 to new users.
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Re: Cakewalk by Bandlab is free!!!! (rent to buy Studio One)
2018/11/19 16:15:17
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Re: Cakewalk by Bandlab is free!!!! (rent to buy Studio One)
2018/11/19 16:18:34
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mettelus
kitekrazy1
Rumor has it S1 Pro upgrade will be $75 for Pro users this week. We'll see how that goes.
$62.58 at JRR from the Deals forum, so a little better than projected.
$169.57 to new users.
Yep, I bought it for $62.
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Re: Cakewalk by Bandlab is free!!!! (rent to buy Studio One)
2018/11/20 00:43:09
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Question: Why would I want to "buy" Studio One when I can get Cakewalk by Bandlab for free?
Everyone's experience is different. I switched to Studio One 3 Pro last year when they offered the special cross-grade for Sonar users. I could not be happier with Studio One. It has never, ever crashed once on me. I have come to trust Studio One as a reliable tool that let's me focus on creativity rather than worrying if it will crash every time I insert an aux channel or plug-in. Don't get me wrong, I'm a long-time Cakewalk/Sonar user and check in here every once in a while to see if they've improved the software. That said, when I read the posts here I see lots of posts about "crashing" and "work arounds." I know the reality from experience. I'll happily switch back to Cakewalk when/if it becomes a stable and reliable production tool. Until then, I'll happily pay the $75 to upgrade from Studio One 3 Pro to Studio One 4 Pro. But that's just my experience.
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Re: Cakewalk by Bandlab is free!!!! (rent to buy Studio One)
2018/11/20 00:58:36
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mritenburg That said, when I read the posts here I see lots of posts about "crashing" and "work arounds." I know the reality from experience..
That's in the nature of a Software forum, people have questions regarding Problems. Nothing else in the Presonus Forum for Studio One. Lot of Problems there  But you could have read many posts here responding to increased stability of Cakewalk. Jm2c Cheers 
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Re: Cakewalk by Bandlab is free!!!! (rent to buy Studio One)
2018/11/20 10:37:37
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All the DAWs have their own strengths and weaknesses. When Sonar went bye-bye, I purchased both Cubase 9.5 and Studio One 3.5. They're both incredible DAWs.
Studio One's project view is a dream for mastering, and the song mode is really great for tracking sessions (which is why it's so popular in studios now). But Studio One lacks true MIDI support and the simplistic interface can make complex tasks challenging.
Cubase, on the other hand, is a master at MIDI. It has a fantastic score editor built right in, which is wonderful for orchestral pieces. Cubase has deep levels of complexity and endless tweakability. There's a reason it's so popular with composers.
But when I learned Cakewalk was back via Bandlab, I didn't hesitate to go back. Why? Because it just works the best for me. After so many years of experience, it's the DAW I'm most familiar with and most comfortable using. This particular build is the most stable I've ever used. Plus it works with all my hardware seamlessly. I still have a V-Studio 700 Console, and while it "sort of" works with Cubase and Studio One, it works wonderfully in Cakewalk. Cakewalk also natively supports touch-screens, something that is not true of either Cubase or Studio One. I have a Slate Raven which rocks, but with Cakewalk I don't need the Raven software I need with Cubase. Don't get me wrong, it's great software...but it simply isn't needed with Cakewalk. I set up the console view on my Raven, with the project view and others on my other monitors. It works beautifully.
I'm glad I have the other DAWs, and will no doubt use them for various projects. Studio One is especially useful for mastering. But my go-to DAW remains Cakewalk. Why would I choose anything else?
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Re: Cakewalk by Bandlab is free!!!! (rent to buy Studio One)
2018/11/20 18:20:47
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☄ Helpfulby HeatherHaze 2018/11/21 01:31:08
I've been using Studio One since version 1.0 because of the Project Page for mastering. It replaced CD Architect as a better way to assemble albums.
Lately I've found another use for the Project Page. I export the finished files from a CbB project as individual tracks, and create a song with them in Studio One. Then I can "compile" those tracks over to the Project Page. If in the process of assembling an album I find that, for example, the vocal needs to be louder on one track and the bass needs EQ on another, I make those tweaks in the Song Page on the exported tracks, and recompile to the Project Page. It's easier than closing Studio One, opening Cakewalk, making the change, exporting the mix, closing Cakewalk, opening Studio One, and bringing the altered mix back into the Project Page every time I want to make a tweak.
I also do something similar with Vegas when I export stems from a soundtrack into audio tracks. That makes it so easy to do any needed modifications to go along better with the video...same basic principle.
These days I really can't imagine using a single DAW to do everything, it's just not possible for the kind of work I want to do. And of course, there's always rewiring Reason or Live into CbB to expand CbB's "groove" capabilities and selection of instruments.
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