DannyARG85
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I hear sound, but No Waveform!?
Hi, I already did a search on "NO Wave Form" but it wasn't the same problem I have. I'm importing a 2.99 GIG audio Recording of A Radio Show. Its a wav file. Its exports the media (Takes ass long). Then afterwards All i see is a Thick Blue rectangle were the Waves should be. I can play the audio just fine, the levels move. This has never happend before when I import thing. My specs are Sonar 4, 2.9 Ghz, 512 RAM. Mobile Pre. Thanks.
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RE: I hear sound, but No Waveform!?
November 26, 05 7:40 PM
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try deleting the contents of your picture cache folder. I find that your scenario can sometimes occur if I've imported a clip into sonar with the same exact name as one I've used elsewhere, so the picture cache gets confused if you see what i mean.
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RE: I hear sound, but No Waveform!?
November 26, 05 7:46 PM
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Hi Danny:
Aside of the good sugestion from ooblecaboodle, you can to try to increase the size of Picture Cache, editing that entry in the Aud.ini file. I set the mine at 2.000 Mb (2Gb).
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DannyARG85
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RE: I hear sound, but No Waveform!?
November 26, 05 8:58 PM
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Where is the picture cache?
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RE: I hear sound, but No Waveform!?
November 27, 05 10:49 AM
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Hi Danny: The Picture Data is where you told to Sonar for it stay, in the menu Options/Global/Audio Data/Picture Folder. The Picture Cache size is altered in the Aud.ini file, which is in the folder where Sonar was installed (normally at C:/Program files/Cakewalk/Sonar 5 Producer Edition). With Sonar closed, double click the Aud.ini file for open it with a text editor and change the value of the entry named "PicCacheMB=" (without the cotes) to a value in the 1000 - 2000 range (mine is at 2000). Press save to fix the changes. Greetings.
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RE: I hear sound, but No Waveform!?
November 27, 05 1:03 PM
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ORIGINAL: DannyARG85
Hi, I already did a search on "NO Wave Form" but it wasn't the same problem I have. I'm importing a 2.99 GIG audio Recording of A Radio Show. Do a search for 2G file size limit.
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RE: I hear sound, but No Waveform!?
November 27, 05 2:22 PM
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ORIGINAL: DannyARG85
Hi, I already did a search on "NO Wave Form" but it wasn't the same problem I have. I'm importing a 2.99 GIG audio Recording of A Radio Show.
Do a search for 2G file size limit.
Hi: I believe the 2Gb size limit isn´t the problem here, because the file is loading and playing, only not being showed the graphical part. So, I believe the behaviour is typical of insufficient disk cache for the waves design, because this I did suggest for Danny to increase the Picture Cache dir size. And Danny: when you go to resize the setting in the Aud.ini file, make it to 3000 or more. Sorry, I didn´t had attention for the real size of the file. And if you work constantly with files of this size, make the setting permanent, not only for a test. Good luck. Greetings.
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RE: I hear sound, but No Waveform!?
November 27, 05 5:04 PM
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Hi Danny:
The Picture Data is where you told to Sonar for it stay, in the menu Options/Global/Audio Data/Picture Folder.
The Picture Cache size is altered in the Aud.ini file, which is in the folder where Sonar was installed (normally at C:/Program files/Cakewalk/Sonar 5 Producer Edition). With Sonar closed, double click the Aud.ini file for open it with a text editor and change the value of the entry named "PicCacheMB=" (without the cotes) to a value in the 1000 - 2000 range (mine is at 2000). Press save to fix the changes.
Greetings.
Well I did what you said, and it still does the same thing, except now if I zome in REALLY REALLY CLOSE, i can make out A Waveform, but not enough to edit. HOw do i Fix this? And did I screw things up in the program??? Thanks. Danny.
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RE: I hear sound, but No Waveform!?
November 27, 05 6:22 PM
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ORIGINAL: DannyARG85
Well I did what you said, and it still does the same thing, except now if I zome in REALLY REALLY CLOSE, i can make out A Waveform, but not enough to edit. Is the level you see in the meters at low values? If yes, probably the wave file you did import have a very low volume. How you get the file: already recorded or you recorded it in your machine?
HOw do i Fix this?
You can to apply a compressor with hight output settings for take the wave volume up, so the wave will show the graphic with more height. If this isn´t the scenario, please don´t take in count this advice.
And did I screw things up in the program??? I haven´t any motif for to believe in this. Thanks.
Danny.
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RE: I hear sound, but No Waveform!?
