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RE: Norton Ghost 10.0 good for backing up system?
2006/04/20 09:52:13
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ORIGINAL: NYSR
Ghost is not what it once was. I have not been able to get it to do all I would like it to do for a few years.
Pretty much after Binary Research Inc. in New Zealand was bought by the Symantec Assimilative Collective.  Q.
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Bill OConnell
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RE: Norton Ghost 10.0 good for backing up system?
2006/04/20 10:04:37
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I still use Drive Image V7. It has been flawless in making exact images of my system. If Ghost 10 isn't up to par, as people are reporting here, I can't imagine the acquired Drive Image code (in itself) being the problem. Perhaps Ghost 10 is a big kluge of both programs.
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John Page
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RE: Norton Ghost 10.0 good for backing up system?
2006/04/20 10:24:15
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I'd like to second True Image simple to use I switched over after fighting Ghost when I was changing my laptop hard drive from 60 to 100 GB True Image worked flawlessly I now use it for all my drive imaging it's a much better program than Ghost.
Unfortunately Ghost went the way all products do that Symantec purchases downhill. I just switched from Ghost to True Image after fighting Ghost also, the two products are miles apart True Image is a superior product hands down IMHO
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RE: Norton Ghost 10.0 good for backing up system?
2006/05/01 23:22:54
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I've got Ghost 10 and have been doing image and incremental backups of my DAW system, for the last 6 months. I have yet to have a situation where I need to restore from the backup image. From what I'm reading here, the problem with Ghost 10 is that after a restore (onto the same H/W), that you have to reauthorize all S/W. Is this correct? I think I saw another post saying that the workaround to having to reauthorize was to boot from CD before doing the restore. Has anyone had success doing this with Ghost 10?
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RE: Norton Ghost 10.0 good for backing up system?
2006/05/02 02:45:04
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ORIGINAL: John Page
I'd like to second True Image simple to use I switched over after fighting Ghost when I was changing my laptop hard drive from 60 to 100 GB True Image worked flawlessly I now use it for all my drive imaging it's a much better program than Ghost.
Unfortunately Ghost went the way all products do that Symantec purchases downhill.
I just switched from Ghost to True Image after fighting Ghost also, the two products are miles apart True Image is a superior product hands down IMHO
PCWorld magazine did a comparison review and pretty much came to the same conclusion as John. The main criticism they had for Ghost 9 and 10 - which are very similar - is that you're working out of Windows... not DOS, like previous versions. People have had problems with their backups because of issues with Windows being open at the time; running in DOS, there's no fancy footwork that needs to be done. This has been an ongoing argument in the Ghost/Symantec forums. Personally, I've stuck with Ghost 2003 (from Systemworks) because the DOS vs Windows argument makes sense to me -- and, my own experience is that running Ghost in DOS has never failed me in four years (I started with Ghost 2002). True Image also works in a DOS shell - and is half the price of Ghost - so if I were buying today, that's probably what I'd get. JD
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jbraner
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RE: Norton Ghost 10.0 good for backing up system?
2006/05/02 08:13:07
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JonD - I agree with you 100%. bbdude, this DOS issue is why some plugins need to be reauthorised. I think they're looking for particular files to always be in the same place on the hard disk. Images made while you're in DOS can make mirror images of the disk, but when you're imaging from Windows (with open files etc) the image can never be "exact". For a start, you're imaging a moving target! 
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RE: Norton Ghost 10.0 good for backing up system?
2006/05/02 08:17:47
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I have Norton Ghost 10, but I kind of regret it now. I only ever use it thesedays to speed up an initial Windows XP installation (just copy an image straight to the disc). This negates all the inevitable service pack downloads etc.
However, I back-up directories etc. manually now, as Norton Ghost didn't seem to like my DVD writer. It spent a long time writing to 2 DVDs, before deciding to corrupt the final one and hence lose a DVD-R. (you can, I believe, tell Norton to backup to a catalogue of files, say, 4GB each and back those up manually)
Regardless to say, I find it useful for re-installing XP, as it's something of a timesaver.
However, for data files, songs and projects etc. I'd recommend a non-image-centric backup system (or do it manually).
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Jon Bryson
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RE: Norton Ghost 10.0 good for backing up system?
2006/05/02 11:24:07
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Another user of Ghost 2003 here. I create the image on a separate internal hard drive, and (apparently oddly) I can also create a bootable DVD set as well. I have restored numerous times to test it and have had no problems thus far. The only things I have that require authorizations are GPO and Sampletank LE, but have not had to reauthorize either of those after I image.
Jon
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Phoenix
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RE: Norton Ghost 10.0 good for backing up system?
2006/05/03 00:17:56
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I also use Ghost 2003. It preserves my NI authorizations, which Drive Image 7 (and, I hear, recent versions of Ghost) does not. For whatever reason, restoring an image from DI7 makes the NI pugs think the HW ID has changed. I have not heard from anyone using Acronis and NI plugins, or this Casper program mentioned above, so until I find out that any other program will preserve my NI auths I'll stick with Ghost 2003.
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RE: Norton Ghost 10.0 good for backing up system?
2006/05/03 03:10:30
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I've just read a tutorial on GHOST 2003 and don't understand.
The interactive tutorial walks you through a step by step backup and restore process to/from HDD-USB Devise. Looks very simple to use but one thing I don't understand.
When RESTORING an image from an external USB Devise to your HDD you will need to access the GHOST program first. If windows wasn't working then how would you be able to access the GHOST program to restore the image???
After all this is why at least I would be using it...
Ste
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RE: Norton Ghost 10.0 good for backing up system?
