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Re: Turning snap on/off in PRV, only possible with mouse click - Cakewalk says: "As intend
2014/05/05 22:34:13
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Hi Steve...
I play and edit... Using both tools a lot... It's a pain for sure, but please also know that the vast differences between 4.0.2 and X3e will make everything a bit tough... Especially as you enter the X-anything realm as so much was changed... Keyboard shortcuts are more powerful now, but many of them have been changed/moved/removed/added... and the difference of Layers really has been (ongoing) a challenge... Some things are better, some need more work, but overall I am far happier with X3e than 4.0.2... Now if you compare it to 8.5.3, that's another story... But even there. I have 8.5.3 still on my machine, but I only open it when I'm assisting a client who still uses it... I don't want to go back...
That said, I still have many issues with the X generation... But I love the ProChannel and it's plugins so much that it keeps me X3e! ;-)
Keni
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Re: Turning snap on/off in PRV, only possible with mouse click - Cakewalk says: "As intend
2014/05/05 22:35:02
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I am so glad you did this post. My snap stop working and I didn't know why. I read through your issue and when I get home I will have to check this out.
Thanks!
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Re: Turning snap on/off in PRV, only possible with mouse click - Cakewalk says: "As intend
2014/05/05 22:48:21
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Keni
Hi Steve...
I play and edit... Using both tools a lot... It's a pain for sure, but please also know that the vast differences between 4.0.2 and X3e will make everything a bit tough... Keni
Hi Keni, I got a bit more time in over the last hour and I'm gonna be ok with the snap options and I'm liking the multi dock so I'm over the hump of the leaning curve to get from 4.0.2 to X3. Thanks!
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Re: Turning snap on/off in PRV, only possible with mouse click - Cakewalk says: "As intend
2014/05/06 12:06:59
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Keni
Hi Steve...
I play and edit... Using both tools a lot... It's a pain for sure, but please also know that the vast differences between 4.0.2 and X3e will make everything a bit tough... Keni
Hi Keni,
I got a bit more time in over the last hour and I'm gonna be ok with the snap options and I'm liking the multi dock
so I'm over the hump of the leaning curve to get from 4.0.2 to X3.
Thanks!
Hi Steve... I'm glad you're feeling comfortable... I don't know how much audio editing you've worked with in X3e yet though... the changes there are quite a few... Best of luck... Keni
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Re: Turning snap on/off in PRV, only possible with mouse click - Cakewalk says: "As intend
2014/05/06 17:46:00
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Hey Keni,
Yea... little to no audio editing at this point. Just the occasional slice and drag copy.
I'll also be keeping my 4.0.2 partition so I can boot to it any time I need it.
Thanks for the talk. It's nice to run into you again.
Steve
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Re: Turning snap on/off in PRV, only possible with mouse click - Cakewalk says: "As intend
2014/05/06 18:12:50
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Steve_Karl
Hey Keni,
Yea... little to no audio editing at this point. Just the occasional slice and drag copy.
I'll also be keeping my 4.0.2 partition so I can boot to it any time I need it.
Thanks for the talk. It's nice to run into you again.
Steve
Same here Steve... Nice running into you again here in such a fine place! ;-) Audio editing is pretty normal in the track, but using Lanes are very different than Layers and X3e has even more differences to Lane editing... Recording as well due to the new Comp Mode... It's mostly pretty cool... It has some rough spots but can be quite fluent most of the time after you get it down... My biggest complaints other than the little snap pain are the multiple issues related to zoom... If you have hidden tracks or folders zoom behaves incorrectly (Z+click-drag) and zoom parameters for zooming Lanes are incredibly difficult for me to work with, so I spend far too much time using multiple commands in multiple places to get to a zoom I can work with... And with Lanes, I can't get there at all... They are severely limited regarding Zoom.... But these are all topics for a different thread... Least it be said, that the missing toggle for PRV-Snap is along the same lines of time waster/fidgety operation... So it's a 3 steps forward and 2 steps back with X... ...and regardless, it's still powerful and fun! Keni
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Re: Turning snap on/off in PRV, only possible with mouse click - Cakewalk says: "As intend
2014/05/08 02:40:12
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Keni
And not having a shortcut to enable/disable PRV snap is a major fly in the ointment regardless of whether it shares the global on/off or has it's own...
There seems to be a misunderstanding about how this thread got re-awakened. It wasn't about toggling PRV snap on/off. That was fixed in one of the patches - I don't recall which, but it was quite a while back. PRV snap should again toggle on/off along with the global snap status. Are you still having trouble?
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Re: Turning snap on/off in PRV, only possible with mouse click - Cakewalk says: "As intend
2014/05/08 02:56:23
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I'm not.
"N" is toggling all snap (global and PRV) on and off perfectly in the X3d demo version.
