are device chains working for you?

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November 17, 05 11:35 PM (permalink)

are device chains working for you?

Okay,

So I insert a new synth track and choose a patch.
If I then right-click on the track I save it as a device chain. I save the chain in the default folder (c:\program files\ etc.. \device chains\).
If I then insert another track and then try to load my device chain, it doesn't show up.
The size of my device chain is around 6kb in file size. The stock device chains that come with P5 are around 24kb.

Has anyone tried to save tracks as device chains, and were you successful with it?

thanks
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    xylyx
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    RE: are device chains working for you? November 18, 05 2:14 AM (permalink)
    Yes, I have some device chains saved and they work perfectly. Not sure what the file size of the saved chains are, but I would think that would depends on how many devices are in the chain...
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    Andy C
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    RE: are device chains working for you? November 18, 05 4:12 AM (permalink)
    If I then right-click on the track I save it as a device chain. I save the chain in the default folder (c:\program files\ etc.. \device chains\).
    If I then insert another track and then try to load my device chain, it doesn't show up.


    Try inserting any old synth and then use replace synth/from device chain.

    Andy
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    RE: are device chains working for you? November 18, 05 11:26 AM (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: sluggo
    If I then insert another track and then try to load my device chain, it doesn't show up.

    Have you closed and restarted P5 to see if it shows up then? - (I'm hoping not... because that didn't used to be the case...)

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    vOidvOice
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    RE: are device chains working for you? November 18, 05 11:48 AM (permalink)
    Files sizes of chains I have made are from 5 to 305 kb
    P5's that I checked are 5 to 50 averaging about 13
    Dumb question. How are you loading them?.
    Chains are not tracks they are devices inserted into tracks.
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    xylyx
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    RE: are device chains working for you? November 18, 05 11:58 AM (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: vOidvOice

    Chains are not tracks they are devices inserted into tracks.


    If you right-click in a blank part of the arrangement pane, you can then choose 'Insert from device chain' and it will create the track and devices included in that chain...
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    RE: are device chains working for you? November 18, 05 4:18 PM (permalink)
    Or, click the add new instrument track button. It will give you the option to add a new device chain or new instrument. Your saved device chains should be available there. I usually save them under the instrument used to make them so I don't get confused.


    Fred Schmierer

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    vOidvOice
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    RE: are device chains working for you? November 18, 05 6:19 PM (permalink)
    Semantics and nomenclature, sometimes they hide what we are really looking at and for.

    He/she may be thinking that if you save a device chain it also the saves the pattern in the track so you can reload the whole thing, pattern and devices at a later time.

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    RE: are device chains working for you? November 19, 05 11:30 AM (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: xylyx
    If you right-click in a blank part of the arrangement pane, you can then choose 'Insert from device chain' and it will create the track and devices included in that chain...


    Yes, this is what I've now found. If I right click in the track pane I can choose the device chain. If I try to use the device browser (? I'm not sure that is what it is officially called), my device chains don't show up. Thanks for the help everyone.

    s.
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    xylyx
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    RE: are device chains working for you? November 19, 05 1:42 PM (permalink)
    If you mean the browser at the bottom of the P5 window, then that is the pattern browser where you find (and preview) midi patterns and wave files...your device chains won't show up there.
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    b rock
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    RE: are device chains working for you? November 19, 05 2:05 PM (permalink)
    If I try to use the device browser ... my device chains don't show up.
    You're clicking on the Presets ... text under Device Chain in the Track Inspector, right Mr.Sluggo? Then you get that striped flyout, but no custom chains; even under All? Mine don't show up, either. "All" seems to indicate "all" of just what Cakewalk gave you. The nerve ...

    Here's what you do: Create a new sub-folder in the path C:\Cakewalk\Project5 Version 2\Device Chains. (The path may vary slightly; I don't put anything in C:\Program Files, if I have a choice.) I did this myself with the old Track Patches from 1.5. You can create sub-folders under that, too, so the result might look like C:\Cakewalk\Project5 Version 2\Device Chains\Custom Device Chains\S&M. Then the tree will branch out correctly, and "All" will include anything under the Custom Device Chain folder that's not in it's own sub-folder.

    Myself, I find the right-click Replace method quicker. I hope this helps. File management is not my strong point here.

    Edit: You know what it is, Slug? You need to highlight "All" in the first category (far left), and "All" in the second category (the middle slot). Then you'll get *all* of your custom device chains to show up at the far right (third column).
    I'd still create your own sub-folder for easier navigation. If it gets anything like my collection, you'll go blind trying to find one. HTH
    post edited by b rock - November 19, 05 4:17 PM
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    sluggo
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    RE: are device chains working for you? November 22, 05 3:16 PM (permalink)
    I'll have to try clicking the "all" twice. But I even moved my presests into existing folders and they still didn't show up, unless i did the right-click thing.

    s
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