2006/05/03 04:21:29
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I'm using Ghost 9.0 and have done a couple of restores during the last weeks. So far, I've never been asked to register installed software after a system restored.
The installed software includes Sonar 3, 4 & 5, Absynth 2 & 3, Vaz Modular 3, DR-008. I was actually expecting to re-register Absynth due to NI's copy protection but that didn't happen. Neither had I to re-register it after upgrading the MB & CPU.
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moffdnb
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RE: Norton Ghost 10.0 good for backing up system?
2006/05/03 05:02:22
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bump!
I've just read a tutorial on GHOST 2003 and don't understand.
The interactive tutorial walks you through a step by step backup and restore process to/from HDD-USB Devise. Looks very simple to use but one thing I don't understand.
When RESTORING an image from an external USB Devise to your HDD you will need to access the GHOST program first. If windows wasn't working then how would you be able to access the GHOST program to restore the image???
After all this is why at least I would be using it...
Ste
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moffdnb
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RE: Norton Ghost 10.0 good for backing up system?
2006/05/03 05:26:33
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've just read a tutorial on GHOST 2003 and don't understand.
The interactive tutorial walks you through a step by step backup and restore process to/from HDD-USB Devise. Looks very simple to use but one thing I don't understand.
When RESTORING an image from an external USB Devise to your HDD you will need to access the GHOST program first. If windows wasn't working then how would you be able to access the GHOST program to restore the image???
After all this is why at least I would be using it...
Ste
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hybrid3
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RE: Norton Ghost 10.0 good for backing up system?
2006/05/03 05:30:40
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I've not used earlier versions but whith Ghost 9.0, you can boot off the CD and make a system restore. What you can't, though, is to make a backup when booting from CD.
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jbraner
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RE: Norton Ghost 10.0 good for backing up system?
2006/05/03 07:17:46
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If windows wasn't working then how would you be able to access the GHOST program to restore the image??? You have to create a DOS disk. That will have Ghost on it. You do this from within Ghost....
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Jon Bryson
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RE: Norton Ghost 10.0 good for backing up system?
2006/05/03 09:48:37
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ORIGINAL: moffdnb
I've just read a tutorial on GHOST 2003 and don't understand.
The interactive tutorial walks you through a step by step backup and restore process to/from HDD-USB Devise. Looks very simple to use but one thing I don't understand.
When RESTORING an image from an external USB Devise to your HDD you will need to access the GHOST program first. If windows wasn't working then how would you be able to access the GHOST program to restore the image???
After all this is why at least I would be using it...
Ste
I can boot off my Ghost 2003 Cd (the one I used to install the program) and do a system restore that way. I believe the manual fails to mention this. What I also do but others seem to be having trouble with is that I also create a DVD set (image to DVD) that is also bootable. I don't know if it's a matter of Ghost having difficulty with different makes/models of DVD burners, but mine's an NEC 2500 if that's helpful at all. Jon
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MArwood
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RE: Norton Ghost 10.0 good for backing up system?
2006/05/03 10:07:37
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I like to make Ghost (10) back up to hard drive with file size set to 4.7 gig so I can burn them to DVD. That way I can erase the hard drive for the next backup, and do it all again.
Max Arwood
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moffdnb
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RE: Norton Ghost 10.0 good for backing up system?
2006/05/11 12:27:38
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I created a boot disk so I can backup my C: but when I try and boot from the disk it goes most of the way but then freezes at the (Blue) DOS screen. No movement from mouse etc.
I sthere compatibility problems with XP SP2?
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Phoenix
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RE: Norton Ghost 10.0 good for backing up system?
2006/05/11 13:18:21
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ORIGINAL: Jon Bryson
I can boot off my Ghost 2003 Cd (the one I used to install the program) and do a system restore that way. I believe the manual fails to mention this. What I also do but others seem to be having trouble with is that I also create a DVD set (image to DVD) that is also bootable. I don't know if it's a matter of Ghost having difficulty with different makes/models of DVD burners, but mine's an NEC 2500 if that's helpful at all.
Jon
I found this out myself through trial and error, and devised the following method for backups to disk which is speedier than writing directly to disk: 1) make the Ghost image to HDD. It naturally splits itself into sections 2GB maximum, so two of them will fit neatly on a DVD. 2) Write the Ghost Image to DVD, adding the Ghost executable and Ghreboot.exe. 3) When restoring or checking the image, boot from the Ghost program CD, noting which drive letter it assigns your CD/DVD drive. When you get to the A: prompt, remove the Ghost program CD and insert the disk you made. Point it back to the CD/DVD drive and run ghost.exe. Ghost will then run and recognize the image as if it had been written directly to DVD. note: do not format disk first. Hope this helps some one...
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MArwood
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RE: Norton Ghost 10.0 good for backing up system?
2006/05/11 16:07:36
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I have listened to people who are complaining about Ghost I have used Ghost 2003 / 9 / 10. I think it is possible that others have not read or did not understand how to properly backup protected files. If you want to be sure things are EXACTLY the same (for copy protected stuff) you must click on the check box called Disable Smart Sector copying. This is under custon backup in version 10. Ghost backs up faster with this enabled, but some software MUST be put exactly back where it came from. This will allow Pace, NI and everything I have to work just fine. I only use this option on C: because D: and E: will back up faster and I don't have protected file on them. It is great to have Ghost running in the back ground and be able to read email or whatever while you are backing up. Then again, Ghost does not tax a X2 4800 very much. To Phoenix, ghost will allow you to set the size of the files I usually set mine to 4500. That way the DVD is almost full. Max Arwood edit:Size is 4400 not 4500
post edited by MArwood - 2006/05/17 18:40:17
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