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Re: Turning snap on/off in PRV, only possible with mouse click - Cakewalk says: "As intend
2014/05/08 07:47:19
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Works here also.
I like that when you do use n to toggle snap on/off in the PRV, up at the right, it turns like a pale blue to let you know if it's on/off.
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Re: Turning snap on/off in PRV, only possible with mouse click - Cakewalk says: "As intend
2014/05/08 17:21:32
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brundlefly
Keni
And not having a shortcut to enable/disable PRV snap is a major fly in the ointment regardless of whether it shares the global on/off or has it's own...
There seems to be a misunderstanding about how this thread got re-awakened. It wasn't about toggling PRV snap on/off. That was fixed in one of the patches - I don't recall which, but it was quite a while back. PRV snap should again toggle on/off along with the global snap status. Are you still having trouble?
No... No misunderstanding... PRV Snap does not toggle with the global shortcut and must be toggled with the mouse... It has not been fixed as far as my system knows... Maybe it works if you have smart grid on... But I can't work with it's selections... I'll see if I can test this issue for such though... Keni I just tried and even with smart grid enabled, PRV Snap does not toggle with N...
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Re: Turning snap on/off in PRV, only possible with mouse click - Cakewalk says: "As intend
2014/05/08 17:24:53
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Grem
Works here also.
I like that when you do use n to toggle snap on/off in the PRV, up at the right, it turns like a pale blue to let you know if it's on/off.
Not seeing that here... It remains the solid blue of ON...
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Re: Turning snap on/off in PRV, only possible with mouse click - Cakewalk says: "As intend
2014/05/08 17:29:08
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I was just thinking...
I do not float or run PRV in the multidock... Instead I chose to run in MSI (forgive me if I'm using the wrong acronym - I use the mode that is of days gone by where PRV replaces the Track View...)
Maybe this is related? I'm gonna go try changing that... I hope I can remember how to get to what I like as the acronym seems to have disappeared from where I remember it to be?
Keni
Just tried it and no... N is still only changing the global, not the PRV snap...
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Re: Turning snap on/off in PRV, only possible with mouse click - Cakewalk says: "As intend
2014/05/09 02:39:53
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I don't know Keni, I just switched my PRV to MDI mode (undocked and unfloated), and PRV snap is still disabling with N. But it could have something to do with what version that project originated in, and what state the PRV was in when first opened.
Inn any case, you should keep experimenting with preferences and modes and new projects started from the X3 default Normal template, and see if you figure out what's different in you environment.
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Re: Turning snap on/off in PRV, only possible with mouse click - Cakewalk says: "As intend
2014/05/09 15:43:40
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I'm confused. I just called up a MIDI track, and "N" turned snap on and off. When I turned it on in the PRV and went back to Track view, it was still on and audio clips could be quantized. When I turned it off in Track View, it turned off in the PRV. If I had different snap amounts enabled in the Control Bar and in the PRV, the settings remained as set when turning snap on and off with the "N" key (or using the Snap on/off button in the toolbar).
I am not experiencing Snap persisting in the PRV after turning off Snap. I can even have the Track View and PRV open at the same time, and turn snap on or off to turn it on or off in both tracks simultaneously. I'm using X3e, you're using X3d. Think that could be the difference?
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Re: Turning snap on/off in PRV, only possible with mouse click - Cakewalk says: "As intend
2014/05/09 15:49:35
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I just noticed the following in the change list for X3e. It seems like quite a bit of attention was paid to snap fixes. Maybe being on X3e is why snap is working as (I think) you expect it to work? - Resolved an issue where Snap By in PRV Specific Snap would not work if Snap to MIDI events is also enabled
- Resolved an issue where Snap To Clips and MIDI Landmarks was not properly snapping to visible clips after scrolling in the Track View
- PRV Grid Resolution > Follow Snap Settings is now more conscious of PRV Specific Snap override settings
- If PRV Specific Snap is enabled, the PRV Specific Snap resolution will set the Grid Resolution (this is regardless of if Global Snap is on or off)
- If PRV Specific Snap is disabled, the Global Snap resolution will determine the Grid Resolution
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Re: Turning snap on/off in PRV, only possible with mouse click - Cakewalk says: "As intend
2014/05/09 16:22:53
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Could we have the title indicate this is fixed?
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Re: Turning snap on/off in PRV, only possible with mouse click - Cakewalk says: "As intend
2014/05/09 17:09:42
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John
Could we have the title indicate this is fixed?
Sure. If people usingX3e can't replicate my results, I guess we'll need to investigate further. But it's been bulletproof at this end.
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Re: Turning snap on/off in PRV, only possible with mouse click - Cakewalk says: "As intend
2014/05/09 17:44:11
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Keni's signature says X3c, but I assumed he's patched to X3e and his sig is just out of date.
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