November 27, 05 6:33 PM
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Hi Danny- Well I did what you said, and it still does the same thing, except now if I zome in REALLY REALLY CLOSE, i can make out A Waveform, but not enough to edit. Have you tried adjusting the dB zoom factor to the left of the Clips pane? You can left-click and drag it up & down, or right-click for a popup menu. -Susan
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RE: I hear sound, but No Waveform!?
November 27, 05 7:53 PM
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Well I did what you said, and it still does the same thing, except now if I zome in REALLY REALLY CLOSE, i can make out A Waveform, but not enough to edit.
Is the level you see in the meters at low values? If yes, probably the wave file you did import have a very low volume. How you get the file: already recorded or you recorded it in your machine?
HOw do i Fix this?
You can to apply a compressor with hight output settings for take the wave volume up, so the wave will show the graphic with more height. If this isn´t the scenario, please don´t take in count this advice.
And did I screw things up in the program???
I haven´t any motif for to believe in this.
Thanks.
Danny.
You´re welcome. Post new questions if you have more doubts/problems.
Greetings.
First off let me say, Thanks alot for your help man! Sersiously one of the nicest people on this forum. YOu wouldn't believe some of the responses I get from other posters. But anyway, The levels are fine, The audio file is a recording of a radio program, i'm a DJ and I wanted to record my shows. So its about 4 hours. I ran it out of my stereo through a mixer and into my interface. The gain structure was superb, nothing wrong there. And i got nervous when fiddling around with Those aud.ini Files.
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RE: I hear sound, but No Waveform!?
November 27, 05 7:54 PM
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Hi Danny-
Well I did what you said, and it still does the same thing, except now if I zome in REALLY REALLY CLOSE, i can make out A Waveform, but not enough to edit.
Have you tried adjusting the dB zoom factor to the left of the Clips pane? You can left-click and drag it up & down, or right-click for a popup menu.
-Susan
Hey thanks for your help! Unfortunately I did do this, and it did not help.
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RE: I hear sound, but No Waveform!?
November 28, 05 2:20 AM
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This has happened to me before as well. If you highlight the "blank" audio file and go to
Edit - Bounce - To clip
It restores the wave file graphic.
Bart
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RE: I hear sound, but No Waveform!?
November 28, 05 5:35 AM
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Is this not because the waveform IS there, but because the clip is sooo long when viewed in one screen the waveform just appears as a solid block... you said that if you zoom in then the waveform appears, so that would stack up with this.
The thing is zoom in so that you get the same amount of time across the screen as you would have for a normal peice (eg 30 secs - 1 min or so) and see if the waveform exists there.
Personally I think It's just so visually compressed horizontally that it is just impossible for Sonar to show the waveform. (Not enough pixels)
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RE: I hear sound, but No Waveform!?
November 28, 05 6:14 AM
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Danny: First, thank you for your kind words, you´re a gentelman. I can even to suggest (if you already didn´t made this) you zoom in VERTICALLY your project until the maximum possible zoom. In the first post you did make mention to a "All i see is a Thick Blue rectangle were the Waves should be", and thinking better it can to be a zoomed out long wave. Try the zoom in to the maximum and also the zoom out a bit more. If the blue rectangle is really the waveform in a condensed view, you´ll have a normal view of the waveform. If you have Sound Forge or another audio editor, you also can to open the file in the editor and see as it is showed (and edit it, if this is your goal). Good luck in your intent. Greetings.
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RE: I hear sound, but No Waveform!?
November 28, 05 6:54 AM
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....or you could download Audacity and see what it looks like in there.....
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RE: I hear sound, but No Waveform!?
November 28, 05 8:13 AM
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I believe the 2Gb size limit isn´t the problem here, because the file is loading and playing, only not being showed the graphical part. I still think this is youre problem - Cakewalk software only supports wav files up to 2GB in size. Bad things happen with larger files.
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RE: I hear sound, but No Waveform!?
November 28, 05 8:36 AM
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ORIGINAL: sinc
I believe the 2Gb size limit isn´t the problem here, because the file is loading and playing, only not being showed the graphical part.
I still think this is youre problem - Cakewalk software only supports wav files up to 2GB in size. Bad things happen with larger files.
Hi Sinc: Isn´t the 2Gb size limit a OS limitation, not Cakewalk software limitation? And as I know, that limitation isn´t present in WinXP if you format the disk with NTFS. I can to be wrong, but I believe the problem is only the visualisation of the waveform, since the file can to be played and the meters show activity. Greetings.
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RE: I hear sound, but No Waveform!?
November 28, 05 8:53 AM
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As I said in the Home Studio forum, convert it to an MP3 and try to work with that. You should be able to get it down to 300MB as an MP3.
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